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Pirate Radar
Apr 18, 2008

You're not my Ruthie!
You're not my Debbie!
You're not my Sherry!

My Imaginary GF posted:

Blue-Dog Democrat

World's greatest caucus

Also, I told everyone it was terrorism. There are terrorists who have infiltrated the US Government and have guns. What can we do to win the war on christmas against these dunmer sleepers?

We need to be able to detect these sleepers before they act. I suggest an immediate program to include Middle Eastern history and languages into high school curriculums.

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My Imaginary GF
Jul 17, 2005

by R. Guyovich

Chantilly Say posted:

We need to be able to detect these sleepers before they act. I suggest an immediate program to include Middle Eastern history and languages into high school curriculums.

I agree. Congress should include an explanation of Israel's historical and continued right to exist in common core curriculumn.

You don't find yiddish speakers committing domestic terrorism, now do you?

Nonsense
Jan 26, 2007

I want the Congressional CMP to get rid of that stupid gun club requirement. I don't want to go shoot in a field for 8 hours you crazy prepper-Appleseedmen.

Proust Malone
Apr 4, 2008

greatn posted:

How do these motherfuckers keep getting radicalized? You were born in the USA and had a cushy loving govt job. What the gently caress is your problem! You have a wife and kids and live in a god drat gentrified area and get to do whatever the gently caress you want!

How the gently caress do you fall for some imam from good knows where taking you hey how bout killing some folks?

Maybe they wished him happy holidays instead of merry christmas

Evil Fluffy
Jul 13, 2009

Scholars are some of the most pompous and pedantic people I've ever had the joy of meeting.

BI NOW GAY LATER posted:

In good news, Don Blankenship was found guilty on the more serious of the charges brought against him relation to the Upper Big Branch Mining disaster: http://wvpublic.org/post/blankenship-found-guilty-conspiracy-charge-acquitted-making-false-statements

What the

quote:

Sentencing tentatively scheduled for 10 a.m. on March 23. Defense says Blankenship will be out of the country then and will argue to push back date by a week.

gently caress?

How the hell is he being allowed to travel outside the country when he's awaiting sentencing. I'm sure the multimillionaire with the means to live comfortably in another country isn't a flight risk. No not a risk at all.

Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ
AP reporting they found 12 pipe bombs at the guy's home. I'll admit I guessed wrong on this one, though I think it's still a strong possibility they were planning for something, but snapped at the holiday party and shot it up instead.

BetterToRuleInHell
Jul 2, 2007

Touch my mask top
Get the chop chop
^^^^^ Two rifles and two handguns seem like the lesser of dangers compared to what they could have done with that many explosives ^^^^^

Mr. Wookums posted:

As a white male I could not imagine being the target of all the Islamaphobia in this country (and likely office).

Yeah, I'm sure a county environmental specialist in San Bernardino had it rough.

BetterToRuleInHell fucked around with this message at 18:59 on Dec 3, 2015

Moose-Alini
Sep 11, 2001

Not always so

mlmp08 posted:

That distinction is called semi-automatics.

Yeah I meant people need to be more specific so we know what they are talking about. From what I gather, the more extreme gun control measures some people call for are to ban all automatics, leaving only bolt and breach loaders, but because of the vague word usage I can't tell half the time what people are suggesting.

Mc Do Well
Aug 2, 2008

by FactsAreUseless

My Imaginary GF posted:

When was the last workplace shooting where the shooters wore GoPro's?

A few months ago when that guy killed his TV reporter co-workers on live TV.

DeusExMachinima
Sep 2, 2012

:siren:This poster loves police brutality, but only when its against minorities!:siren:

Put this loser on ignore immediately!
Autoloading or selfloading are the terms you want Moose.

Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ

BetterToRuleInHell posted:

^^^^^ Two rifles and two handguns seem like the lesser of dangers compared to what they could have done with that many explosives ^^^^^

Guns are much more effective and reliable. The bombs in Paris didn't kill anyone either, but the guns sure did.

Rhesus Pieces
Jun 27, 2005

DeusExMachinima posted:

Autoloading or selfloading are the terms you want Moose.

I know they're called magazines, but I'm gonna call them clips anyway just to make your left eyelid twitch uncontrollably ;)

Old James
Nov 20, 2003

Wait a sec. I don't know an Old James!

greatn posted:

How do these motherfuckers keep getting radicalized? You were born in the USA and had a cushy loving govt job. What the gently caress is your problem! You have a wife and kids and live in a god drat gentrified area and get to do whatever the gently caress you want!

How the gently caress do you fall for some imam from good knows where taking you hey how bout killing some folks?

Yet when you travel for your cushy job, you are always the one "randomly selected" for an extra security check. On the Internet (and perhaps also in public) you are called "Mohammed", the enemy, or a towel-head. And in the public debate you hear people advocating the wholesale genocide of your parents' homeland by "glassing the Middle East". Although you have lived your whole life in the USA it feels hostile to you. And you do love your grandma and cousins back in the old country and want to protect them.

Basically the right wing hate machine is ISIS's recruiting department.

Submarine Sandpaper
May 27, 2007


BetterToRuleInHell posted:

Yeah, I'm sure a county environmental specialist in San Bernardino had it rough.
Regardless of job or location, life will be rough surrounded by the likes of you.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug
Texas is being Texas:

http://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/uncucumbered/texas_sues_to_keep_out_six_syrian_refugees

quote:

Texas has filed a lawsuit to stop the resettlement of six Syrian refugees in that state tomorrow.

The Hill is reporting that the Texas Health and Human Services Commission filed a request for emergency relief in Federal District Court late yesterday, asking the court to ban the Obama administration and the International Rescue Committee, a non-governmental organization, from resettling the Syrians in Texas as planned.

In its filing, Texas points to the 1980 Refugee Act, which requires the federal government to “consult regularly” with state and local governments about resettlement plans before relocating refugees in a state. The complaint charges instead of working with Texas, the Obama administration and the International Rescue Committee “have left Texas uninformed about refugees that could well pose a security risk to Texans and without any say in the process of resettling these refugees."

Texas also points out to the court that about 10% of all refugees end up in that state, and pleads that it has more than done its part, and that taking in more Middle Eastern refugees is just too dangerous.

greatn
Nov 15, 2006

by Lowtax
I have Muslim friends and coworkers I trust and respect, and other coworkers saying dumb poo poo loudly within earshot. How the gently caress do you just go along like everything is normal when your name is Ahmed?

Pirate Radar
Apr 18, 2008

You're not my Ruthie!
You're not my Debbie!
You're not my Sherry!

My Imaginary GF posted:

I agree. Congress should include an explanation of Israel's historical and continued right to exist in common core curriculumn.

You don't find yiddish speakers committing domestic terrorism, now do you?

I propose a detailed curriculum on Israel's history from 1020-722BCE, yes.

Nonsense
Jan 26, 2007

Joementum posted:

snapped at the holiday party and shot it up instead.

This was always a loving dumb reason. It was extremely obvious this was something more, when the first pipe bomb was found, and his loving wife was shooting dudes with him.

A Winner is Jew
Feb 14, 2008

by exmarx

BetterToRuleInHell posted:

Yeah, I'm sure a county environmental specialist in San Bernardino had it rough.

It's San Bernardino. You could film a live action fallout movie/series there with minimal set pieces.

A Winner is Jew
Feb 14, 2008

by exmarx

greatn posted:

I have Muslim friends and coworkers I trust and respect, and other coworkers saying dumb poo poo loudly within earshot. How the gently caress do you just go along like everything is normal when your name is Ahmed?

"Hey rear end in a top hat, are you gona shut the gently caress up or am I going to have to go postal on you?"

fknlo
Jul 6, 2009


Fun Shoe

Nonsense posted:

The DOD was impressed yesterday and has allowed women into open combat roles.

It was a pretty good exercise on how ineffective the gun nutters are going to be when the SHTF and they're up against even mildly organized government forces.

Ubiquitous_
Nov 20, 2013

by Reene

greatn posted:

I have Muslim friends and coworkers I trust and respect, and other coworkers saying dumb poo poo loudly within earshot. How the gently caress do you just go along like everything is normal when your name is Ahmed?

I would call out your racist coworkers. Only way this stops.

Gin and Juche
Apr 3, 2008

The Highest Judge of Paradise
Shiki Eiki
YAMAXANADU

greatn posted:

I have Muslim friends and coworkers I trust and respect, and other coworkers saying dumb poo poo loudly within earshot. How the gently caress do you just go along like everything is normal when your name is Ahmed?

Be sure to record everything, report it to HR, and if that fails contact a lawyer.

My Imaginary GF
Jul 17, 2005

by R. Guyovich

Chantilly Say posted:

I propose a detailed curriculum on Israel's history from 1020-722BCE, yes.

We need more Torah study in our schools, I agree. Bring back biblical values to America.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Ubiquitous_ posted:

I would call out your racist coworkers. Only way this stops.

Man if calling people out on their lovely beliefs worked, we'd live in utopia.

Gravel Gravy posted:

Be sure to record everything, report it to HR, and if that fails contact a lawyer.

Ding Ding, but also don't do it on behalf of your Muslim coworkers without consulting them first.

Nonsense
Jan 26, 2007

fknlo posted:

It was a pretty good exercise on how ineffective the gun nutters are going to be when the SHTF and they're up against even mildly organized government forces.

I've never been impressed with the pro-gun argument that they'd be the ones to win the Civil War when it comes.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

Ubiquitous_ posted:

I would call out your racist coworkers. Only way this stops.

What if they are your boss?

My Imaginary GF
Jul 17, 2005

by R. Guyovich

A Winner is Jew posted:

"Hey rear end in a top hat, are you gona shut the gently caress up or am I going to have to go postal on you?"

That's called making a terroristic threat. If you hear it, you have an obligation to report it. Enhanced Vigilence has a meaning, you know.

Talmonis
Jun 24, 2012
The fairy of forgiveness has removed your red text.

Old James posted:

Yet when you travel for your cushy job, you are always the one "randomly selected" for an extra security check. On the Internet (and perhaps also in public) you are called "Mohammed", the enemy, or a towel-head. And in the public debate you hear people advocating the wholesale genocide of your parents' homeland by "glassing the Middle East". Although you have lived your whole life in the USA it feels hostile to you. And you do love your grandma and cousins back in the old country and want to protect them.

Basically the right wing hate machine is ISIS's recruiting department.

You would think that sort of activity would lead someone to attack the U.S. military. Or Republicans. Or even the Federal government itself. But random innocents? That's what never parses for me. I would hate the people who were doing it to me instead of folks going about their lives. Maybe that's what happened here, as he worked with them.

My Imaginary GF
Jul 17, 2005

by R. Guyovich

Talmonis posted:

You would think that sort of activity would lead someone to attack the U.S. military. Or Republicans. Or even the Federal government itself. But random innocents? That's what never parses for me. I would hate the people who were doing it to me instead of folks going about their lives. Maybe that's what happened here, as he worked with them.

Terrorists are cowards and afraid of our strong institutions; news at 11.

Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ

Nonsense posted:

This was always a loving dumb reason. It was extremely obvious this was something more, when the first pipe bomb was found, and his loving wife was shooting dudes with him.

If they were planning to attack the reception why did he go, get in a fight, leave, and come back? Why didn't they take all their weapons with them?

ShutteredIn
Mar 24, 2005

El Campeon Mundial del Acordeon

BetterToRuleInHell posted:

Yeah, I'm sure a county environmental specialist in San Bernardino had it rough.

Goddamn, has anyone in this thread actually been to San Bernardino? TV news is also making the part of Redlands the house is in sound like Beverly Hills.

My Imaginary GF
Jul 17, 2005

by R. Guyovich

Joementum posted:

If they were planning to attack the reception why did he go, get in a fight, leave, and come back? What didn't they take all their weapons with them?

Terrorists aren't the smartest bunch, Joe. Real question is, what was it at the party that triggered this sleeper? Was it the fact that his office was having a christmas party, and that the terrorist wanted to wage a war on christmas?

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

Nonsense posted:

This was always a loving dumb reason. It was extremely obvious this was something more, when the first pipe bomb was found, and his loving wife was shooting dudes with him.

But then why attack the Christmas party and flee instead of doing more?

The Aardvark
Aug 19, 2013


ShutteredIn posted:

Goddamn, has anyone in this thread actually been to San Bernardino? TV news is also making the part of Redlands the house is in sound like Beverly Hills.

I'd wager most people think it's just some suburb of LA.

Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ

My Imaginary GF posted:

Was it the fact that his office was having a christmas party, and that the terrorist wanted to wage a war on christmas?

Given that he'd worked there for five years, unlikely.

VikingofRock
Aug 24, 2008




Nonsense posted:

This was always a loving dumb reason. It was extremely obvious this was something more, when the first pipe bomb was found, and his loving wife was shooting dudes with him.

Isn't "snapped and shot up the place and brought pipe bombs" pretty much exactly what happened at Columbine? The fact that the suspects worked at the place for years, and their choice of a target with very little symbolic value make me think that this was probably a Columbine-like politically-unmotivated shooting, and not an ISIS attack or whatever.

Aerox
Jan 8, 2012
Everyone who has never had the misfortune of having to go to San Bernardino should read this excellent LA Times article from this summer. It's a very good article.

San Bernardino - Broken City

If you don't want to read it, this picture from the article is basically a summary of the city:

fknlo
Jul 6, 2009


Fun Shoe

Joementum posted:

AP reporting they found 12 pipe bombs at the guy's home. I'll admit I guessed wrong on this one, though I think it's still a strong possibility they were planning for something, but snapped at the holiday party and shot it up instead.

Maybe he was just preparing for President Trump?

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Nonsense
Jan 26, 2007

I'm glad the Chief of Police is dismissing the goPro rumor as that makes it sound like they were trying to film evidence of their attack in order to collect compensation from Saudi Arabia.

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