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V-Men posted:Estelle, Joshua, Klaudia, and Agate. Though I'm somewhere in the mid to high-80s for level. Yeah, definitely underleveled. Go to the previous Liber Ark Tunnels bit, and find the first white squid-looking enemy you can, because they're the ones shining poms spawn with. One or two shining pom fights will probably be enough to make the boss way easier. EDIT: I did the fight at level 92-93, I think, and didn't have too much bother with it.
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Yeah, I did it at 93 and it was okay once I got rid of the adds. Make sure Kloe and Agate have 200CP going in, and abuse Clock Up EX/Down.
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Loewe is also still weak to Kampfer, like the first game. Tack on Clock Down with that and the fight becomes much easier.
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Erpy posted:The songs you're looking for are: Thanks a lot. Okay, I just (rather unexpectedly) finished SC Chapter 8. I did not finish the Tratt Plains "Abyss Worm" monster sidequest, because that fight appears to be literally loving impossible. There are like 8 of the goddamn fuckers and they spam thousand-damage attacks. Oh, and of course, at that point I'm down two ZPMs. The only possible way I could see to beat them is if Kloe was in the party, and that's not possible. It is a goddamn ridiculous fight. Any ideas? I at least have thirteen chapters of Gambler Jack. I hope that's all of them up until that point. I found them all on my own as well, except for the second one, which cheated by hiding in the list of casino prizes. Also, story-spoilers for SC, I do want to complain: Oroborous is not a secret criminal organization. It's a goddamn loving country with all the manpower and resources needed to wage open warfare on other countries. They already have mentioned the Thirteen Factories, which doesn't even seem the half of it. How the hell can something on that scale exist and be a secret? The amount of resources it would take to build the Glorious is huge. Plus their scout ships and dozens and dozens of other robots, and their ground troop Jagers.
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The abyss worms only use earth shaker if they're injured, so you need to burn them down one at a time.
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Nov 30, 2015 05:39
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Stabbey_the_Clown posted:Thanks a lot. the secret to this fight is that they only spam their aoe when damaged so you can take them out one by one to avoid it
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Nov 30, 2015 05:43
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I'm about to start Second Chapter. Is it worth stressing out about finding hidden BP and poo poo again? And if so is there any kind of spoiler-free "hey, there's a really easy to miss mission here" things?
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The Doomhammer posted:The abyss worms only uses earth shaker if they're injured, so you need to burn them down one at a time. Oh son-of-a... Out of curiosity, what's max BP again? Because missing out on that quest, at the start of Chapter 9, I have 361 BP (I'm not using a guide, either). ...and I have a save at Bose Market, and in theory I could walk all the way back around... 
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Nov 30, 2015 06:03
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ImpAtom posted:I'm about to start Second Chapter. Is it worth stressing out about finding hidden BP and poo poo again? And if so is there any kind of spoiler-free "hey, there's a really easy to miss mission here" things?
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Stabbey_the_Clown posted:Oh son-of-a... Max is 382, A-Rank is 380. Also Agate/Joshua + Tomatrio Sandwiches trivalizes the Abyss Worms. Doubly so if you layer on Clock Up EX and poo poo.
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Nov 30, 2015 06:07
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Abyss Worms (and other enemies with clever tricks) are why I never remove Information quartz equivalents.
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Kyrosiris posted:Max is 382, A-Rank is 380. I just tried that fight again loading a save from when I was nearby. Even picking at them one at a time it was painful, even using Clock Down on them. Once I got them down to just three, AT delay moves worked to pretty much shut down the one getting hit. It was 5 BP, which would have gotten my to 366. So based on a completely unfounded random guess that the final quest will give me 10 BP, I'm probably short anyway. EDIT: If there's no BP in the finale, then I'm obviously way short on what I would have needed. But I wanted to play this completely blind, so missing out is part of that trade-off. Honestly I hate Agate's "improved" Wild Rage craft, It's only useful if he is on full health which is rare (I'm not going to memorize his max HP and calculate if it's above 70% or not each time). His FC Wild Rage was excellent, it's pretty easy to see if he can survive a 30% hit to his health. The new version sucks balls. Stabbey_the_Clown fucked around with this message at 07:51 on Nov 30, 2015 |
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Stabbey_the_Clown posted:I just tried that fight again loading a save from when I was nearby. Even picking at them one at a time it was painful, even using Clock Down on them. Once I got them down to just three, AT delay moves worked to pretty much shut down the one getting hit. It was 5 BP, which would have gotten my to 366. So based on a completely unfounded random guess that the final quest will give me 10 BP, I'm probably short anyway. quote:Honestly I hate Agate's "improved" Wild Rage craft, It's only useful if he is on full health which is rare (I'm not going to memorize his max HP and calculate if it's above 70% or not each time). His FC Wild Rage was excellent, the new version suck balls. Agreed. 25% HP for 50 CP was great, but 75% HP for 150 CP is an awful deal even if you can micromanage his HP.
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I actually kind of liked the high risk/high reward of Wild Rage 2. Agate's kind of meant to be a craft spammer and 50 CP gave you 3 crafts at most before you had to spend another turn recharging. I never crunched the numbers while using him, I simply made sure not to use it unless his life bar was full or nearly full and since most of my characters have water quartz equipped, getting him out of the critical zone didn't take too much effort. It WAS ridiculously broken and abuse-prone though, so I can see why they dialed the craft down to 60 CP for 30% HP in Zero.
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Some Numbers posted:Agreed. 25% HP for 50 CP was great, but 75% HP for 150 CP is an awful deal even if you can micromanage his HP. Really? I find it super useful since, in a tight situation, you can just bust out final break from absolutely nowhere for a cool 2k extra damage on a whole lot of stuff. It is not that useful for doing regular old crafts though, I'll admit. But I've never really had CP problems with Agate anyway, he gets hit a lot and has AoEs so he racks it up pretty quickly so that I almost never have to regularly attack with him.
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SC Bracer posted:the secret to this fight is that they only spam their aoe when damaged so you can take them out one by one to avoid it Yeah, Evil Eye was pretty drat useful here. As well as the item that auto-increases CP so you can keep spamming it.
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Can Gambler Jack volume 15 be found in Chapter 8, or in Chapter 9?
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Amppelix posted:Really? I find it super useful since, in a tight situation, you can just bust out final break from absolutely nowhere for a cool 2k extra damage on a whole lot of stuff. It is not that useful for doing regular old crafts though, I'll admit. But I've never really had CP problems with Agate anyway, he gets hit a lot and has AoEs so he racks it up pretty quickly so that I almost never have to regularly attack with him. Being able to instantly use an S-Craft is cool, yes, but FC Wild Rage could also do that and was much less likely to accidentally kill him. Maybe I'm too tentative, but I preferred to play it safe and didn't use Wild Rage 2 very much at all.
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Stabbey_the_Clown posted:Can Gambler Jack volume 15 be found in Chapter 8, or in Chapter 9? My limited research indicates that there are only 14 volumes and you need to turn them in before storming the castle.
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Some Numbers posted:My limited research indicates that there are only 14 volumes and you need to turn them in before storming the castle.  Oh right, it is only 14. Got them all, then. Maybe I should have read them all after I found the 14th volume. I was thinking of the Carnalia precendent which said "Finale" instead of Chapter X.
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Speaking of the Carnelia, isn't the full set in the library in one of the embassies? I remember going  at that.By the way, there are absolutely no sidequests, missable collectibles* (that I'm aware of) or anything in chapter 9. Only plot, plot and more plot. *technically speaking you turn in the Gambler Jack reward for an ultimate weapon in ch 9. I don't think it counts as belonging to ch 9.
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Yeah, the Carnelia series is in the Erebonian Embassy. Baral obviously never had access to that place.
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Omobono posted:Speaking of the Carnelia, isn't the full set in the library in one of the embassies? I remember going There kinda is one actually, related to the Gambler Jack reward. When you get to the residential area and find the Data Crystal Z, you can backtrack to the first house and use the "Read Crystal" option on the computer to get a second piece of Zemurian Ore. If you turn in the data crystal to Russell before doing that you can no longer get the second piece.
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Ojetor posted:There kinda is one actually, related to the Gambler Jack reward. Huh. Never would have guessed you could get a second one. That could have really helped with Estelle's terrible damage output late game.
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Ojetor posted:There kinda is one actually, related to the Gambler Jack reward. Oh, I thought that one was not missable.
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Not really gospel or anything, but...quote:Until we announce an official date, yes, anything you read online is placeholder. This is on the topic of CS's release date, if you couldn't tell. From the Marvelous forums. So it's pretty close to certain that it's either the 15th or the 22nd.
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Christ, that's ridiculously soon after SC. They probably could've afforded to wait another couple of months so the Fallout 4 hype dies down.
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Ojetor posted:There kinda is one actually, related to the Gambler Jack reward. Whoops. That was dumb of me. I'm glad I keep frequent saves. Guess I have to go replay that bit again. At least I didn't get too much farther. Also speaking of that area of Chapter 9 - Even though I was basically guessing randomly, I managed to get Kloe's Gospel original on my first attempt. Well, I guess it wasn't totally random, because I remembered Kloe had an ancestor here, and so she was the best candidate, and Celeste was the most female-sounding first name, and Auslese was the obvious last name, but getting the middle initial right was just blind luck. In any case, people probably want Kloe in your party for the first part of Chapter 9 for a minor bit of special dialogue. Omobono posted:Oh, I thought that one was not missable. I checked, it is. Stabbey_the_Clown fucked around with this message at 01:01 on Dec 1, 2015 |
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I am filled with such feels after beating this. I haven't been this satisfied in a game since Chrono Trigger.
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What's the name of the music in the Chapter 9 tunnels dungeon? (Not really sure that even needed the tags, but why not.) Man in Chapter 9, the game is really just dumping last-minute party members on you. It kinda sucks not being able to use them all. Sure, I can always save before the bosses and run all the way back with new guys, but that seems like it might be too tedious to do. Incidentally, I discovered that there's an XP cap of 9999 on battles when I wiped out an entire field of Shining Poms. Everyone gained 6-7 levels each.
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Stabbey_the_Clown posted:What's the name of the music in the Chapter 9 tunnels dungeon? (Not really sure that even needed the tags, but why not.) Aiming For That Future. quote:Man in Chapter 9, the game is really just dumping last-minute party members on you. It kinda sucks not being able to use them all. Sure, I can always save before the bosses and run all the way back with new guys, but that seems like it might be too tedious to do. There's fast travel through the whole area, though, and unless I'm forgetting somebody there should be just enough party members for you to bring a different pair to each boss.
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Excellent. I'm using Audacity to make slightly extended versions of some music from the ogg files, and knowing the names is a big help for making a properly tagged file. quote:There's fast travel through the whole area, though, and unless I'm forgetting somebody there should be just enough party members for you to bring a different pair to each boss. Ah, good. I suspected there might be something like that. Must be that thing in the first room.
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So today, I found myself looking back into the history of Working Designs today, and the first game I tried of theirs was this little gem: If you have not played it, you should play it. If you are on the fence about playing it, know that the dubbing is hilariously 90s Saturday Morning Cartoon and strap in for a really fun ride which has aged extremely well.
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Slur posted:which has aged extremely well. Or it would have, had WD not hosed with the difficulty to the point of it being nearly impossible soon after starting.
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I just played through TitS FC. Good game. I'll definitely be picking up the second one after that ending. I've never played a jrpg before outside a few hours with ff7 when I was young so I don't know if I was just missing something about the combat in this game. It seemed like if you weren't using arts or crafts you might as well not attack at all. It felt like until Zane came into the picture that attacking normally did little since both the damage was meh and the chance to miss was pretty high even with dex bonus orbs. Also I've never figured out how the black elements damage was based on either. It wasn't elemental, so was it just straight arts attack strength, or was there a bit of other stats? Did they bypass some resistances other than elemental? I felt the moment I discovered hell gate and white ghennia it was pretty much all I used. Also there is a massive shortage of that black sphith from creatures. Gotta have me that EP Cut 3 just for the elements. Also Chaos Brand was OP. Is it true that Carpe Fulgur had a hand in translating SC, I swear i read about it somewhere but I can't remember or if I'm just imagining it? I like those guys ever since Recettear.
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yeah, the default attack option is bad. it's literally just there as a fallback when you have nothing else available time magic uses the same stat as the rest of the magic, but no enemies resist or are weak to it the translation was a joint project between carpe fulgur and xseed, to put it simply
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Just beat FC, with max BP!  Gonna wait a while before getting SC.
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As long as you regularly upgrade your weapons, you should generally be doing reasonable damage on normal difficulty. Yes, arts usually do more damage, but arts cost EP and attacks are free. Of course, Schera, Kloe, and Tita are pretty bad damage-dealers, and some enemies are resistant to physicals. Time magic's benefit is that nothing resists it, but the other side of the coin is that nothing takes extra damage from it either.
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i think this got posted in the old thread before sc came out, but some guy translated the prologue to 3rd. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzk8LWJOk_8 Kevin's boss is the main character from the carnelia books in FC, that's cool as heck
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