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JcDent
May 13, 2013

Give me a rifle, one round, and point me at Berlin!

Star Man posted:

It's a bad Photoshop of space marine features on a terran marine costume from StarCraft II.

No, that's actually an armored suit from a Zbrush tutorial with a marine pasted on it. Still, with people bitching (at times) about Marines not being anathomically correct, it's interesting to see how they could be redesigned to still remain Marine looking.

Granted, the most iconic part is still the helmet, followed by the backpack, I guess.

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Star Man
Jun 1, 2008

There's a star maaaaaan
Over the rainbow

JcDent posted:

No, that's actually an armored suit from a Zbrush tutorial with a marine pasted on it. Still, with people bitching (at times) about Marines not being anathomically correct, it's interesting to see how they could be redesigned to still remain Marine looking.

Granted, the most iconic part is still the helmet, followed by the backpack, I guess.

Oh. I looked at the boots and could see the hydraulics underneath and a terran marine is what came to mind.

Safety Factor
Oct 31, 2009




Grimey Drawer

Star Man posted:

Oh. I looked at the boots and could see the hydraulics underneath and a terran marine is what came to mind.


Christ, that anatomy is terrible. Blizzard proportions, I guess. :v:

Skellybones
May 31, 2011




Fun Shoe
Space marines aren't anatomically correct humans, they're transhuman creations, vaguely shaped like humans but with all sorts of new features jammed in.

Starcraft Terran marines though are supposed to be ordinary humans, so the weird proportions on them is pure artistic licence.

JcDent
May 13, 2013

Give me a rifle, one round, and point me at Berlin!

Star Man posted:

Oh. I looked at the boots and could see the hydraulics underneath and a terran marine is what came to mind.

Oh, I know, happened to me too, but then I googled the image to find a bigger one or something for goon viewing pleasure. That's how I know.

Certainly wouldn't fault your for not knowing random spacemans (probably "inspired" by SC Marines) that appear on the box of tutorial videos for... Blender?


Safety Factor posted:

Christ, that anatomy is terrible. Blizzard proportions, I guess. :v:

One thing about SC Marines is that the hand are all armor - the human hand doesn't go into the gauntlet, unlike with Marines. However, the leg goes into the shoe.


Skellybones posted:

Space marines aren't anatomically correct humans, they're transhuman creations, vaguely shaped like humans but with all sorts of new features jammed in.

Starcraft Terran marines though are supposed to be ordinary humans, so the weird proportions on them is pure artistic licence.

Still, there are unfortunate implications in how unarmored Marines look, thought they never appear on tabletop... or videogames.

The "how do space marines look outside of armor" was one of the things that lead me to believe that Beyond the Gates of Antare's Ghar are a parody of Astartes.

Star Man
Jun 1, 2008

There's a star maaaaaan
Over the rainbow

JcDent posted:

Oh, I know, happened to me too, but then I googled the image to find a bigger one or something for goon viewing pleasure. That's how I know.

Certainly wouldn't fault your for not knowing random spacemans (probably "inspired" by SC Marines) that appear on the box of tutorial videos for... Blender?


One thing about SC Marines is that the hand are all armor - the human hand doesn't go into the gauntlet, unlike with Marines. However, the leg goes into the shoe.


Still, there are unfortunate implications in how unarmored Marines look, thought they never appear on tabletop... or videogames.

The "how do space marines look outside of armor" was one of the things that lead me to believe that Beyond the Gates of Antare's Ghar are a parody of Astartes.

Space marine scouts are pretty much the closest thing you get.

Safety Factor
Oct 31, 2009




Grimey Drawer

JcDent posted:

One thing about SC Marines is that the hand are all armor - the human hand doesn't go into the gauntlet, unlike with Marines. However, the leg goes into the shoe.

Even still, someone would need to be like four feet across to get their shoulders in the right places. Like I said, Blizzard proportions. Or they could be doing this:



Thankfully, some nerd somewhere took care of those outlines for me.

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

The slightest touch from a Gol-Shogeg will result in Instant Death!
My feel with SC marines has always been that they just have their arms crossed inside the chest piece and hold the controls for them there.

They are, however, not as stupid as you might think:

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=s...iw=1600&bih=737

Ilor
Feb 2, 2008

That's a crit.
Yeah, this anatomy issue is one area where the heavy armor stuff from Infinity is super-cool:

They bypass the whole thing by leaving the pilot's arms exposed and just having the armor's arm motions mimic those of the pilot.

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012
Buglord

Ilor posted:

Yeah, this anatomy issue is one area where the heavy armor stuff from Infinity is super-cool:

They bypass the whole thing by leaving the pilot's arms exposed and just having the armor's arm motions mimic those of the pilot.

I'm the robo-cock

HJE-Cobra
Jul 15, 2007

Bear Witness

Hell Gem

thespaceinvader posted:

My feel with SC marines has always been that they just have their arms crossed inside the chest piece and hold the controls for them there.

They are, however, not as stupid as you might think:

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=s...iw=1600&bih=737

Arms crossed in the chest? That's definitely not the case, the original Starcraft 2 teaser trailer clearly shows how the terran armor fits on them

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TWUkIRjnW0

And the answer is, yes, it's just silly Blizzard proportions, as usual

TheCosmicMuffet
Jun 21, 2009

by Shine

Improbable Lobster posted:

I'm the robo-cock

It's like a wasp sting.

Lovely Joe Stalin
Jun 12, 2007

Our Lovely Wang
That's what she said.

Kaiju Cage Match
Nov 5, 2012




3 Action Economist
May 22, 2002

Educate. Agitate. Liberate.

Ilor posted:

Yeah, this anatomy issue is one area where the heavy armor stuff from Infinity is super-cool:

They bypass the whole thing by leaving the pilot's arms exposed and just having the armor's arm motions mimic those of the pilot.

That's great until a missile blows off your arms. Sort of defeats the point of armor to just leave bits exposed, doesn't it?

Skellybones
May 31, 2011




Fun Shoe
So it's like the Grey Knights Babycarrier except somehow more nonsensical and useless.

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012
Buglord
I've seen those hanging arms on a few mech designs and i'm still not sure if it's really cool or loving dumb

Lovely Joe Stalin
Jun 12, 2007

Our Lovely Wang
Well, the pilot's wearing armour anyway, so they are no less armoured if they get hit in the arms than a normal soldier, while being substantially better protected elsewhere. I would assume the idea is that it's more a high mobility fire superiority platform than it is a walking main battle tank.

JcDent
May 13, 2013

Give me a rifle, one round, and point me at Berlin!
Pretty much, nothing is immortal in Infinity (except for the Avatar). Also, I think that particular mech matrioshka-s on destruction, and now you have a mere heavy (I think) infantryman with an HGM runnin around.

TheCosmicMuffet
Jun 21, 2009

by Shine
I think of it as an extension of the gun on the top hatch of a tank. Sure, you're exposed a little, but in practice, it let's you do some normal stuff (in this case, hold something, or operate something designed for normal humans--like say you want to grab a disk or suitcase or something that's important), and maybe is important to getting yourself out of the suit if it gets damaged and disabled.

Just because the tank is great for doing tank-stuff, it's still an impediment for other stuff, and even if you're always out with your buddies, being able to use your normal hands for something without getting out of your tank-mech seems like it makes sense.

The diaper robot from 40k doesn't make sense, because there's nothing about a terminator suit that's convenient in the first place. On the other hand, stuff like that can be interesting if the premise is 'we still know how to make giant robots--we just aren't sure how to pilot them without a) scooping your brain out of your skull (dreadnought) or b) suiting you up in an ancient suit of armor that still has a working computermachine spirit that can run our bigger robots.

But 40k is dumb. And the model looks silly.

Infinity is pretty great. I wish I was a good enough painter to play.

Megillah Gorilla
Sep 22, 2003

If only all of life's problems could be solved by smoking a professor of ancient evil texts.



Bread Liar
I don't read any other Warham thread, so I'm reposting this here because it's all the inspiration I need to get through the rest of the day:

Indolent Bastard posted:

IT-freude

Interesting story from a very well known company supplying fantasy wargaming products in Nottingham (Games Workshop).

This week, reader "James" has shared a story “from my days as a Sysadmin, at the dawn of the broadband area, when I worked for a very well known company supplying fantasy wargaming products.”

Said company decided it needed an office in Europe, supplied by a warehouse in Nottingham.

“To connect the sites, the ERP system needed a link between the sites,” James recalls. But the company's preferred telco was a few weeks away from launching its broadband product. The European office couldn't wait, however, so James “used an aggregated on-demand international ISDN connection so the databases could sync as required.”

“This was massively expensive, but was only needed for two weeks before we could place the order for broadband. The system worked fine unattended, and everyone was happy as the ERP system worked flawlessly.”

Despite the outbreak of happiness, “a week later the IT Manager called me into a meeting with HR to inform me I had been made redundant, effectively immediately.”

James was escorted from the premises by security and prevented from speaking to his colleagues.

Before he placed an order for broadband.

“Two months later,” James wrote, “I received a call from the horrified IT Director (the IT Manager himself had been made redundant straight after me), to ask if I knew why they faced an ISDN bill for over Ł100,000.”

Remember that bit at the start of the story about this happening at the “dawn of the broadband age”? Back then, data connections weren't cheap. So by marching James without a handover, his former employer had missed the chance to learn about the expensive ISDN connection.

“I had great delight in telling them I knew exactly why the bill was so large and had they not made me redundant they would have not blown the whole year's IT investment budget in a single month,” James recalls. “Even better, they had gone over the cancellation period, locking them into a year's contract.”

Not a viking
Aug 2, 2008

Feels like I just got laid

TheCosmicMuffet posted:

Infinity is pretty great. I wish I was a good enough painter to play.

Thats.. not how Infinity miniature wargames work. It doesn't say in the rulebook you need to be Angell Giraldez to play.

JcDent
May 13, 2013

Give me a rifle, one round, and point me at Berlin!

Not a viking posted:

Thats.. not how Infinity miniature wargames work. It doesn't say in the rulebook you need to be Angell Giraldez to play.

Considering that some ham contests require you to have put at least three colors on the minis (wash don't count), it's probably really hard to get fuckers to paint.

...and of those who paint, a good percentage end up in this here thread.

Pierzak
Oct 30, 2010

Improbable Lobster posted:

I'm the robo-cock

It's the ejection system.

Star Man
Jun 1, 2008

There's a star maaaaaan
Over the rainbow

Safety Factor posted:


Even still, someone would need to be like four feet across to get their shoulders in the right places. Like I said, Blizzard proportions. Or they could be doing this:



Thankfully, some nerd somewhere took care of those outlines for me.

It's probably more like this:

JcDent
May 13, 2013

Give me a rifle, one round, and point me at Berlin!

Star Man posted:

It's probably more like this:



What about hamster ball?


HJE-Cobra posted:

Arms crossed in the chest? That's definitely not the case, the original Starcraft 2 teaser trailer clearly shows how the terran armor fits on them

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TWUkIRjnW0

And the answer is, yes, it's just silly Blizzard proportions, as usual

Yeah, that's the vid I had in mind!

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012
Buglord

JcDent posted:

What about hamster ball?

Space Bird Magic

Not a viking
Aug 2, 2008

Feels like I just got laid

JcDent posted:

Considering that some ham contests require you to have put at least three colors on the minis (wash don't count), it's probably really hard to get fuckers to paint.

...and of those who paint, a good percentage end up in this here thread.

Are you saying that most players don't have more than two colors in their paint collection :confused:
How hard can it be? One color on the gun, one color on the clothes and one color on the skin?

screech on the beach
Mar 9, 2004

Not a viking posted:

Are you saying that most players don't have more than two colors in their paint collection :confused:
How hard can it be? One color on the gun, one color on the clothes and one color on the skin?

Ummm most players I know don't have one color of paint.

TheCosmicMuffet
Jun 21, 2009

by Shine

Not a viking posted:

Thats.. not how Infinity miniature wargames work. It doesn't say in the rulebook you need to be Angell Giraldez to play.

I got some drones I thought looked really cool. Then when I took them out of the package it looked like a pile of metal shavings with a round central body that was about 1/3rd the size my mind had assumed it would be. I decided I would never be able to assemble it and do it any kind of justice, so I might as well have not even bought it.

Admittedly, this was probably a worst case scenario in terms of which mini I bought. But anyway, the point is that the charm for me is the minis, otherwise I'd play Advanced Squad Leader. Because anybody can trim counters.

Ilor
Feb 2, 2008

That's a crit.

TheCosmicMuffet posted:

Because anybody can trim counters.
Yes, and most of us don't even bother.

LordAba
Oct 22, 2012

by FactsAreUseless


Yes the people at raging heroes posted this following the french terrorist attacks. Here are peoples thought on the mini: http://www.gamewire.belloflostsouls.net/your-comments-on-our-we-are-in-shock-blog-post/
Yes, it is as horrible as you might think.

I guess they were trying for a Marianne figure, but completely missed the point? Not sure all of the details, but figured it belong here.

SavageMessiah
Jan 28, 2009

Emotionally drained and spookified

Toilet Rascal

LordAba posted:



Yes the people at raging heroes posted this following the french terrorist attacks. Here are peoples thought on the mini: http://www.gamewire.belloflostsouls.net/your-comments-on-our-we-are-in-shock-blog-post/
Yes, it is as horrible as you might think.

I guess they were trying for a Marianne figure, but completely missed the point? Not sure all of the details, but figured it belong here.

It looks like there's little snakes coming out of her eyes. Are those supposed to be tears :psyduck:

JcDent
May 13, 2013

Give me a rifle, one round, and point me at Berlin!

TheCosmicMuffet posted:

But anyway, the point is that the charm for me is the minis, otherwise I'd play Advanced Squad Leader. Because anybody can trim counters.

What drives more people insane, counter trimming, or trying to understand the rules?


SavageMessiah posted:

It looks like there's little snakes coming out of her eyes. Are those supposed to be tears :psyduck:

In the grim darkness of the far future, you cry in snakes.

Z the IVth
Jan 28, 2009

The trouble with your "expendable machines"
Fun Shoe

JcDent posted:

What drives more people insane, counter trimming, or trying to understand the rules?

Some people get really worked up about making sure their counters have nicely rounded corners.

Safety Factor
Oct 31, 2009




Grimey Drawer
My eyes are actually snakes.

JcDent
May 13, 2013

Give me a rifle, one round, and point me at Berlin!
Raging Heroes embody everything puritan zealots everywhere hate: enjoyment of the hobby in a myriad little ways: a fragrant cup of coffee and nazi Space Marines in the morning, Ukrainian slaves in basecoat standing freely on the dioramas the smell of warm recast, a battle in Kingdom Death shared with friends, a dab of ink on resin titty, gamers paying in the sex-positive Kickstarters, the right not to cover any bellies, not to worry about waist sizes, to paint and play and enjoy sexy minis outside of your house, to take Odalisques, to play any rulebook you want, to go to hobbyshop for free, to play, to laugh, to argue, to make fun of prudes and natives alike, to leave worrying about the miniatures to Tumblr.
No company does the hobby better than the Raging Heroes.

Heroes, we love you. We cry for you. You are mourning tonight, and we with you. We know you will laugh again, and sing again, and make miniatures, and heal, because loving minis is your essence. The forces of darkness will ebb. They will lose. They always do.

Archaeology Hat
Aug 10, 2009
What is wrong with her eyes?

3 Action Economist
May 22, 2002

Educate. Agitate. Liberate.

Archaeology Hat posted:

What is wrong with her eyes?

That's the money shot, baby!

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Ilor
Feb 2, 2008

That's a crit.

Colonial Air Force posted:

That's the money shot, baby!
:10bux: to the first Goon that buys this mini and paints her that way.

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