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Henchman of Santa posted:Holy poo poo, there's a Napalm Death/Melvins/Melt-Banana tour this spring. Holy poo poo. Edit: dates. quote:March 26 Phoenix, AZ The Marquee Dick Boat fucked around with this message at 19:26 on Dec 1, 2015 |
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They're officially out there, but I'm phone posting. I'll be hitting up Metro in Chicago on April 22.
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A few pages late to the party, but thanks to everyone who recommended Visigoth, picked theeir album up with weekend and it's very killed. Just what I wanted. On a similar but older theme, I also got Twisted Tower Dire's Crest of the Martyrs. I'm not sure if they've done anything good lately, but it's another good slab of American classic metal.
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Henchman of Santa posted:Holy poo poo, there's a Napalm Death/Melvins/Melt-Banana tour this spring. Buddy of mine mentioned this at work but left Melt-Banana out. This just got a shitload more interesting.
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Gamma Nerd posted:if you dig into the genre you'll find a few gems and a lot of things that aren't worth keeping.
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I missed Napalm Death the last time they came to Vancouver, guess I gotta go to this one even though I'm not a big fan of The Melvins; I mean, I like some of their songs, but don't follow them religiously. And I hadn't heard of Melt-Banana before, the music is OK but holy poo poo that singer is terrible. It's an interesting line-up to say the least.
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Fenrir posted:This is true of literally every genre of music ever. Well, yeah, but metal fans tend to think of metal as a subculture rather than just a musical genre, so there's a lot of entrenched loyalty there.
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Fenrir posted:This is true of literally every genre of music ever. Yes, but some have better ratios of good:bad than others. Obviously a lot of it's a matter of taste--some genre conventions are just easier on the ears for some people than others (which is part of why I like metal so much in general).
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Yeah, for example, it's hard to make bad goregrind because sounding like absolute sloppy poo poo is most of the appeal of that genre
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Crazy Larry posted:It would probably help if there were more than 5 bands that realized that 2005 was 10 years ago and they can try writing something new now. By this you mean... power metallers should stop trying to be the followup to Nightwish's last album with Tarja? Although TBF that was/is probably the peak of operatic lady vocal metal. Or should they try writing something besides lyrics inspired by LOTR?
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Just put the power back to power metal, tia I mean sure I enjoy the occasional pompous cheesecake, but I do wish more bands quit the orchestras and keyboard wankery and went back to doing more straightforward energetic poo poo like this
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DeusExMachinima posted:By this you mean... power metallers should stop trying to be the followup to Nightwish's last album with Tarja? Although TBF that was/is probably the peak of operatic lady vocal metal. Or should they try writing something besides lyrics inspired by LOTR? I don't really worry about the whole operatic female vocalist side of the genre because it's just sort of a guilty pleasure that I'll consume voraciously for a week and then forget about entirely. It's more the whole Rhapsody worship, check out our awesome epic fantasy concept album complete with Nordick posted:I mean sure I enjoy the occasional pompous cheesecake, but I do wish more bands quit the orchestras and keyboard wankery A lot of it isn't even really bad, it's just that I've heard it 500 times already and it just blurs together after a while.
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Nordick posted:Just put the power back to power metal, tia
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Vulture Culture posted:Jesus, I had no idea how much Gamma Ray was aping Blind Guardian during their late-nineties era. (I was mostly familiar with their Motorhead/Priest worship early nineties stuff.)
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I still maintain that Iron Savior is the better version of Gamma Ray, with the caveat that I've not heard anything of theirs post-Unification. But just listen to this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZ6uGxHnsKM
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Nordick posted:Just put the power back to power metal, tia Crazy Larry posted:A lot of it isn't even really bad, it's just that I've heard it 500 times already and it just blurs together after a while. Yeah, same. It does blur and it really sounds like trying to confuse people with so much poo poo at once to make them think it must be good. Hell even the older Nightwish stuff was pretty simple with the keyboards or maybe a solo violin or something doing what they use 300 cellos for nowadays. I guess they're technically symphonic metal and have been for over a decade now but some power metal keeps trying to be that other subgenre for some reason. Fortunately guys like Sabaton and Gamma Ray keeping doing their thing.
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Speaking of power metal, what do people like about Mathias Blad from Falconer? He sounds like the power metal Greg Graffin.
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kajeto posted:I missed Napalm Death the last time they came to Vancouver, guess I gotta go to this one even though I'm not a big fan of The Melvins; I mean, I like some of their songs, but don't follow them religiously. Melt Banana loving rule live. Out of everyone at MDF last year, their set was the most fun.
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The Euro stuff can be hit or miss, but old American power metal totally rips.
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Vulture Culture posted:Speaking of power metal, what do people like about Mathias Blad from Falconer? He sounds like the power metal Greg Graffin. Ehhhh he's no less classically trained than Tarja. Maybe male operatic vocalists just aren't your cup of tea? I got to see Falconer live and he's great out of the studio too. Either way it could be worse. He could be power metal Fat Mike. 
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DeusExMachinima posted:Ehhhh he's no less classically trained than Tarja. Maybe male operatic vocalists just aren't your cup of tea? I got to see Falconer live and he's great out of the studio too.
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Hm... they had a replacement (terrible) vocalist in the middle of their career until they got Blad back, you might've heard some of his songs. I forget his name. Check out the songs from Black Moon Rising for what they're like most recently. An older song with Blad on it that's heavy and loud would be Heresy in Disguise from their first album.
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DeusExMachinima posted:Hm... they had a replacement (terrible) vocalist in the middle of their career until they got Blad back, you might've heard some of his songs. I forget his name. Check out the songs from Black Moon Rising for what they're like most recently. An older song with Blad on it that's heavy and loud would be Heresy in Disguise from their first album.
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MrBling posted:I still maintain that Iron Savior is the better version of Gamma Ray, with the caveat that I've not heard anything of theirs post-Unification. They're still very good. The vocals got angrier/more powerful sounding I think.
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Cryptopsy - The Book of Suffering - Tome 1 rules
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DeusExMachinima posted:Hm... they had a replacement (terrible) vocalist in the middle of their career until they got Blad back, you might've heard some of his songs. I forget his name. Check out the songs from Black Moon Rising for what they're like most recently. An older song with Blad on it that's heavy and loud would be Heresy in Disguise from their first album. I liked the first Falconer album just because the guitarist ( Stefan Weinerhall ) was from the epic Mithotyn and I desperately wanted more of that guitar sound. Mathias is OK but I agree that he never has any power behind his vocals, except for very rare moments in some songs on that album. Even if you take "Heresy in Disguise", most of the time, as with most of the songs, it's kind of like he's "sing talking" or to rephrase, that he's just kind of talking musically rather than actually singing. [edit] I get that that is kind of the point of Falconer, it's like a bard/minstrel telling a folk story, but it doesn't change how weak his vocals sound most of the time. The bright side though is that I just remembered how much I loved Mithotyn and wish they hadn't dissolved in '99. For King of the Distant Forest album: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=js6kDCE1r8A Gathered Around the Oaken Table album: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-a40HAK4_s TollTheHounds fucked around with this message at 19:20 on Dec 3, 2015 |
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More metal drama around Immortal/Abbath. Sounds like sour grapes from Demonaz and Horgh to me - they're saying Abbath has a substance abuse problem/never attended rehearsals and THAT is why they split up and haven't released an album in years.   Abbath wrote ALL the music - the other guys did gently caress all except for the lyrics ( lol ) and right now Abbath is the one who's already touring and releasing an album. The comments on this post on their facebook are pretty great.  https://www.facebook.com/immortalofficial/photos/a.442873947317.234252.7973092317/10153839881207318/?type=3 Immortal Facebook page posted:After the IMMORTAL trademark case was closed by “PATENTSTYRET” (Norway’s Patent Office) in November 2015, Demonaz and Horgh can finally share their side of the story for the first time.
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Vulture Culture posted:Jesus, I had no idea how much Gamma Ray was aping Blind Guardian during their late-nineties era. MrBling posted:I still maintain that Iron Savior is the better version of Gamma Ray, with the caveat that I've not heard anything of theirs post-Unification. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pe7--OHTacM Like Defiant Sally said, they're still pretty good. I grabbed Rise of the Hero from 2014 and I like it. Vulture Culture posted:Speaking of power metal, what do people like about Mathias Blad from Falconer? He sounds like the power metal Greg Graffin.
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TollTheHounds posted:More metal drama around Immortal/Abbath. Sounds like sour grapes from Demonaz and Horgh to me - they're saying Abbath has a substance abuse problem/never attended rehearsals and THAT is why they split up and haven't released an album in years. I am so 100% team abbath it's not even funny. What a bunch of whiny children.
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Nordick posted:Huh, I've been listening to both bands for close to 20 years now and I don't really hear any BG-aping in GR's music? They have different enough sounds to me. Sasha Paeth, who's the Scott Burns of German power metal, had a band in the late 80's early 90's and it's pretty kick rear end . Definitely worth adding to the Iron Savior, Gamma Ray and Primal Fear rotation. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2yrqdl-osc
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saviro posted:Sasha Paeth, who's the Scott Burns of German power metal, had a band in the late 80's early 90's and it's pretty kick rear end . Definitely worth adding to the Iron Savior, Gamma Ray and Primal Fear rotation.
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Power metal chat: Check out Merging Flare, they have one album out and it's total Gamma Ray/90's power metal worship of the best kind. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTMnHkNf-Bk Finally broke down and got the new Gloryhammer. Being a big Alestorm fan I have no idea why it took me so long to get into these guys. Are they serious? Is it all a big joke? Who cares it's awesome. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGV6bCTMM5w https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXzMD065HEk
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Nordick posted:Huh, I've been listening to both bands for close to 20 years now and I don't really hear any BG-aping in GR's music? They have different enough sounds to me. Vulture Culture fucked around with this message at 19:05 on Dec 4, 2015 |
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TollTheHounds posted:Abbath wrote ALL the music - the other guys did gently caress all except for the lyrics ( lol ) and right now Abbath is the one who's already touring and releasing an album. The comments on this post on their facebook are pretty great. No offense, but you don't appear to have any clue over the history of the band. Demonaz may have only written the lyrics in latter days, but he was a full contributing member on early Immortal material. There's a massive difference in the guitars when you compare his playing with Abbath's - whether that's down to simply stylistic differences or Abbath not being able to play at the same speed Demonaz could (although still quick), makes it impossible to say who was the primary writer of leads on early material. But Demonaz is credited with songwriting on a few of the albums for sure. As for touring - Demonaz has acute tendinitis. He won't be doing that soon with anyone, he can't even play on albums. The whole situation is pathetic, Gorgoroth MkII but even worse.
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7734 posted:Power metal chat: Hah no wonder they're Gamma Ray worship, it has (main?) people from Guardians of Mankind, a GR tribute band. Be adding to my to buy list.
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The Clit Avoider posted:No offense, but you don't appear to have any clue over the history of the band. Demonaz may have only written the lyrics in latter days, but he was a full contributing member on early Immortal material. There's a massive difference in the guitars when you compare his playing with Abbath's - whether that's down to simply stylistic differences or Abbath not being able to play at the same speed Demonaz could (although still quick), makes it impossible to say who was the primary writer of leads on early material. But Demonaz is credited with songwriting on a few of the albums for sure. No offense taken - You're right, I didn't bother to look at their first albums to confirm/deny song-writing contribution. Regardless, for me, the pinnacle of Immortal was At the Heart of Winter and that is the first album post-Demonaz song-writing contribution so I never really associate Demonaz with doing anything other than the lyrics. Which is all he's ever been credited for on the albums from that point on. So no, Abbath didn't literally solo write every single Immortal song ever - just the ones from 1999 on which are the only ones I keep coming back to. I'll amend my statement for posterity's sake: TollTheHounds posted:Abbath has written ALL the music since 1999 - the other guys have done gently caress all except for the lyrics ( lol ) and right now Abbath is the one who's already touring and releasing an album. The comments on this post on their facebook are pretty great. I still maintain this is sour grapes, Demonaz & Horgh don't want their legacy erased even though they haven't really done much in terms of contributing to the Immortal "sound" since 1997, and I assume they don't want to lose the $0.01/month they might get on royalties or something. Abbath wanted to keep going and since the other guys either couldn't, or wouldn't ( because of lack of time, they hate each other, or Abbath is always wasted ), and legally he can't take the Immortal name, he went solo. Either way 
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