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I keep thinking of fat damon and some sort of small-town bourne movie. Also I have an ex who used to talk all the time about actualizing and she was kinda crazy and had to try and make everything an adventure.
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Unzip and Attack posted:Really mixed on this episode. I liked the suspense and the way Peggy was spiraling into crazy but having Hanzee, who has likely spent his whole life dealing with racism, suddenly break at the exact moment he's about to rescue Dodd just seemed really contrived. I mean the dude was forced to be a tunnel rat probably because his racist NCOs didn't give a poo poo if he made it out alive but a couple racists at a bar make him go full murder spree? And how many times is Peggy going to somehow physically overcome professional murderers? I know it's supposed to be a dark comedy but this episode really just seemed a bit too corny and slapstick. The Blumqists have bungled their way out of hopeless situations just one too many times for my tastes. Peggy can overcome professional murderers because she is insane. Dont underestimate crazy people imo
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Dec 2, 2015 19:52
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shes actualizing
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She also didn't "physically overcome" anyone. She surprised Dodd twice, once when he dropped his taser like a dumbass in her hoarder basement and once when he was stringing up Fat Damon and she saw an opening to nail his foot to the floor. You make it sound like she challenged him to a fight and knocked him out with a haymaker.
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Illinois Smith posted:She also didn't "physically overcome" anyone. She surprised Dodd twice, once when he dropped his taser like a dumbass in her hoarder basement and once when he was stringing up Fat Damon and she saw an opening to nail his foot to the floor. this is the silliest semantics "durr she used a tool to knock a guy out DOESNT COUNT"
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Dec 2, 2015 20:54
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What an awesome episode. Holy poo poo.
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Lutha Mahtin posted:this is the silliest semantics Whaaaat? Oh come on, a toddler could kill Mike Tyson with a, "tool,"* and if he did, it'd be ridiculous to call that, "physically overpowering!" This isn't silly semantics. It's pointing out that the other guy's complaint was hyperbole. * This toddler right here in particular: 
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Lutha Mahtin posted:this is the silliest semantics It's no dumber than the exaggerations it is responding to. She surprised a cocky dude who underestimated her, it's not that far fetched.
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Illinois Smith posted:She surprised Dodd twice, once when he dropped his taser like a dumbass in her hoarder basement and once when he was stringing up Fat Damon and she saw an opening to nail his foot to the floor. Nah. That second one is all on Dodd. He straight up turns to her, goes "Yep, she's awake. drat ladyfolk", then turns back to Ed to deliver more monologue. It's when he ignores her again that she fucks him up good. Exact same mistake he made with his daughter, it just bit everyone else in the rear end rather than him. claw game handjob fucked around with this message at 21:34 on Dec 2, 2015 |
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Accretionist posted:It's pointing out that the other guy's complaint was hyperbole. No, it's really not. Yes, the situations were contrived enough to make her physically overpowering Dodd plausible but in the end a hair stylist has incapacitated a mob enforcer twice. Ed having James Bond combat reflexes when a gunman tries to kill him is also silly, but taken all together I just think it merits an eye roll. You're free to disagree you know. What I liked about the movie vs. the show is that Jerry is just as inept a criminal as he is a car salesman. He doesn't gain plot armor and insane luck by embracing evil. Watching Lester and now the Blumquists get the drop on everyone and moonwalk their way around legitimately dangerous people just isn't as interesting as watching someone like Jerry have his plans completely spiral out of control. Unzip and Attack fucked around with this message at 22:30 on Dec 2, 2015 |
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I loved the car conversation between Ed and Peggy where they both happily come to the conclusion that they're finally in full and joyful agreement on a subject.... but neither one has been listening to a word the other has said until it sounded like something that agreed with what they themselves were saying 
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Unzip and Attack posted:No, it's really not. Yes, the situations were contrived enough to make her physically overpowering Dodd plausible but in the end a hair stylist has incapacitated a mob enforcer twice. Ed having James Bond combat reflexes when a gunman tries to kill him is also silly, but taken all together I just think it merits an eye roll. You're free to disagree you know. Wait I thought that Ed had um, done this kind of stuff before
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I'm actually confused about that plot point, does Ed have a shady past or not?
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No. He was referring to murdering Rye, I think. I wouldn't say he's moonwalking though, the butcher shop fire was a clusterfuck all around, Rye was 3/4 dead already, and he only survived Dodd because Dodd underestimated his wife repeatedly, which was kind of built up the whole season via Dodd's mother and daughter. e: And Hanzee ran out of bullets.
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EXTREME INSERTION posted:I'm actually confused about that plot point, does Ed have a shady past or not? No it was just Dodd's invention to instigate the war. Ed has always just been a regular butcher. Unzip and Attack posted:You're free to disagree you know. That's exactly what is happening. Sorry you're not enjoying it, but "physically overpowering" is a really weird and exaggerated way to describe what happens in those scenes. It evokes images of wrestling someone to the ground, not hitting them from behind with a weapon.
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EXTREME INSERTION posted:I'm actually confused about that plot point, does Ed have a shady past or not? I tend to think not. He didn't go to Vietnam, he's presumably lived in the same house his whole life, and the local crime bosses don't know who he is so all signs point to no.
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Unzip and Attack posted:I tend to think not. He didn't go to Vietnam, he's presumably lived in the same house his whole life, and the local crime bosses don't know who he is so all signs point to no. Oh, I was thrown off when he told mike that he was the butcher of leverne and mike said that he liked his style or something
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EXTREME INSERTION posted:Oh, I was thrown off when he told mike that he was the butcher of leverne and mike said that he liked his style or something That was all just a last-minute story change by Dodd to make Ed seem like he was this bigshot hitman out of KC when in reality he's just a local butcher who got in over his head.
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MrBuddyLee posted:They spent three minutes in the opening scene of this season showing a couple of rich, out-of-touch white guys jerking around a Native American actor from New Jersey. On a historical site where a bunch of white guys shot 300 Native Americans for absolutely no reason and got medals for it. He...wounded their knees.
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EXTREME INSERTION posted:Oh, I was thrown off when he told mike that he was the butcher of leverne and mike said that he liked his style or something
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Electromax posted:e: And Hanzee ran out of bullets. Had the racists from the bar not followed Hanzee out to his truck, Ed would be dead now. So thank you, racism!
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I wonder what happened to Dodd to make him such an rear end in a top hat to women. Or maybe he's just an rear end in a top hat idk
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EXTREME INSERTION posted:I wonder what happened to Dodd to make him such an rear end in a top hat to women. Or maybe he's just an rear end in a top hat idk His dad had him murder a dude when he was like 7 years old. Didn't have much of a chance I'd say.
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I couldn't help but think back to that scene in the barn where Dodd's telling the guy he is torturing (unknowingly already dead!) that he shouldn't be upset because it isn't as bad as what his father (or was it his granddad?) faced in the war. Then he gets tied up and poked a couple of times with a knife by Peggy and immediately capitulates and is meek and polite to her and follows her orders
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Jerusalem posted:I couldn't help but think back to that scene in the barn where Dodd's telling the guy he is torturing (unknowingly already dead!) that he shouldn't be upset because it isn't as bad as what his father (or was it his granddad?) faced in the war. Then he gets tied up and poked a couple of times with a knife by Peggy and immediately capitulates and is meek and polite to her and follows her orders She clearly punctured a lung, Dodd had it tough too J-ru! 
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Thats why it was so funny seeing Ed in that phone booth every day trying and failing to be the caricature that Dodd created for him. He bumbles about having done this before and being "the butcher" - Dodd's mythical Kansas City contract killer, not a guy who knows the difference between a flank steak and a skirt steak. Hanzee is the real butcher. After playing pretend with Dodd for so long, I guess he grew weary of cleaning up after a man he knows is inadequate.
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Was it ever explained in the show how Ed new about his new nickname of "the Butcher of Luverne"? I can't imagine Dodd would bother telling him about this alias and I don't remember if he found out any other way.
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I'm fairly sure Hanzee or someone else came looking for them earlier in the season and said something about being a butcher. I could be wrong though.
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So i'm REALLY far bheind, i'm an idiot and didn't realize this started back in October so I just watched episode 1. At the end when Brad Garrett was talking, there was a guy next to the projector in the shadows talking to him. I was trying to place the voice and for some reason I thought John Malkovich. Am I just super wrong and crazy or was that actually who that was?
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Thumbtacks posted:So i'm REALLY far bheind, i'm an idiot and didn't realize this started back in October so I just watched episode 1. You're super wrong
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Dec 4, 2015 19:19
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I hope everyone is John Malkovich in episode 10
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Just watched the last episode. Good for Hanzee. Don't take any of that poo poo for one more second buddy.
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Mustached5thGrader posted:You're super wrong oh alright. i've always been terrible at picking up actors by voice. on episode 3 now. god this show is so loving good. it's a testament to Jesse Plemons that his character in Breaking Bad was so good because I really want to like him and feel bad for him but part of me still hates him.
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Thumbtacks posted:on episode 3 now. god this show is so loving good. it's a testament to Jesse Plemons that his character in Breaking Bad was so good because I really want to like him and feel bad for him but part of me still hates him. I think it's also a testament to how good Jesse Plemons is that despite absolutely hating his character in Breaking Bad I can look past it and root for him in this role.
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I hated Todd in Breaking Bad but I gotta say I don't even see a glimpse of the psycho dead doll eyes Jesse Plemons was infamous for in this character at all, which is amazing to me.
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speshl guy posted:I hated Todd in Breaking Bad but I gotta say I don't even see a glimpse of the psycho dead doll eyes Jesse Plemons was infamous for in this character at all, which is amazing to me. He hasn't even offered Dodd any Americone dream.
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Speaking of actors that I'm very impressed with, Brad Garrett is pretty drat good here too. Granted I've only seen him in Everybody Loves Raymond so I've never seen him actually acting, but I'm enjoying this quite a bit.
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I never understood the hate for Todd on BB. He was a really interesting type of character that I've never seen before: a totally selfless psychopath. He just wanted to be helpful.
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I was also not expecting to immediately hate Kirsten Dunst and yet here we are
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Ave Azaria posted:I never understood the hate for Todd on BB. He was a really interesting type of character that I've never seen before: a totally selfless psychopath. He just wanted to be helpful. For some reason people got really upset when he murdered a little boy and orphaned another in cold blood, on a whim.
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