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Just caught up on Adventure Zone. A bit on-rails like people were saying, but I've still really been enjoying it. I have a mechanics question that's I've been curious about for a little while though. The only exposure I have to DnD is old video games, which use DnD 2-3.5. In all of those, Wizards learn most of their spells by finding/buying scrolls. Is this different in 5.0 or whatever it is they're playing? Or is Taako just getting hosed because Griffin won't give him spell scrolls?
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Here's the way I understand it. Keep in mind that I've never opiated DnD and this is purely based on what they say in the podcast. So, everyone who uses magic has a list of spells they can use based on their class (i.e. Wizard or Cleric) and subclass (i.e. Transmutation or Nature) with more spells becoming available to them as they level up. They can use each spell as many times as they want, but the ones that aren't cantrips require the use of a spell slot, which are limited and can't be replenished without a good long sleep. This is why Justin is a bit anal about making sure they get long rests; once he runs out of spell slots he's basically helpless to do anything. Clint on the other hand has plenty of cantrips and a big hammer.
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Nov 29, 2015 23:18
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In order to prepare a spell to cast for the day, it must be in the Wizard's spellbook. When a wizard finds a scroll which contains spell they don't know, they can copy it into their spell book, but they also are assumed to be working on new spells all the time and get to add 2 free spells to their spellbook every time they level up. Every other class has a hard cap on the number of spells they can know or has access to their class's entire spell list and prepares a subset every day. Wizards have a lot of legacy baggage.
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Nov 29, 2015 23:28
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Poopy Palpy posted:In order to prepare a spell to cast for the day, it must be in the Wizard's spellbook. When a wizard finds a scroll which contains spell they don't know, they can copy it into their spell book, but they also are assumed to be working on new spells all the time and get to add 2 free spells to their spellbook every time they level up. Every other class has a hard cap on the number of spells they can know or has access to their class's entire spell list and prepares a subset every day. It's still easier than managing mana though, or "at will" & "daily" & "encounter" powers. I think the listener gets it when Takko sadly announces that he's spent his last spell, or the three argue over whether or not it's worth wasting a spell slot to save a gang members life.
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Nov 29, 2015 23:33
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What happens when a character dies for real? I don't know D&D.
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Nov 30, 2015 22:42
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myron cope posted:What happens when a character dies for real? I don't know D&D. The player generally hangs themselves screaming NOOO NOT BLACK LEAF
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Nov 30, 2015 22:49
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myron cope posted:What happens when a character dies for real? I don't know D&D. Importantly, sometimes people get sick of playing a fighter, or a druid, or whatever, and are fine with trying something new. On a podcast like this? It's usually easier to impose a different restriction other than death as a "consequence" for "failure". As an example, have one of the guys lose the ability to speak for a session (scribbling out their statements on a chalkboard) or something more fun like that rather than the forced integration of a new character into the radio play.
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Nov 30, 2015 23:22
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anybody else going to Candlenights 2015? I went last year and just got my ticket for this year! It was a blast and I'm sure it'll be again.
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Nov 30, 2015 23:25
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Kenny Logins posted:In a conventional tabletop game? There are spells that can bring someone back from the dead a bit weaker, or at full strength, or else reincarnate them. These are as "available" as the setting or more importantly the DM wants them to be. Ideally you might have an NPC that someone could assume control of, or have a way to integrate a new PC into the fold, or have a quest to appease a powerful enough NPC to do one of the above spells. There's a really easy mechanism to replace the characters in the podcast. They would just roll a new dude of their choosing and have it be an agent of whatever the artifact destroyer people are called.
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Nov 30, 2015 23:32
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Drunkboxer posted:There's a really easy mechanism to replace the characters in the podcast. They would just roll a new dude of their choosing and have it be an agent of whatever the artifact destroyer people are called. Except for Taako. The true quest is to discover mexican cuisine.
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Nov 30, 2015 23:40
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Lumberjack Bonanza posted:Except for Taako. The true quest is to discover mexican cuisine. he can be replaced by his heretofore unmentioned brother, Barrido.
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Nov 30, 2015 23:44
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We were really close (like maybe a round?) to seeing what happened when someone died during the first encounter with Sloane but I'm glad it was storylined away.
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Nov 30, 2015 23:54
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I am so loving psyched that MSMSaM is coming this week.
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Drunkboxer posted:There's a really easy mechanism to replace the characters in the podcast. They would just roll a new dude of their choosing and have it be an agent of whatever the artifact destroyer people are called. Anyway, death is just not as interesting as 90% of the alternatives in D&D, assuming some creativity in the mix. But if one of the players is bored of playing their dude it's usually a good idea to rotate out.
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Dec 1, 2015 01:54
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The obvious answer is that it would take a bunch of work to create and re-introduce a new character, especially if Clint dies and has to repick everything. It's a lot easier for Griffin to just come up with some deus ex machina or literal magical solution to something and just keep the story going. I mean at this point the podcast is first and foremost a story about their 3 specific characters and the adventure they're on. The fact that D&D's involved is a minor detail.
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Dec 1, 2015 02:33
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I don't think it'd be much work at all really. Random death in dnd is funny y'all.
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Dec 1, 2015 02:45
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If you die can you upgrade to like a level 1 ghost?
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Dec 1, 2015 03:46
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Wouldn't most campaigns left you re-roll a character that would be at least a similar, if not identical, level as the one just lost? I can't imagine it'd be too big of a hassle.
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Dec 1, 2015 03:55
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kidcoelacanth posted:I am so loving psyched that MSMSaM is coming this week. It's in my Bonus Materials feed right now GOGOGOGOGO
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Dec 1, 2015 04:18
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SpacePig posted:Wouldn't most campaigns left you re-roll a character that would be at least a similar, if not identical, level as the one just lost? I can't imagine it'd be too big of a hassle. 5th edition brought back rules for even running a game where not everyone in the party is the same level, but you'd have to be a real dickbag of a DM to use them. Not to mention that it's extra work for you.
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Dec 1, 2015 04:29
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Keep in mind that even if something isn't a huge deal to do irl, any major changes to the campaign mean that Griffin has to 1) explain it to his brothers/dad, 2) hold their hands through it while they do it, 3) naturally work it into the story/current campaign, 4) edit it down to both include all the relevant info and still be interesting enough to listen to, and 5) fit it into the ~hour-ish episode format. Certainly doable and maybe not even a big deal if the circumstances were right (the twin brother idea would be pretty funny and easy to do) but it's still something to consider so I don't blame Griffin for mostly avoiding actually dangerous situations and just treating it like an on-rails video game campaign instead.
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Dec 1, 2015 04:48
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I wasn't expecting Ma-slim-slam to dive straight into the deep end of yahoo answers but it did.
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Dec 1, 2015 05:39
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Rachel's voice is exactly in the middle of Sydnee and Teresa's which makes it nearly impossible for me to tell who's talking sometimes. Friggin' love this episode though.
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Dec 1, 2015 07:17
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Yeah I was worried it wasn't gonna live up to the wait until they started talking about tail-loving Godzilla
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Dec 1, 2015 07:24
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Which episode was the one that ended with 15 minutes of them talking like meek jazz musicians? That one was my favorite.
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Dec 1, 2015 07:26
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Ariong posted:Which episode was the one that ended with 15 minutes of them talking like meek jazz musicians? That one was my favorite. I want to say it was called "hey baby", but I could be wrong.
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Dec 1, 2015 07:46
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Meowjesty posted:If you die can you upgrade to like a level 1 ghost?
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Dec 1, 2015 08:37
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With only one possible avenue remaining to spice up his tasty central-american treats, Taako becomes a ghost in order to unlock the secrets of the legendary ghost pepper.
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Dec 1, 2015 08:53
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Roach Warehouse posted:I want to say it was called "hey baby", but I could be wrong. Nope, it was at the end of 123: contraband future dildos.
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Dec 1, 2015 09:34
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Oh god. Sydnee having an iguana called Jimmy Buffett is the most appropriate thing. We now know where Justin's love comes from
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Dec 1, 2015 11:48
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♫Guess what's back, it's Things I Bought At Sheetz!♫ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRFUfTXeESM
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Dec 1, 2015 22:53
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Waffleman_ posted:♫Guess what's back, it's Things I Bought At Sheetz!♫ I can't believe sheetz refuses to celebrate our dark lord.
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Dec 1, 2015 23:23
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How many times will Justin poo poo his pants?
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Dec 2, 2015 00:20
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Raar_Im_A_Dinosaur posted:How many times will Justin poo poo his pants? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWa0dZMHYeE
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I've been going through the MBMBaM archive since their guest Flophouse and it's quickly become my favorite comedy podcast. However, I think i'll go to my grave without being able to tell the difference between Travis and Justin.
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Dec 3, 2015 21:43
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I am Reverend posted:I've been going through the MBMBaM archive since their guest Flophouse and it's quickly become my favorite comedy podcast. However, I think i'll go to my grave without being able to tell the difference between Travis and Justin. Nah it's easy, Travis has a beard.
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Dec 3, 2015 21:59
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I am Reverend posted:I've been going through the MBMBaM archive since their guest Flophouse and it's quickly become my favorite comedy podcast. However, I think i'll go to my grave without being able to tell the difference between Travis and Justin. My fiancee has been listening with me off and on for years, as well as all of Sawbones and TAZ and she still can't tell the difference between Justin or Travis. I don't understand how, but apparently it is just that hard for some people.
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Dec 3, 2015 22:18
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Is MSMSaM donor only or is it just early release for donors?
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Dec 3, 2015 23:23
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I do believe it is donor only. There's no moneyzone segment in it which usually means it's a fun drive exclusive.
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I am Reverend posted:I've been going through the MBMBaM archive since their guest Flophouse and it's quickly become my favorite comedy podcast. However, I think i'll go to my grave without being able to tell the difference between Travis and Justin. I thought that at first too, but over time they get easy to tell apart and then you'll wonder how you ever confused the two. I think part of it may be that Griffin is so awesome you know which one he is, and the other two are just random dudes at first.
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