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This thread in Ask/Tell is BWM: I need some legal advice, because my roommate is a paranoid imbecile!quote:I've recently moved to a new city (in Oregon) with an idiot. I didn't really know they were an idiot until I moved in with them, but that's besides the point. Also, leaving up your Christmas lights from the day after Thanksgiving-mid January is BWM.
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Dec 1, 2015 23:36
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lambeth posted:This thread in Ask/Tell is BWM: I need some legal advice, because my roommate is a paranoid imbecile! False, leaving them up is FWM (fine with money). Turning them on all the drat time: BWM.
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Dec 2, 2015 00:38
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lambeth posted:Also, leaving up your Christmas lights from the day after Thanksgiving-mid January is BWM. The few bucks of electricity it costs to run them is far, far offset by the general good feeling they tend to give. Especially when it's dark by like 3PM.
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Dec 2, 2015 01:02
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lambeth posted:This thread in Ask/Tell is BWM: I need some legal advice, because my roommate is a paranoid imbecile! This poo poo is hilarious. He spent his share of first month's rent and deposit on "move in necessities" with no prospect of paying his new roommate back, and is appalled that she's getting increasingly demanding about it. The OP's description reads like a fanfic sequel to A Confederacy of Dunces wherein Ignatius and Myra move in together in New York.
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Dec 2, 2015 01:16
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mastershakeman posted:You'd have to turn it over in discovery, assuming the other side isn't incompetent. Not in a criminal case. If you are the defendant and have video of the incident, and you aren't planning on using it at trial, the only way for the prosecution to obtain it would be via warrant or consent. The defense absolutely does not have to hand over incriminating evidence to the prosecution, unless they are planning on using it at trial. Subjunctive posted:Turning over existing evidence isn't the same as giving testimony, and it's the latter that's covered by the Fifth. Nah, the defendant is protected against self-incrimination, period. Drug dealers and people who text while they're driving don't need to turn over their cell phones (though they often give consent to turn them over to police because they are stupid), drunk drivers don't need to take breath tests (though refusal often means your license gets taken away as part of the implied consent stuff when you get a license), and hackers don't need to give over their computers. The state either needs consent to go through that stuff, or they need to obtain a warrant. il serpente cosmico fucked around with this message at 03:06 on Dec 2, 2015 |
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Dec 2, 2015 02:48
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Easychair Bootson posted:The OP's description reads like a fanfic sequel to A Confederacy of Dunces wherein Ignatius and Myra move in together in New York. lmao perfect
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Dec 2, 2015 03:05
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Dillbag posted:I've has a dash cam for over a year and have never recorded anything remotely interesting other than some scary rain storms, but I know that if it ever captures an accident I'm involved in there's a 50/50 chance it will either exonerate me or convict me.
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Dec 2, 2015 03:07
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Easychair Bootson posted:This poo poo is hilarious. He spent his share of first month's rent and deposit on "move in necessities" with no prospect of paying his new roommate back, and is appalled that she's getting increasingly demanding about it. The OP's description reads like a fanfic sequel to A Confederacy of Dunces wherein Ignatius and Myra move in together in New York. Look she's sitting on a few thousand, so what's the matter if she loses $1000?
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Dec 2, 2015 03:08
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ohgodwhat posted:Look she's sitting on a few thousand, so what's the matter if she loses $1000? #ThousandaireProblems
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Dec 2, 2015 04:32
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il serpente cosmico posted:Not in a criminal case. If you are the defendant and have video of the incident, and you aren't planning on using it at trial, the only way for the prosecution to obtain it would be via warrant or consent. Right, my point is that the court can compel you to hand over the evidence (via a warrant), but has no way to compel you to testify against yourself. If the Fifth covered evidence possessed by the defendant -- if surrendering that evidence was considered self-incrimination -- nobody would ever try to destroy evidence, they'd just keep it in their possession.
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Dec 2, 2015 04:36
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Easychair Bootson posted:This poo poo is hilarious. He spent his share of first month's rent and deposit on "move in necessities" with no prospect of paying his new roommate back, and is appalled that she's getting increasingly demanding about it. The OP's description reads like a fanfic sequel to A Confederacy of Dunces wherein Ignatius and Myra move in together in New York. Can't decide who is more dumb, OP or the roommate who let some dummy with no job and no money move in to leech off her.
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Dec 2, 2015 05:25
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BEHOLD: MY CAPE posted:Can't decide who is more dumb, OP or the roommate who let some dummy with no job and no money move in to leech off her. When she herself is jobless, too. It boggles the mind.
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Dec 2, 2015 07:07
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Subjunctive posted:Right, my point is that the court can compel you to hand over the evidence (via a warrant), but has no way to compel you to testify against yourself. If the Fifth covered evidence possessed by the defendant -- if surrendering that evidence was considered self-incrimination -- nobody would ever try to destroy evidence, they'd just keep it in their possession. Ah, got it, I was confused by what you'd said because other posters had implied that defendants have to hand over inculpatory evidence as part of the discovery process.
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Dec 2, 2015 07:40
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NancyPants posted:When she herself is jobless, too. It boggles the mind. In that case, the landlord is the dumbest one.
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Dec 2, 2015 13:38
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effervescible posted:In that case, the landlord is the dumbest one. Tenant got off good. He got to move in with zero down. He'll crash two months then move on to his next squat.
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Dec 2, 2015 14:40
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NancyPants posted:Christmas is BWM. Have budgeted comfortably for it but I still don't want to spend the drat money.  Oh, and about all of this dashcam talk: +1 to dashcams. My wife and I both have one, and they've already saved our asses less than a year after buying them. Highly recommended. In my wife's case, a speeding texter caused a three vehicle collision, then tried to accuse my wife of "driving like she's crazy". The dashcam footage proved otherwise. il serpente cosmico posted:drunk drivers don't need to take breath tests (though refusal often means your license gets taken away as part of the implied consent stuff when you get a license), melon cat fucked around with this message at 19:20 on Dec 2, 2015 |
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Dec 2, 2015 19:02
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melon cat posted:I know this makes me sound like The Grinch, but years and years of receiving all sorts of odd, thoughtless gifts has led me to the same conclusion. Everyone ends up buying others gifts that the receiver probably doesn't want, or need. And it's not like we're all breaking even at the end of it all- I'd be cool with it, if we were. But usually everyone's worse off money-wise. Because I really didn't need a breakfast-in-bed stool. Or a corn-cob holder. Can't we all just get together, eat turkey and decadent food, and just call it a night without a bunch of BWM gift-giving? https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2013/12/25/an-economists-guide-to-gift-giving/ You're not wrong. The moral of the story is that gift giving should only be done for people you know very well
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Dec 2, 2015 20:27
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Shamelessly stolen from the Games chat thread. Piracy is surprisingly BWM. http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3753916&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=6#post453392375 
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Dec 2, 2015 23:37
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melon cat posted:I'd be careful with this advice, because it all depends on your jurisdiction. Here in Canada, you are absolutely required to provide a breathalyzer sample if requested by a police officer. Sorry, I thought the discussion about the US bill of rights made it clear that I was talking about the United States. I should also add that my only experience is with Oregon.
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Dec 3, 2015 00:00
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RussianBear posted:Shamelessly stolen from the Games chat thread. Piracy is surprisingly BWM. It's evidence that he had enough to buy the game but he pirated it anyway. Effectively buying a pirated copy for $1700+ is stupid and BWM.
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Dec 3, 2015 00:29
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Bitcoin is the real BWM in that thread
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Dec 3, 2015 00:33
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RussianBear posted:Shamelessly stolen from the Games chat thread. Piracy is surprisingly BWM. Wow. Talk about instant karma. Generally by the time you start making enough money to invest in pretty much anything you should have stopped pirating because you actually have assets to pursue.
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Dec 3, 2015 00:33
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My PIN is 4826 posted:Bitcoin is the real BWM in that thread
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Dec 3, 2015 00:41
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Jeffrey of YOSPOS posted:huh? sounds like someone made at least ~$1700 using bitcoin, sounds good with money to me You can't say if he bought $1,000 or $2,000 worth.
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Dec 3, 2015 00:52
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Inverse Icarus posted:You can't say if he bought $1,000 or $2,000 worth. The thief made $1700, tard.
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Dec 3, 2015 00:54
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r0ck0 posted:The thief made $1700, tard. He only got a little under 5 internet dollars, he still has to find a way to exchange them without getting stabbed or molested first! 
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Dec 3, 2015 01:45
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Don't worry, he can turn them into gift cards really easily. Oh wait
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Dec 3, 2015 01:58
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Guest2553 posted:He only got a little under 5 internet dollars, he still has to find a way to exchange them without getting stabbed or molested first! The theft is irrelevant, owning 5 bitcoins is BWM, you either spent real money to get them or spent more than they were worth in real money on mining hardware and electricity
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Dec 3, 2015 02:05
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Not a Children posted:Wow. Talk about instant karma. I think the thing here is not that he paid 4 BTC for the torrent, but rather that he downloaded a pirated copy of Fallout that contained code that found his wallet and cleaned him out. Guys its serious, that 4 bitcoins was his retirement savings
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Dec 3, 2015 03:58
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Nah, I get it, my point was that pirating in general opens you up to a large amount of liability for relatively little gain, even if bitcoin theft isn't the usual form of restitution. Kids generally do it because they don't have money, but adults with money to spend who do it are just taking an unnecessary risk.
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Dec 3, 2015 13:59
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Not a Children posted:Nah, I get it, my point was that pirating in general opens you up to a large amount of liability for relatively little gain, even if bitcoin theft isn't the usual form of restitution. Kids generally do it because they don't have money, but adults with money to spend who do it are just taking an unnecessary risk. There's some argument for things that are impossible to buy. For example, I love masterchef uk. I would buy a subscription service or dvd if it was available. As far as I know there is no legal way to watch it in the us. There's plenty of other abandoned content. Old Nintendo roms? They could easily sell those for pc but they don't. New games and movies though? I thought everyone knew that was stupid.
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Dec 3, 2015 14:20
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Leviathan Song posted:Old Nintendo roms? They could easily sell those for pc but they don't.
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Dec 3, 2015 15:00
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I can support the concept of pirating to hopefully push a right's owner into expanding their formats or options. I downloaded poo poo from Napster because there wasn't another option to buy individual tracks of songs I wanted. The moment iTunes came around I purchased everything I listened to. Likewise with Photoshop. I can't afford a $600 program that I have to upgrade every 2 or 3 years. $10 a month though, that I'll do. Nintendo games are trickier because Nintendo is a hardware company. Without the money from console and handheld sales there is no new content. Maybe they could make up that revenue by expanding their market share for software, but it's a pretty big risk And Fallout...WTF. It's on 3 or 4 different formats with digital and physical media and if that's not enough you can just rent it. That was one expensive Fallout game he downloaded that he still technically doesn't own.
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Dec 3, 2015 15:24
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Stop trying to justify copyright infringement. You didn't want to pay the money for whatever it is you downloaded and that's the end of it.
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Dec 3, 2015 15:37
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But... but isn't getting everything you want for free and getting away with it GWM??
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Dec 3, 2015 15:51
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overdesigned posted:Don't worry, he can turn them into gift cards really easily. Oh wait Gift cards (notoriously difficult to buy at discount) sold for 80% off even though the going rate for gift cards on secondary markets is about 50 cents on the dollar?? sounds legit, I'll take $30k worth
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Dec 3, 2015 15:51
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Krispy Kareem posted:Likewise with Photoshop. I can't afford a $600 program that I have to upgrade every 2 or 3 years. $10 a month though, that I'll do. You're saying that like it's a massive difference but $600 every three years is about $16 per month.
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Dec 3, 2015 16:10
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Haha, I've mentioned this before, truly we have come full circle:froglet posted:Somebody told me I was bad with money for still buying CD's when I can just torrent it or get a streaming subscription. On the one hand, I do listen to a lot of music and paying for a streaming service might be a net saving on the entertainment item on my budget. On the other, I still use CD's in my car and my mobile phone bill would probably end up more expensive just from the increased data usage. I think it's one of those things that's really context dependent. I read a book a few years ago about this - called Freeloading: How our insatiable appetite for free content starves creativity. In fact, it (and the rest of the publishers catalogue) is on sale this week for USD$1! While I don't agree wholesale with everything he has to say, it is very interesting. A few years back there was a Video Game Tycoon type game where if you pirated the game you weren't able to win... because people kept pirating your games in the game itself.
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Dec 3, 2015 16:30
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Pirating software is the problem - that guy got hosed up because he ran some random executable. Pirating songs doesn't have the same effect and, in fact, it's good. Actually downloading them is kinda silly though when you can stream them any time.
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Dec 3, 2015 16:52
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uninverted posted:You're saying that like it's a massive difference but $600 every three years is about $16 per month. It's still significantly cheaper because every time a new version comes out you have to pay the upgrade price. So $16 every month + $200 every 2 or 3 years. And you get Lightroom with it. Maybe this had nothing to do with the millions of people who pirated Photoshop. But it looks like Adobe found a way to get a steady income stream while also reducing piracy and expanding their market share. Which also allows them to add cloud-based copy protection without getting their end users upset, further reducing piracy. Apparently like 2/3rds of all their revenue comes from subscriptions now.
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Dec 3, 2015 17:26
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