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An ISIS attack in the US is probably among the worst things that can conceivably happen right now and I'm deathly afraid of what would result, which is probably why I'm emotionally inclined to be skeptical of reports calling it Islamic terror.
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RusteJuxx posted:What could Obama do, even in a legally grey area way, to in someway address gun control? Is there anything he can do via executive order that might help even a little? Drone strike the NRA, extraordinary rendition for half of K street, a series of "accidents" for the Kochs and their friends. That's about it. Sandy Hook was the watershed moment here, once society decided it was more ok with 20 dead kindergarteners than with any sort of gun control the debate was over Fried Chicken fucked around with this message at 23:12 on Dec 2, 2015 |
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RusteJuxx posted:What could Obama do, even in a legally grey area way, to in someway address gun control? Is there anything he can do via executive order that might help even a little? It would require he use the military to execute his will, because red states are controlled by forces that are driving us towards civil war on the issue.
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RusteJuxx posted:What could Obama do, even in a legally grey area way, to in someway address gun control? Is there anything he can do via executive order that might help even a little? Hypothetically I think he could nationalize all guns stores and manufacturers and shut them down but lol at that ever happening.
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Dec 2, 2015 23:10
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The San Bernadino police chief says he doesn't know if this was an act of "traditional terrorism." It could be "domestic terrorism." As we all know, if it's a legitimate form of terrorism, etc etc
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Dec 2, 2015 23:11
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zoux posted:An ISIS attack in the US is probably among the worst things that can conceivably happen right now and I'm deathly afraid of what would result, which is probably why I'm emotionally inclined to be skeptical of reports calling it Islamic terror. Where are you seeing this? All I've seen has been 1-3 white males in "military-style" gear, which doesn't sound like an ISIS attack.
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it would be great if ISIS attacked the us because then finally republicans would be in favor of background checks and close the straw purchase loophole
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What gun control legislation are you guys even thinking about? This happened in California, the state with the toughest gun laws. What else would be effective, and more than just a gesture to score points?
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Popular Thug Drink posted:it would be great if ISIS attacked the us to NSA: Get him boys!
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Luigi Thirty posted:The San Bernadino police chief says he doesn't know if this was an act of "traditional terrorism." It could be "domestic terrorism." As we all know, if it's a legitimate form of terrorism, etc etc It's true, we can't be sure if the Irish are behind this, best to hedge our bets
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Popular Thug Drink posted:it would be great if ISIS attacked the us because then finally republicans would be in favor of background checks and close the straw purchase loophole
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Lotka Volterra posted:Where are you seeing this? All I've seen has been 1-3 white males in "military-style" gear, which doesn't sound like an ISIS attack. Why, this very thread my friend. But it's super not them.
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BRAKE FOR MOOSE posted:What gun control legislation are you guys even thinking about? This happened in California, the state with the toughest gun laws. What else would be effective, and more than just a gesture to score points? A way for you not to drive over 200 miles and pick them up very legally. Or gun shows.
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BRAKE FOR MOOSE posted:What gun control legislation are you guys even thinking about? This happened in California, the state with the toughest gun laws. What else would be effective, and more than just a gesture to score points? Look up.
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BRAKE FOR MOOSE posted:What gun control legislation are you guys even thinking about? This happened in California, the state with the toughest gun laws. What else would be effective, and more than just a gesture to score points? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSLlZh9yelk
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Lotka Volterra posted:Where are you seeing this? All I've seen has been 1-3 white males in "military-style" gear, which doesn't sound like an ISIS attack. It's not really anywhere except a random hearsay eyewitness report of a middle eastern man with a long beard which is most likely not true. It just triggered "what if" scenarios.
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BRAKE FOR MOOSE posted:What gun control legislation are you guys even thinking about? This happened in California, the state with the toughest gun laws. What else would be effective, and more than just a gesture to score points? Take them away, and so as to not violate the constitution put them all int the CMP program as the only way you can get a gun going forward.
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BRAKE FOR MOOSE posted:What gun control legislation are you guys even thinking about? This happened in California, the state with the toughest gun laws. What else would be effective, and more than just a gesture to score points? The north hollywood shootout was also in CA. It's easy as poo poo to get guns into CA when AZ is right loving next door dipshit. e: especially if your white since none of the AZ -> CA stops every have ever stopped me or my family after going to the river for almost 30 years A Winner is Jew fucked around with this message at 23:19 on Dec 2, 2015 |
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At this point it is all speculation until we learn more about the group that was hit or catch the shooter(s) Go get a beer folks
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RusteJuxx posted:What could Obama do, even in a legally grey area way, to in someway address gun control? Is there anything he can do via executive order that might help even a little? Maybe this time he can try reverse psychology and issue an executive order to suspend all Federal gun control and permit civilians to buy military arms at cost. It'd put the Republicans in a position where they'd have to sue to stop him.
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Luigi Thirty posted:The San Bernadino police chief says he doesn't know if this was an act of "traditional terrorism." It could be "domestic terrorism." As we all know, if it's a legitimate form of terrorism, etc etc
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Raskolnikov38 posted:Hypothetically I think he could nationalize all guns stores and manufacturers and shut them down but lol at that ever happening. Hypothetically, Obama could turn into the four-armed Hindu god Vishnu and use his newfound omnipotence to reverse McDonald v. City of Chicago and make the words "A well-regulated militia" appear in 36-pt bold font in the original copy of the constitution but lol at that ever happening
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Witness on CBS News just said there were three men in all black with bulletproof vests and assault rifles. She saw them open the door to the conference room and open fire.
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the shadow toker posted:Hypothetically, Obama could turn into four-armed Hindu god Vishnu and use his newfound omnipotence to reverse McDonald v. City of Chicago and make the words "A well-regulated" militia appear in 36-pt bold text in the original copy of the constitution but lol at that every happening Yeah but there's already a constitutional path for nationalization, is Vishnu in the constitution? checkmate hinduailres
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Wraith of J.O.I. posted:Witness on CBS News just said there were three men in all black with bulletproof vests and assault rifles. She saw them open the door to the conference room and open fire. She just said they looked white, but was kind of far away
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BRAKE FOR MOOSE posted:What gun control legislation are you guys even thinking about? This happened in California, the state with the toughest gun laws. What else would be effective, and more than just a gesture to score points? Banning the manufacture and sale of guns in the United States of America.
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zoux posted:Why, this very thread my friend. But it's super not them. Oh, one unconfirmed rumor in this thread, okay
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I wish California's gun laws were as strict as out of state gun nuts think they are.
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Lotka Volterra posted:Oh, one unconfirmed rumor in this thread, okay fox news is on the case
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D&D posters have been so mentally scarred and disaffected by past incidents that they can't help but be concerned about the worst possible situation. We're Wounded Worriers, you could say.
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BRAKE FOR MOOSE posted:What gun control legislation are you guys even thinking about? This happened in California, the state with the toughest gun laws. What else would be effective, and more than just a gesture to score points? Melting all the guns in the country and turning them into sweet cream butter.
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Lotka Volterra posted:Oh, one unconfirmed rumor in this thread, okay Yeah I was just broadly talking about why I was snapping on people speculating if it was ISIS.
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zoux posted:An ISIS attack in the US is probably among the worst things that can conceivably happen right now and I'm deathly afraid of what would result, which is probably why I'm emotionally inclined to be skeptical of reports calling it Islamic terror. I dont blame you at all and I agree. It will be a horrifying shitshow if these dudes end up being ISIS nuts. who knows who it could be. untill they are caught or more likely killed we probably wont know. what makes me think its not your average mass shooter, is the number of people and the fact that the made a so far clean break. most american mass shooters just kill until the cops show up then top themselves. Dapper_Swindler fucked around with this message at 23:25 on Dec 2, 2015 |
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Raskolnikov38 posted:Yeah but there's already a constitutional path for nationalization, is Vishnu in the constitution? checkmate hinduailres Can Vishnu produce a birth certificate?
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BonoMan posted:It's not really anywhere except a random hearsay eyewitness report of a middle eastern man with a long beard which is most likely not true. It just triggered "what if" scenarios.
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OB_Juan posted:Can Vishnu produce a birth certificate? he probably has several.lol
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BRAKE FOR MOOSE posted:What gun control legislation are you guys even thinking about? This happened in California, the state with the toughest gun laws. What else would be effective, and more than just a gesture to score points? http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/11/12/us/gun-traffickers-smuggling-state-gun-laws.html?_r=0 quote:Law enforcement officials express frequent frustration that they are not able to track every gun that crosses state lines, which means the estimates here are conservative. When the police do recover a gun tied to criminal activity, typically after an arrest, they can trace the gun to where it was last sold through a federally licensed dealer.
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Raskolnikov38 posted:Yeah but there's already a constitutional path for nationalization, is Vishnu in the constitution? checkmate hinduailres As a staunch textualist, I find that the right to bear four arms is incorporated by the due process clause of the 14th amendment. Signed, Antonin "Constructionist in the streets, functionalist in the sheets" Scalia, Esq.
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quote:We have no information at this point to indicated that this is terrorism … in the traditional sense”, he says. But since investigations “can turn into a potential federal prosecution type thing,” he says the county asked for federal assistance immediately. What is the traditional sense?
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Dapper_Swindler posted:I dont blame you at all and I agree. It will be a horrifying shitshow if these dudes end up being ISIS nuts. who knows who it could be. untill they are caught or more likely killed we probably wont know. It's a loving nightmare scenario. Like man, I've got a horrible feeling that an attack is inevitable and we're just counting down the days before we shut out the refugees and throw all our Muslims (and probably sihks) into internment camps. It loving sucks being too young to get booze.
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