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Fried Chicken
Jan 9, 2011

Don't fry me, I'm no chicken!

greatn posted:

Muslims get Mississippi. Native Americans get Alabama and Tennessee, Cuba gets Florida

Give Jewish people Alaska, make real life like the Yiddish Policemen's Union

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TheDisreputableDog
Oct 13, 2005

Hollismason posted:

Uh.... are you being serious because those numbers are completely wrong.

http://fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/R44126.pdf

Sorry about this inconvenient truth.

Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ
We did it you guys, we repealed Obamacare and defunded Planned Parenthood 52-47. :toot:

(Collins and Kirk joined the Democrats to oppose this, over the PP funding)

Lyapunov Unstable
Nov 20, 2011
Is there a chance we'll get automatic voter registration out of Evenwel v. Abbott or is it just purely about loving over minorities/poors/notrepublicans

DeusExMachinima
Sep 2, 2012

:siren:This poster loves police brutality, but only when its against minorities!:siren:

Put this loser on ignore immediately!

SpecialK2 posted:

I'm assuming Republican - Galt's Gulch

An under appreciated joke on Joe's part.

I assumed it was Republican - GamerGate.

I am so broken. :smithicide:

Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
Lipstick Apathy

Raskolnikov38 posted:

"In a 5-4 decision...."



It would probably be unanimously struck down. I say probably due to Thomas.

Lyapunov Unstable
Nov 20, 2011

Lyapunov Unstable posted:

Is there a chance we'll get automatic voter registration out of Evenwel v. Abbott or is it just purely about loving over minorities/poors/notrepublicans
also on this note, am I wrong in understanding this decision as possibly creating a permanent Republican majority and it's bizarre that nobody is talking about it

Alfred P. Pseudonym
May 29, 2006

And when you gaze long into an abyss, the abyss goes 8-8

Joementum posted:

We did it you guys, we repealed Obamacare and defunded Planned Parenthood 52-47. :toot:

(Collins and Kirk joined the Democrats to oppose this, over the PP funding)

Which one didn't vote? Please tell me it was Rubio.

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

If you see me posting please remind me that I have Charlie Work in the reports forum to do instead

Crowsbeak posted:

It would probably be unanimously struck down. I say probably due to Thomas.

Thomas is very consistent on being opposed to gun control, federal or otherwise (cf Heller) - federal doubly so because this is Clarence Thomas we're talking about.

Scalia or Alito might conceivably dissent, depending on how they felt that day and whether Alito's fondness for police states outweighed his desire to keep the 2nd amendment undiluted.

Mc Do Well
Aug 2, 2008

by FactsAreUseless

We should have the mother of all mass shootings by way of the UN - how else will we be strong? When it comes to nuclear arms all the nations must open-carry or a shoot-out is inevitable.

We truly live in an age of terror.

Hollismason
Jun 30, 2007
An alright dude.

In the wake of tragedy in Newtown CT, Congress defined “mass killings” as “3 or more killings
in a single incident” (P.L. 112-265)


So yeah no you're wrong because they don't count mass shootings like this:

http://krqe.com/2015/09/13/state-police-investigating-double-homicide-in-los-chaves/

or

This in Chicago:


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/11/03/darren-curtis-chicago-sho_n_4208628.html

HERE:

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2015/oct/02/mass-shootings-america-gun-violence


1,347 Dead in 1,0,66 days


This is like saying " Well if we only count mass shootings as 20 or more people then we don't have that big a problem really".

Lyapunov Unstable
Nov 20, 2011
I mean really, was the daily mass shooting that much more important than reconstituting every congressional district in the country

Shimrra Jamaane
Aug 10, 2007

Obscure to all except those well-versed in Yuuzhan Vong lore.
Trump is actually catching some heat for his call in advocating for a literal war crime in specifically targeting the families of anyone associated with terrorists. Including a former Israeli minister for Netanyahu of all people saying that Trump is advocating things that would make us no better than the terrorists.

HashtagGirlboss
Jan 4, 2005

Shimrra Jamaane posted:

Trump is actually catching some heat for his call in advocating for a literal war crime in specifically targeting the families of anyone associated with terrorists. Including a former Israeli minister for Netanyahu of all people saying that Trump is advocating things that would make us no better than the terrorists.

Netanyahu is a RINO. He's not even Christian ffs

Zanzibar Ham
Mar 17, 2009

You giving me the cold shoulder? How cruel.


Grimey Drawer
If Trump clarifies that America should go after terrorists' families' homes then he'll certainly win the Israeli vote.

Casimir Radon
Aug 2, 2008


ZimZam gets kicked off of Twitter for posting revenge porn. Doubles down by explaining that his GF cheated on him with a "Dirty Muslim". I'm surprised a large scale hate figure like him can get laid nowadays. The other wrinkle is due to Florida's new revenge porn law he's eligible for a year of jail time :laugh:

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

If you see me posting please remind me that I have Charlie Work in the reports forum to do instead

Casimir Radon posted:

ZimZam gets kicked off of Twitter for posting revenge porn. Doubles down by explaining that his GF cheated on him with a "Dirty Muslim". I'm surprised a large scale hate figure like him can get laid nowadays. The other wrinkle is due to Florida's new revenge porn law he's eligible for a year of jail time :laugh:

What a classy and sensible man.

Mavric
Dec 14, 2006

I said "this is going to be the most significant televisual event since Quantum Leap." And I do not say that lightly.
But for sure not a murderer.

Pohl
Jan 28, 2005




In the future, please post shit with the sole purpose of antagonizing the person running this site. Thank you.

JT Jag posted:

What are the Dakotas doing right?

Most of the deaths are suicides, the Dakotas have good communities, which alleviates the suicide rate. Suicide goes way up when people feel alone.

Rhesus Pieces posted:

Then what the hell is wrong with Wyoming?


Suicide.

Edit: You have the double whammy of being rural and alone, which means you probably own a gun or 10. Odds are, you are going to eat a bullet if you fall into the suicide category.

Pohl fucked around with this message at 09:15 on Dec 4, 2015

semper wifi
Oct 31, 2007

Hollismason posted:

In the wake of tragedy in Newtown CT, Congress defined “mass killings” as “3 or more killings
in a single incident” (P.L. 112-265)


So yeah no you're wrong because they don't count mass shootings like this:
...
This is like saying " Well if we only count mass shootings as 20 or more people then we don't have that big a problem really".

Not really, it's more like saying "an elementary school massacre and a biker gang shootout have almost nothing in common besides both being shootings". You're deliberately conflating the two so that you can have a stronger (but still paper-thin) case when you use "mass shootings" to push for gun control.

the paradigm shift
Jan 18, 2006

semper wifi posted:

Not really, it's more like saying "an elementary school massacre and a biker gang shootout have almost nothing in common besides both being shootings". You're deliberately conflating the two so that you can have a stronger (but still paper-thin) case when you use "mass shootings" to push for gun control.

Why is this considered a paper-thin reason when a vast majority of the country is for using mass shootings as a drat good point for why we need less guns?

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

Casimir Radon posted:

ZimZam gets kicked off of Twitter for posting revenge porn. Doubles down by explaining that his GF cheated on him with a "Dirty Muslim". I'm surprised a large scale hate figure like him can get laid nowadays. The other wrinkle is due to Florida's new revenge porn law he's eligible for a year of jail time :laugh:

Ted Bundy? No, wait, he was charming and good-looking.

Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003


I thought Zimmerman was married since his wife got in some trouble hiding evidence or something back during the trial. Surprised him getting divorced was bigger news if that was true. Of course I could just have totally missed it being a thing.

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

If you see me posting please remind me that I have Charlie Work in the reports forum to do instead

Radish posted:

I thought Zimmerman was married since his wife got in some trouble hiding evidence or something back during the trial. Surprised him getting divorced was bigger news if that was true. Of course I could just have totally missed it being a thing.

The police responded to a domestic abuse call (and then the charges were dropped), so that may have something to do with the situation.

It was not particularly a thing.

Shifty Pony
Dec 28, 2004

Up ta somethin'


Shimrra Jamaane posted:

Trump is actually catching some heat for his call in advocating for a literal war crime in specifically targeting the families of anyone associated with terrorists. Including a former Israeli minister for Netanyahu of all people saying that Trump is advocating things that would make us no better than the terrorists.

I mean you don't kill their families, you just destroy everything they own and leave them homeless and on the street. A funeral is a one time thing but every day destitute is a new lesson!

Raerlynn
Oct 28, 2007

Sorry I'm late, I'm afraid I got lost on the path of life.

semper wifi posted:

Not really, it's more like saying "an elementary school massacre and a biker gang shootout have almost nothing in common besides both being shootings". You're deliberately conflating the two so that you can have a stronger (but still paper-thin) case when you use "mass shootings" to push for gun control.

Explain to me exactly why these are not both instances of gun violence to be tracked and recorded as examples of guns being misused to end lives? You're really undercutting your point here.

BI NOW GAY LATER
Jan 17, 2008

So people stop asking, the "Bi" in my username is a reference to my love for the two greatest collegiate sports programs in the world, the Virginia Tech Hokies and the Marshall Thundering Herd.

Joementum posted:

We did it you guys, we repealed Obamacare and defunded Planned Parenthood 52-47. :toot:

(Collins and Kirk joined the Democrats to oppose this, over the PP funding)

They're such pieces of poo poo (the GOP). Props to Kirk and Collins.

semper wifi posted:

Not really, it's more like saying "an elementary school massacre and a biker gang shootout have almost nothing in common besides both being shootings". You're deliberately conflating the two so that you can have a stronger (but still paper-thin) case when you use "mass shootings" to push for gun control.

They're still incidents of gun related violence that resulted in multiple deaths. These are not things that happen regularly anywhere else in the developed world.

Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ

Alfred P. Pseudonym posted:

Which one didn't vote? Please tell me it was Rubio.

Bernie Sanders.

mcmagic
Jul 1, 2004

If you see this avatar while scrolling the succ zone, you have been visited by the mcmagic of shitty lib takes! Good luck and prosperity will come to you, but only if you reply "shut the fuck up mcmagic" to this post!

Casimir Radon posted:

ZimZam gets kicked off of Twitter for posting revenge porn. Doubles down by explaining that his GF cheated on him with a "Dirty Muslim". I'm surprised a large scale hate figure like him can get laid nowadays. The other wrinkle is due to Florida's new revenge porn law he's eligible for a year of jail time :laugh:

If you date George Zimmerman and the only thing that happens to you is a grainy photo of you topless ends up on Twitter, you probably got off easy.

greatn
Nov 15, 2006

by Lowtax

Joementum posted:

Bernie Sanders.

Funny thing, take any song from Hamilton and replace the lyric Alexander with Bernie Sanders. Also replace Commander.

Rhesus Pieces
Jun 27, 2005

New post-Thanksgiving CNN/ORC poll has Trump and Cruz up, Carson and Jeb down:

Trump 36%
Cruz 16
Carson 14
Rubio 12
Bush 3

This is after Trump's whirlwind week of endorsing violent behavior at his rallies, posting racist memes on Twitter, and openly mocking the disabled.

mcmagic
Jul 1, 2004

If you see this avatar while scrolling the succ zone, you have been visited by the mcmagic of shitty lib takes! Good luck and prosperity will come to you, but only if you reply "shut the fuck up mcmagic" to this post!

Rhesus Pieces posted:

New post-Thanksgiving CNN/ORC poll has Trump and Cruz up, Carson and Jeb down:

Trump 36%
Cruz 16
Carson 14
Rubio 12
Bush 3

This is after Trump's whirlwind week of endorsing violent behavior at his rallies, posting racist memes on Twitter, and openly mocking the disabled.

Trump isn't talking out of his rear end. He's targeting a specific voter and he's great at it.

Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003


I want Trump to win the nomination to see if he gets the fabled percentage of voters that always vote Republican no matter what. I have a suspicion that a lot more Republicans are willing to vote for a terrible, racist, joke candidate as long as he's on their team than serious political commentators would like us to believe.

On Terra Firma
Feb 12, 2008

semper wifi posted:

Not really, it's more like saying "an elementary school massacre and a biker gang shootout have almost nothing in common besides both being shootings". You're deliberately conflating the two so that you can have a stronger (but still paper-thin) case when you use "mass shootings" to push for gun control.

Yes because preventing the mass murder of children and a shoot outs like it's the wild loving west are not good reasons to control who has guns. Why would people think those are good examples of things we should be trying to prevent? :shrug:

Hollismason
Jun 30, 2007
An alright dude.
There's literally dozens of other shootings you can list that match the criteria of 1 to 2 people killed but like 6 or more injured and it was in fact a mass shooting.

Congress want's to cherry pick the way it determines mass shootings. By defining it as 3 or more people killed you basically ignore injury.

Under that definition this was not a mass shooting:

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/police-investigate-orleans-shooting-left-16-wounded-35367005

Hodgepodge
Jan 29, 2006
Probation
Can't post for 206 days!

Shimrra Jamaane posted:

Trump is actually catching some heat for his call in advocating for a literal war crime in specifically targeting the families of anyone associated with terrorists. Including a former Israeli minister for Netanyahu of all people saying that Trump is advocating things that would make us no better than the terrorists.

There really isn't any good reason to not say that Trump advocates the murder of innocent babies, children, and the elderly- because that is what "going after families" entails.

E: Also I'd love to ask him what he thinks of the idea of Putin targeting Ivanka. I mean, if the gloves are really off, Putin is in a whole different realm when it comes to "negotiating."

Hodgepodge fucked around with this message at 16:33 on Dec 4, 2015

TheDisreputableDog
Oct 13, 2005
Oh I guess it was ISIS after all.

TheDisreputableDog
Oct 13, 2005
Looking a forward to the presser where the media and Repubican candidates take Obamas ire while he carefully dances around offending Islamists

Hodgepodge
Jan 29, 2006
Probation
Can't post for 206 days!
I just realized The Don can turn the family thing around by saying "at the rate we shoot up hospitals and weddings, we may as well target strategically valuable civillians instead of friends and allies."

I don't think anyone but Trump could pull that one off, but he totally could.

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Mozi
Apr 4, 2004

Forms change so fast
Time is moving past
Memory is smoke
Gonna get wider when I die
Nap Ghost
Right, let's encourage all 2.2 billion people to be our enemy. Sounds great.

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