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Do not Twiddle kids, It's no good Twiddlin' kids... Anyway, I posited a question in the Eternal thread that might be better off here in the main thread: we all know the Power 9, but what do you think would be included in the B-list Power 9? What are the next nine most powerful cards in the game (assuming that Timetwister is as good as the rest of the Power 9)? We were thinking stuff like Sol Ring, Time Vault, Demonic Tutor, Yawgmoth's Will, maybe Tinker, etc. C-Euro fucked around with this message at 14:00 on Dec 3, 2015 |
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C-Euro posted:Anyway, I posited a question in the Eternal thread that might be better off here in the main thread: we all know the Power 9, but what do you think would be included in the B-list Power 9? What are the next nine most powerful cards in the game (assuming that Timetwister is as good as the rest of the Power 9)? We were thinking stuff like Sol Ring, Time Vault, Demonic Tutor, Yawgmoth's Will, maybe Tinker, etc. Sol Ring, Demonic Tutor, Yawg Will, Tinker, Force of Will, Sensei's Top, Jace the Mind Sculptor, Counterbalance, Jitte? I dunno I just looked at what's placed in Miracles and then some other inherently broken cards. 
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Dec 3, 2015 14:17
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C-Euro posted:Do not Twiddle kids, It starts here, for sure... Sol Ring Tolarian Academy Mishra's Workshop Library of Alexandria Bazaar of Baghdad Yawgmoth's Will
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Dec 3, 2015 14:25
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A lot of bellyaching on Reddit about the mythic rarity level, all asserting what it "should" be and how it's awful powerful cards get printed there. Or weak cards. It got me thinking about the chances of getting a given Mythic in a pack. In a large set I figure it's a 1/8 to get a mythic at all and then 1/15 for a given mythic, so 1/120. For the chance of a given rare, firstly it's 7/8 of not getting a mythic, then 1/52 or 7/371 of a given rare, giving 7/2968 or 1/424. I must have a made a mistake, right? What have I missed, or are you actually more likely to open Gideon than Prism Array?
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Dec 3, 2015 14:29
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Count Bleck posted:Sol Ring, Demonic Tutor, Yawg Will, Tinker, Force of Will, Sensei's Top, Jace the Mind Sculptor, Counterbalance, Jitte? Sol Ring, Demonic Tutor, Time Vault, Tinker, Will, Necro (or Grizz), Jace... And I'm missing two. Top and BBE?
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Pussy Snorkel posted:It starts here, for sure... To this I'd add Necropotence Grizzlebrand Jace, the Mind Sculptor and be pretty happy with the entire list. Power 9 aren't necessarily cards that are just "good", it's cards that, when resolved, up your win chance by like 50%. I don't think that demonic tutor does that on its own, and neither does tinker - if that was the case, crop rotation would also be on there.
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Serperoth posted:Someone posted this on Tumblr yesterday. owns
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Dec 3, 2015 14:51
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Bread Set Jettison posted:Are we being nerds about lines of texts now? Obviously this guy needs a reprint.  (I actually have him in my Peasant cube. Along with Stop That) little munchkin posted:Processing the two abilities, the thing the card actually does, the 4 possible mana costs, and the different effect you get from each mode is a lot of mental energy to spend on a single card. After all that you still need to put it all together and evaluate whether the card is good or not. Doing that 14 times seems exhausting. I agree the design is great though.
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C-Euro posted:Anyway, I posited a question in the Eternal thread that might be better off here in the main thread: we all know the Power 9, but what do you think would be included in the B-list Power 9? What are the next nine most powerful cards in the game (assuming that Timetwister is as good as the rest of the Power 9)? We were thinking stuff like Sol Ring, Time Vault, Demonic Tutor, Yawgmoth's Will, maybe Tinker, etc. I think that if Sol Ring hadn't be reprinted in Revised, either we'd be calling it the Power 10 now, or Sol Ring would take the place of Timetwister.
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BizarroAzrael posted:A lot of bellyaching on Reddit about the mythic rarity level, all asserting what it "should" be and how it's awful powerful cards get printed there. Or weak cards. Also 52 * 7 = 364 Also 7/8 * 7/371 = 49/2968 Edit: 7/8 * 1 / 52 = 7 / 416 about 1/60. Molybdenum fucked around with this message at 15:13 on Dec 3, 2015 |
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Dec 3, 2015 14:59
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Molybdenum posted:Mythics dont replace rares, they replace commons. Wat
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Molybdenum posted:Mythics dont replace rares, they replace commons. Mythics replace the rare. It's foils that replace a common.
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Entropic posted:I think that if Sol Ring hadn't be reprinted in Revised, either we'd be calling it the Power 10 now, or Sol Ring would take the place of Timetwister. Sol Ring was an uncommon Fastbond should definitely be in there
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Dec 3, 2015 15:08
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mfcrocker posted:Thanks Recognise me! :P I also got one this wave, and have had a couple store owners tell me it's been well deserved.
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Dec 3, 2015 15:08
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was quite surprised to get one. Been a good month or so, what with this and making L2
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For real? My bad,I haven't opened a pack since khans.
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Dec 3, 2015 15:09
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Attorney at Funk posted:No great loss. I've always found him to be a nice guy. It's unfortunate.
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Dec 3, 2015 15:11
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When I first got back into it I remember thinking Foils were an extra card in the pack. In Innistrad and Dark Ascension, you could actually get 3 rares in a pack (or even 3 mythics), because the rare, foil and DFC slots could all be rare. I remember at the pre-release I had a pack with Garruk, foil Curse of Death's Hold, and some other rare. I'm sure someone somewhere opened like Lili, Foil Geist, Garruk Relentless in the same pack. Maybe Time Spiral too with the extra timeshifted sheet? I wasn't playing then so I'm not sure how that one worked.
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Skyl3lazer posted:To this I'd add I think Necropotence Time Vault But not Griselbrand or Jace.
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Dec 3, 2015 15:19
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mcmagic posted:I've always found him to be a nice guy. It's unfortunate. Who are we talking about?
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jassi007 posted:Who are we talking about? Fabiano.
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mcmagic posted:Fabiano. Interesting. I've had several local friends play against him in GP's and at Tales of Adventure (SCG states) and they all said he's a scummy player. Mind that my one friend Mike has beat him twice (modern format both times) and said that he was a jerk. I'll try to get specifics from him, I can't remember exactly but Mike said at GP Charlotte he faced G.Fab like round 5-7 and something happened. jassi007 fucked around with this message at 15:35 on Dec 3, 2015 |
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Dec 3, 2015 15:32
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jassi007 posted:Interesting. I've had several local friends play against him in GP's and at Tales of Adventure (SCG states) and they all said he's a scummy player. I've heard that too but I've played against him a bunch and he's always been nice to me. I'm sure he's been scummy to others though.
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Dec 3, 2015 15:34
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mcmagic posted:Fabiano. He is a huge backseat judge and every event I've ever judged with him in it has involved at least one instance of his "help" on a call that took place near his table. I believe the foil story 100%.
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maybe he needs to stop bullying the judges in rap form
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Dec 3, 2015 15:37
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DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:He is a huge backseat judge and every event I've ever judged with him in it has involved at least one instance of his "help" on a call that took place near his table. I believe the foil story 100%. I believe it as well.
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Dec 3, 2015 15:38
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Pussy Snorkel posted:I think Time Vault, depending on which ruling you're going on, has been between worthless and only good w/ key.
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Dec 3, 2015 15:42
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DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:He is a huge backseat judge and every event I've ever judged with him in it has involved at least one instance of his "help" on a call that took place near his table. I believe the foil story 100%. Is that the "Judge my opponent's card's are marked." "Here let me prove it; see how mine are marked his are exactly the same oh wait."
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Dec 3, 2015 15:50
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BizarroAzrael posted:A lot of bellyaching on Reddit about the mythic rarity level, all asserting what it "should" be and how it's awful powerful cards get printed there. Or weak cards. First, that's not how math works. Second, the easiest way to calculate it is to look at how they are printed on the sheet. You are twice as likely to get a given rare over a given mythic because each rare is on the sheet twice, and each mythic once.
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jassi007 posted:Interesting. I've had several local friends play against him in GP's and at Tales of Adventure (SCG states) and they all said he's a scummy player. Mind that my one friend Mike has beat him twice (modern format both times) and said that he was a jerk. I'll try to get specifics from him, I can't remember exactly but Mike said at GP Charlotte he faced G.Fab like round 5-7 and something happened. Do you live in Central PA?
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Skyl3lazer posted:Time Vault, depending on which ruling you're going on, has been between worthless and only good w/ key. I mean, there's only its current ruling. Nothing else matters. And it's a staple of Vintage play for a reason.
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Lieutenant Centaur posted:Do you live in Central PA? Yes. Altoona.
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jassi007 posted:Yes. Altoona. I never have made it to ToA. I guess it's 2 hours away from you but have you ever been to the Adventurer's Guild in Harrisburg? There is also a new shop that opened a couple months ago in Leymone/Camp Hill called Savepoint but I guess that's a hike for you. We're on opposite ends.
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They loving suspended Fabiano.
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always be closing posted:They loving suspended Fabiano. I will riftsweeper him into the LIBRARY then you can HOUR OF NEED him.
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Dec 3, 2015 17:20
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always be closing posted:They loving suspended Fabiano. Because he opened his big dumb mouth and tried to prove how his opponent may have been cheating by demonstrating the cheat with his own deck. It got him a DQ and presumably an investigation. 
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always be closing posted:They loving suspended Fabiano. Never has Gerrard's Verdict been stronger in legacy
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TheKingofSprings posted:Never has Gerrard's Verdict been stronger in legacy Can anyone post the whole story? I just saw some discussion on twittah.
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always be closing posted:Can anyone post the whole story? I just saw some discussion on twittah. Gerrard brought up to a judge how one players foils in their deck could've been used to cheat by showing them his own foils in his deck at the tournament
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Dec 3, 2015 17:31
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Dr. Stab posted:First, that's not how math works. Second, the easiest way to calculate it is to look at how they are printed on the sheet. You are twice as likely to get a given rare over a given mythic because each rare is on the sheet twice, and each mythic once. That's right. In Battle for Zendikar, there are 53 different rares and 15 mythics. The chance of getting a specific rare is 2/121, and the chance of getting a specific mythic is 1/121.
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TheKingofSprings posted:Gerrard brought up to a judge how one players foils in their deck could've been used to cheat by showing them his own foils in his deck at the tournament Did he actually say "Look, I can see where the foils are in my deck and intentionally cut to them"? That's pretty ridiculous.
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