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Joementum posted:Hope you don't enjoy eating fresh produce. Vegetables are for nerds, Iceland has a big gym culture so if you aren't pumping iron and eating whole reindeer then you're probably playing EvE in which case you're lost already Edit - also you can admire cool volcanoes
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Grouchio posted:Am I the only calm fucker left here tonight? im keeping it 300 like the romans, myself
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Some of you guys are acting like a Trump nomination won't bring out extra people that will vote for Not Trump, too. It goes both ways.
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Dec 3, 2015 06:57
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http://abcnews.go.com/Live Police conference just started testing mics.
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Grouchio posted:Am I the only calm fucker left here tonight? I was angry and then I retreated back into the zone of nihilism, the only way to deal with the political reality.
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Dec 3, 2015 06:58
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Lemming posted:10% less than someone who lost in what is widely considered to be pretty much a landslide is not really a strong argument in Trump's favor. Except that Romney was polling about as well as Trump (44% instead of 43%) this far out from 2012.
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Senf posted:Some of you guys are acting like a Trump nomination won't bring out extra people that will vote for Not Trump, too. It goes both ways. This won't happen due to liberal apathy.
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Dec 3, 2015 06:59
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Trump will outperform Reagan's '84 results.
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Dec 3, 2015 06:59
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ComradeCosmobot posted:Except that Romney was polling about as well as Trump (44% instead of 43%) this far out from 2012. Head to head polls are total bullshit during primaries.
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Dec 3, 2015 07:00
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Trump will not be president, azry.
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Dec 3, 2015 07:00
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Guys you need to calm the gently caress down worrying about Trump. Election aren't about loving winning debates they are about loving winning states. Romney wasn't more likeable than Obama? Obama was poison in his second campaign. He had loving right wing media attacking him nonstop and Obamacare was a poison pill. Trump has one base and demographic and one base and demographic only. White males. He can do fine with them but you underestimate how the game is played and outrage news cycles. Clinton can totally lose a debate and win a election. She can even be behind in the national polls and win a election. Trump is pure bluster. Clinton should probably seem week against him, let him feel high and mighty, and let him say some really sexist poo poo. That will get big play in the media and in general elections that stuff matters. Clinton automatically has a in with ladies but outrage drives votes and Trump's biggest strength amongst the GOP base is also his biggest weakness. His bluster makes him poisonous to all minority groups. Even republican Hispanics will have a hard time voting for him. I know my hardcore republican hispanic regularly calls the man satan and will refuse to vote for him - and would probably even vote for Hillary if it came down to the two. Clinton has African Americans, Hispanics, and White Women in her pocket. The major swing states are Virginia, Florida, Ohio, and Colorado Demographics will firmly lock Florida for her if she plays her cards right. I do not see Colorado or Ohio being stronghold for trumps base. I would expect Hillary to perform better there than Trump would. I'm not as worried as you are. I realize a muslim attack makes you think everyones going to blame democrats but we have had muslim attacks in the past and no one remembers the fort hood shooting or the boston bombings. They aren' brough up in the debates. This is not going to be brought up in debates 6 months from now.
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Dec 3, 2015 07:00
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ComradeCosmobot posted:Except that Romney was polling about as well as Trump (44% instead of 43%) this far out from 2012. Dude, find some other data to freak out about. A year out those polls mean almost nothing, and if they did, they would say Trump is screwed.
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Dec 3, 2015 07:01
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Black Baby Goku posted:If he is the only choice they have, they will vote for him Nah, most of them will stay home. That's why the sane people on the right are doing everything they can to keep him from winning, he'll ruin the entire down ticket in almost every state.
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Dec 3, 2015 07:01
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Republicans posted:Nah, most of them will stay home. That's why the sane people on the right are doing everything they can to keep him from winning, he'll ruin the entire down ticket in almost every state. You have no idea what you are talking about.
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Dec 3, 2015 07:02
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trump either will or wont be the nominee and then will either win or lose the general — further updates as events warrant
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Dec 3, 2015 07:03
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What just happened at the police presser? Everyone started laughing and jumped out of their seats while looking down at the ground.
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Black Baby Goku posted:You have no idea what you are talking about.
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Senf posted:What just happened at the police presser? Everyone started laughing and jumped out of their seats while looking down at the ground. Making room for another camera.
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JT Jag posted:Signed, expert political analyst Black Baby Goku Dude just because he's a baby doesn't mean he isn't knowledgeable
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Dec 3, 2015 07:04
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I'm a poli sci major, you can trust me.
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Dec 3, 2015 07:04
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Love the cursing on the hot mics
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Dec 3, 2015 07:05
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Lessail posted:Dude just because he's a baby doesn't mean he isn't knowledgeable i dont think hes actually a baby, and im starting to wonder about the goku thing too
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Dec 3, 2015 07:05
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Republicans posted:Nah, most of them will stay home. That's why the sane people on the right are doing everything they can to keep him from winning, he'll ruin the entire down ticket in almost every state. Weren't there some post-2012 studies that "showed" this happened to Romney?
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Dec 3, 2015 07:06
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Senf posted:What just happened at the police presser? Everyone started laughing and jumped out of their seats while looking down at the ground. They were laughing and joking around during the last presser. It was pretty jarring. It is almost like they don't know the cameras are on them, and it is a horrible optic. The officer for public relations was laughing her rear end off as was the ATF agent, then when the presser started they all lined up and looked solemn. I'm wondering if they are going to be called out on this behavior over the next few days.
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CalmDownMate posted:I'm not as worried as you are. I realize a muslim attack makes you think everyones going to blame democrats but we have had muslim attacks in the past and no one remembers the fort hood shooting or the boston bombings. They aren' brough up in the debates. This is not going to be brought up in debates 6 months from now. It's somehow sad that a tragedy like this will be 'forgotten' 6 months on.
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Dec 3, 2015 07:06
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Pohl posted:TI'm wondering if [the police] are going to be called out on [their] behavior over the next few days. ahahahhahahahaahhahahahah no.
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It's hard to believe that anyone besides Hilary is even a real candidate. Her only weakness is her inevitability, everyone else has like no chance.
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Pohl posted:They were laughing and joking around during the last presser. It was pretty jarring. It is almost like they don't know the cameras are on them, and it is a horrible optic. The officer for public relations was laughing her rear end off as was the ATF agent, then when the presser started they all lined up and looked solemn. I'm wondering if they are going to be called out on this behavior over the next few days. Yeah, it looks like they're all having a jolly ol' time. Conference is starting. http://abcnews.go.com/Live
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Lemming posted:Dude, find some other data to freak out about. A year out those polls mean almost nothing, and if they did, they would say Trump is screwed. I'm not trying to say that the poll means that Trump WILL behave like Romney. But rather that Trump performing as well as Romney belies the claim that Trump cannot compete against Hillary. If Romney can come from a meaningless 44% to take 47% in a general, it is entirely possible for Trump to do likewise. If Trump were really a hopeless cause and likely to keep Republicans home, it seems to me that that would bear out in a weaker-than-normal head-to-head poll. But he's doing about as well as Romney and clearly picks up a sizable portion of Republicans to his credit who otherwise aren't favoring him in the primary polling. Now there are plenty of other reasons to believe he couldn't (big money might stay home, because they may not like what Trump means for their chances to control public discourse and public policy) but all things considered the same, there is absolutely a path for Trump to be competitive if Republicans behave the way they have in the past (i.e. getting behind their candidate despite his credentials). But then again, we've never seen the non-establishment wing win a nomination since Goldwater. ComradeCosmobot fucked around with this message at 07:10 on Dec 3, 2015 |
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Nonsense posted:Trump will outperform Reagan's '84 results. I would not discount this possibility.
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PhazonLink posted:Weren't there some post-2012 studies that "showed" this happened to Romney? Nope, turn-out among self-described conservatives was as high as it ever was. It's that liberal turn-out also remained high and moderates favored Obama.
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toanoradian posted:It's somehow sad that a tragedy like this will be 'forgotten' 6 months on. Better than becoming like Benghazi.
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gently caress. Here we go.
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Whats with the local pity party?
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Pohl posted:They were laughing and joking around during the last presser. It was pretty jarring. It is almost like they don't know the cameras are on them, and it is a horrible optic. The officer for public relations was laughing her rear end off as was the ATF agent, then when the presser started they all lined up and looked solemn. I'm wondering if they are going to be called out on this behavior over the next few days. They're ecstatic because not only do they all get to keep their jobs, they'll get a pay raise as the front line soldiers in the new U.S. war against Islamic Domestic Terrorism. They get new guns, new equipment, more of that old military equipment we wanted them to loose, more funding, more police officers. This poo poo is a huge win for our Militarized police and the U.S. For Profit Prison Industry. It's bigger than the Boston Bombing ever could have been.
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Pohl posted:They were laughing and joking around during the last presser. It was pretty jarring. It is almost like they don't know the cameras are on them, and it is a horrible optic. The officer for public relations was laughing her rear end off as was the ATF agent, then when the presser started they all lined up and looked solemn. I'm wondering if they are going to be called out on this behavior over the next few days. They shouldn't be, if they are Most people there have either been in a high stress panic state all day and need to laugh or they'll snap, or are conditioned to this kind of thing and able to compartmentalize to a degree that tends to disturb people unaccustomed to being around sickness and death constantly
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toanoradian posted:It's somehow sad that a tragedy like this will be 'forgotten' 6 months on. There will be at least five more national tragedies between then and now.
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Crowsbeak posted:Whats with the local pity party?
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at this far out only indicator of how the head to head will go will be overall economy. So watch to see if Yellen heeds the banks calls and raises rates. If so it has strong possibility to derail what little growth and recovery we have had, and really hurt Clinton
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Crowsbeak posted:Whats with the local pity party? It turns out that Islamic terrorism can melt the steel beams holding up the Democratic Party's big tent.
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