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dissss
Nov 10, 2007

I'm a terrible forums poster with terrible opinions.

Here's a cat fucking a squid.
Unless you were really set on AWD I don't see why you'd get one over a 2 or 3 anyway.

I mean I'm sure it's a good vehicle but it's significantly smaller and slightly less economical than 3 without being cheaper and a lot more expensive than a 2.

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hmmxkrazee
Sep 9, 2006
why
Yeah he just seems to really like it regardless. I've already got the 3 and the CX-5 is a little too big.

Just got off the phone again with the dealership and they told me they're pushing the AWD cause they're trying to compete with Subaru's AWD in their vehicles.. What.

Edit: Quoted $25K+ after taxes, fees, etc. (Touring AWD). Quite a bit above what he's willing to pay. (~23K)
He's leaning towards an Impreza now. Lol.

hmmxkrazee fucked around with this message at 03:36 on Nov 24, 2015

Cygni
Nov 12, 2005

raring to post

B!G_$W@NG@ posted:

Has anyone had problems with the hatch latch on their 3? Mine has issues from time to time and flat refused to work the other morning (I'm guessing because it was slightly cooler out but not sure).

Catching up to the thread, yeah my 2011 has had this 2 or 3 times. I've never been able to figure it out. I think it comes from the latch sensing pressure, like something pressing from the inside. Normally goes away if I shake it a little.

Phy
Jun 27, 2008



Fun Shoe

hmmxkrazee posted:

I've got the current 3 and the CX-3 is much smaller than I thought. I knew it was smaller but there is no way 3 adults could ever sit in the backseat. The trunk is also like half the size.

The CX3 is on the Mazda2 platform, though. The CX5 is the 3.

The MUMPSorceress
Jan 6, 2012


^SHTPSTS

Gary’s Answer

Phy posted:

The CX3 is on the Mazda2 platform, though. The CX5 is the 3.

That explains a lot. When I leased my 3 I first sat in a CX3 thinking "I'm a giant and this crossover might provide more room". I couldn't actually even get my knees under the steering wheel in the cx-3. Couldn't get completely in it. The 3 is roomy as hell by comparison.

MetaJew
Apr 14, 2006
Gather round, one and all, and thrill to my turgid tales of underwhelming misadventure!
This might be a stupid question, but I've been driving for a few years on my RPF1s, and I never bothered to swap the TPMS out of my stock wheels. They've just been sitting in my garage collecting dust.

It's about time to get new tires, and I was planning on taking the stock wheels with me and having Discount Tire dispose of the old tires from the OEM wheels and put the TPMS into my RPF1s. Is there any reason this might not work? Are there batteries or anything in the TPMS that I would need to service or change?

Quixotic1
Jul 25, 2007

I got a 2013 Mazda3 iSport in auto, that I just took to jiffy lube to get the oil changed in a hurry and they told me I needed a transmission fluid and power steering exchanges and wanted to charge me 400 for the privilege. I had the feeling this was a rip off and got the hell out of Dodge. My question is, was it a rip off and can I do it at home? I've tried looking up what fluids my care takes but its confusing, the manual doesn't seem to list them.

Alighieri
Dec 10, 2005


:dukedog:

Quixotic1 posted:

I got a 2013 Mazda3 iSport in auto, that I just took to jiffy lube to get the oil changed in a hurry and they told me I needed a transmission fluid and power steering exchanges and wanted to charge me 400 for the privilege. I had the feeling this was a rip off and got the hell out of Dodge. My question is, was it a rip off and can I do it at home? I've tried looking up what fluids my care takes but its confusing, the manual doesn't seem to list them.

Not sure about the ATF, will have to look that up, but power steering exchange looks like a ripoff considering you should never need to change it unless a hose fails or a pump has to be replaced, similar to brake fluid.

ATF doesn't seem to have a manufacture recommended interval from what I could find. Most people say anywhere from 30k to 60k, maybe longer. Likely depends on how you drive and how heavy you are on your go pedal.

Alighieri fucked around with this message at 17:58 on Dec 4, 2015

IOwnCalculus
Apr 2, 2003





Alighieri posted:

Not sure about the ATF, will have to look that up, but power steering exchange looks like a ripoff considering you should never need to change it unless a hose fails or a pump has to be replaced, similar to brake fluid.

Two possible ATFs in that car. Mazda M-V (which is apparently not Mercon V) for the old five-speed auto, Mazda FZ ATF if you have a Skyactiv / six-speed auto.

There's actually more reason to replace brake fluid than power steering fluid. Power steering fluid only needs to be changed if something is very wrong in the system - pump / rack failure, or you've managed to absolutely cook the hell out of it. Even then it's just super-cheap ATF. The manual even calls out Dexron II, which is about as basic (and ancient) as ATF gets. Brake fluid slowly absorbs water from the air over time and should be flushed eventually.

At any rate it seems that Mazda was nice enough to put a drain plug in the ATF pan so it doesn't get much easier to change.

Suburban Dad
Jan 10, 2007


Well what's attached to a leash that it made itself?
The punchline is the way that you've been fuckin' yourself




Alighieri posted:

Not sure about the ATF, will have to look that up, but power steering exchange looks like a ripoff considering you should never need to change it unless a hose fails or a pump has to be replaced, similar to brake fluid.

As said above, replace brake fluid every few years. It absorbs moisture which lowers the boiling point and just gets nasty after a couple years.

Kia Soul Enthusias
May 9, 2004

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Toilet Rascal
But to be clear, Jiffy Lube will always tell you that you need all that

REMEMBER SPONGE MONKEYS
Oct 3, 2003

What do you think it means, bitch?
At least last time my local place tried that they actually showed me the fluid. It was only 30-35k miles (on a 2011, done maybe a year ago) but the stuff was terribly dirty, not really sure why as I don't have a heavy foot and have been doing primarily highway driving the last 2+ years.

Definitely keep an eye on that one. The only plus to having a shop do it is they can use a pressurized machine to move out the old fluid and move more in until they can see it's clean - I may have been sold on a gimmick there (and didn't end up using that shop, but should've). I was also told by a shop or two that Mazda ATF changes were a serious pain and wanted to charge me more :confused: I still think it ran me $100.

Kia Soul Enthusias
May 9, 2004

zoom-zoom
Toilet Rascal
Did they show you your fluid or did they show you some fluid?

REMEMBER SPONGE MONKEYS
Oct 3, 2003

What do you think it means, bitch?
It was mine, walked out to the car in the bay and they pulled the dipstick and put some on the paper showing the 100s of dollars of services they wanted me to get. I am extremely wary of all that stuff but the other shop I had change it also said "drat, that's pretty bad"
still don't know why though.

Quixotic1
Jul 25, 2007

Thanks for the help everyone, looks like I'll be buying me some ATF fluid now and looks to be very simple to change as IOwnCalculus stated. To be more specific, they wanted 300 for the ATF exchange and 100 for the power steering.

REMEMBER SPONGE MONKEYS
Oct 3, 2003

What do you think it means, bitch?
Did they press you to get your injectors/fuel system cleaned too? My shop here always tries but it's pretty expensive and I don't know how necessary it really is. I ought to run a can of sea foam at some point here but besides that?

Quixotic1
Jul 25, 2007

B!G_$W@NG@ posted:

Did they press you to get your injectors/fuel system cleaned too? My shop here always tries but it's pretty expensive and I don't know how necessary it really is. I ought to run a can of sea foam at some point here but besides that?

Yup,fuel system maintenance $100. Would have wanted 140 for radiator fluid exchange but I did itself.

Kia Soul Enthusias
May 9, 2004

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Toilet Rascal

Quixotic1 posted:

Yup,fuel system maintenance $100. Would have wanted 140 for radiator fluid exchange but I did itself.

FYI, it's called engine coolant.

REMEMBER SPONGE MONKEYS
Oct 3, 2003

What do you think it means, bitch?
I was also asking generally if other people think that's a necessary service (injector cleaning). They tried to get me on the antifreeze too (my mix is heavy on water, but the mechanic was from NY and I think overestimated how cold it gets in S Texas - I'm not ever going to risk splitting the block or much else).

Sex Weirdo
Jul 24, 2007

B!G_$W@NG@ posted:

I was also asking generally if other people think that's a necessary service (injector cleaning).

No, it's a scam, especially with modern direct injection systems. In general, I believe most of the things mentioned above are scams as well (ATF, Power Steering, etc. flushes). I always tell people to check the manufacturers recommended service interval in the owners manual and go by that. Newer Skyactiv models are considered to have "lifetime" transaxle fluid that is not really meant to be replaced and I sure as hell wouldn't let any shop try to flush it. The new mazda fluid is not like other ATF fluids and contamination is too easy, particularly by untrained/unaware technicians.

Unfortunately, many service writers are "flush bomb" specialists anymore, and are incentivized to sell as many as possible due to the high margins on these services.

That's not to say every flush is a scam, Mazda recommends coolant be replaced every 60k miles for example (on the Skyactiv sedans anyway, each model has different recommendations). I say just go with what the manufacturer recommends, not what the Quick Lube says.

IOwnCalculus
Apr 2, 2003





Sex Weirdo posted:

Newer Skyactiv models are considered to have "lifetime" transaxle fluid that is not really meant to be replaced and I sure as hell wouldn't let any shop try to flush it. The new mazda fluid is not like other ATF fluids and contamination is too easy, particularly by untrained/unaware technicians.

Lifetime transmission fluid means the lifetime of the transmission, until it dies because the fluid is burned to hell. All oils have a lifespan, even if the manufacturer doesn't want to call out a specific change interval. It's still going to get hot and slowly break down the additives that make it behave the way it's supposed to. Mazda is hardly the first manufacturer to try this, and won't be the last, either, because you won't run into a fluid-caused failure of the transmission during the warranty period.

However, yes, a flush should be totally unnecessary, and you should only use a manufacturer-approved fluid. In some cases, manufacturers will only approve their own fluid (i.e. Honda ATF-Z1), whereas the most common domestic ATFs (Dexron III and Dexron VI, Mercon V, ATF+4) can be licensed and made by any company.

Sex Weirdo
Jul 24, 2007

I think it is mostly about mitigating risk to the manufacturer, because I'd wager that the #1 way to gently caress up your trans is to have the wrong fluid put in. How many Quick Lube flush machines do you think are thoroughly cleaned out after using dexron, mercon, whatever before going on to use the next manufacturers ATF type? How many customers have had their fluid contaminated then come to the dealership complaining of shifting problems and getting a new transmission under warranty? I'm sure that eventually the trans will just be filled at the factory then welded shut.

I know everyone has a different definition of "lifetime", but I'm just not sold on the utility of having the fluid replaced when there is such a risk involved. The ONLY thing I would personally recommend would be a drain and fill, NOT a flush, using only Mazda OEM type FV fluid.

Kia Soul Enthusias
May 9, 2004

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Toilet Rascal

IOwnCalculus posted:

Lifetime transmission fluid means the lifetime of the transmission, until it dies because the fluid is burned to hell. All oils have a lifespan, even if the manufacturer doesn't want to call out a specific change interval. It's still going to get hot and slowly break down the additives that make it behave the way it's supposed to. Mazda is hardly the first manufacturer to try this, and won't be the last, either, because you won't run into a fluid-caused failure of the transmission during the warranty period.

However, yes, a flush should be totally unnecessary, and you should only use a manufacturer-approved fluid. In some cases, manufacturers will only approve their own fluid (i.e. Honda ATF-Z1), whereas the most common domestic ATFs (Dexron III and Dexron VI, Mercon V, ATF+4) can be licensed and made by any company.

Yeah personally I would change the fluid every 30k miles. It will take me a very long time to trust anything "lifetime". But do it with the fluid stated in the manual obviously.

nm
Jan 28, 2008

"I saw Minos the Space Judge holding a golden sceptre and passing sentence upon the Martians. There he presided, and around him the noble Space Prosecutors sought the firm justice of space law."
Fun fact: bottles of vw ATF have (or had) an expiration date stamp on them. On B5 passats, they sold it with a lifetime fluid when both the transmission maker (ZFl and the fluid maker said it couldn't do more than 75k mi.
Lifetime transmission fluid is a scam to bring down TCO numbers.

Nodoze
Aug 17, 2006

If it's only for a night I can live without you

nm posted:

Fun fact: bottles of vw ATF have (or had) an expiration date stamp on them. On B5 passats, they sold it with a lifetime fluid when both the transmission maker (ZFl and the fluid maker said it couldn't do more than 75k mi.
Lifetime transmission fluid is a scam to bring down TCO numbers.

OEM's aren't allowed to call things lifetime anymore, they have to use "long term" to skirt around it

MetaJew
Apr 14, 2006
Gather round, one and all, and thrill to my turgid tales of underwhelming misadventure!
Got my first P0401 EGR Valve engine code last night at 59,600 miles.

Didn't IOC or someone else on here post some photos or details about how to clean the EGR valve and tube? I read a post about cleaning them on MazdaspeedForums, but the OP had mixed results and said the code kept coming back. I'd like to try and get it right the first time and avoid buying $400 in parts, if I can.

IOwnCalculus
Apr 2, 2003





I cleaned mine at least twice. It's just a lot of parts removal because the MS3 is so tightly packed under the hood.

Once you actually get it out, you just hose the pipe out with carb cleaner, and you can do the same to the actual valve portion. I'm fairly sure that mine was due to buildup on the valve making it sticky both times. The computer can't tell how far the valve actually opens, only whether or not there's enough flow.

Honestly? One thing I'd do differently would have been to order a block off for the EGR and disable it with a tune.

MetaJew
Apr 14, 2006
Gather round, one and all, and thrill to my turgid tales of underwhelming misadventure!
That is tempting, but an access port is a little more than I would like to spend right now.

Geoj
May 28, 2008

BITTER POOR PERSON
What's the go-to MT fluid for a 2008.5 MS3? My brother is going to be in town for Christmas and wants to do an oil change & transmission fluid change. I'm pretty sure his car is over 70k miles on what we assume is the factory transmission fluid.

MetaJew
Apr 14, 2006
Gather round, one and all, and thrill to my turgid tales of underwhelming misadventure!
I bought the unicorn piss Ford MT when I changed mine at about 30k. I found it harder to shift and noisier than the factory fluid. I'll probably change it again when I do my brakes, coolant an and EGR since in just at 60k now. I'll probably use the Mazda OEM coolant and MT fluid this time around.

Hit an Apex
Dec 2, 2004

Real Racing. Real Sport.
Dealer is getting me a new gas tank. Video rendition: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnsTWu0GGBg

They said their was "some sort of TSB," in the mean time they picked up a rental which was nice of them.

IOwnCalculus
Apr 2, 2003





I used the XT-M5-QS (I think that's it, the "magical Ford" fluid) and I was happy with it. However, I didn't notice any big difference in shifting... and the fluid that came out was so similar in condition / smell that I think perhaps the PO had already done it.

opengl
Sep 16, 2010

MetaJew posted:

I bought the unicorn piss Ford MT when I changed mine at about 30k. I found it harder to shift and noisier than the factory fluid. I'll probably change it again when I do my brakes, coolant an and EGR since in just at 60k now. I'll probably use the Mazda OEM coolant and MT fluid this time around.

Yeah I used that stuff too, the only difference I noticed was the diff. was noisier when cold while turning at low speeds.

Geoj
May 28, 2008

BITTER POOR PERSON
The Ford "honey" MTF was my go-to, just wanted to check that there wasn't anything better for the transmission out there.

Found a dealer nearby with 11 quarts in stock @ $21/quart...which isn't too bad when you consider RP Syncromesh is about $16/quart and Motul gear oil is about just as expensive.

Somewhat Heroic
Oct 11, 2007

(Insert Mad Max related text)



In my MS6 I used redline full synthetic 75-90 and it was a marked improvement over the stock fluid particularly in cold Utah winters. When cleaning the egr you need to remove the turbo inlet pipe which is a horrible ugly misshapen piece of plastic and has a vacuum line on a little nipple that has a 110% change of breaking off. Plan on getting a nice COBB silicone inlet pipe which is smoother and let's you hear that sweet turbo spool and whistle better.

MetaJew
Apr 14, 2006
Gather round, one and all, and thrill to my turgid tales of underwhelming misadventure!
I'm crossing my fingers that I can keep the EGR cleaning cheap, and not break the turbo inlet vacuum nipple. Hypothetically, if I do, does it matter if I were to replace it with the Cobb or JBR or some other variant? This isn't like an intake where I would need to immediately tune it or something, right? It's not clear to me if the TIP really has any benefit other than a slightly sturdier fitting and a more attractive engine bay.

That being said, the Cobb office in Austin is maybe a 20 minute drive away, so hopefully they keep those in stock.

Do people use the Redline MT-90 (74W90 GL-4) or MTL (75W80 GL-4). From skimming the Mazdaspeed Forums it sounds like Mazda changed the recommendations from 75W90 in the 1st generation to 75W80 in the second generation.

Previa_fun
Nov 10, 2004

For such a large long-stroke four banger the 2.5 MZR really loves to rev. I love highway on-ramps.

drat I wish I had a Speed3. :v:

IOwnCalculus
Apr 2, 2003





I never broke that nipple on my TIP and I had it off at least three times for sure. Probably more that I'm forgetting.

air-
Sep 24, 2007

Who will win the greatest battle of them all?

MetaJew posted:

I'm crossing my fingers that I can keep the EGR cleaning cheap, and not break the turbo inlet vacuum nipple. Hypothetically, if I do, does it matter if I were to replace it with the Cobb or JBR or some other variant? This isn't like an intake where I would need to immediately tune it or something, right? It's not clear to me if the TIP really has any benefit other than a slightly sturdier fitting and a more attractive engine bay.

That being said, the Cobb office in Austin is maybe a 20 minute drive away, so hopefully they keep those in stock.

Do people use the Redline MT-90 (74W90 GL-4) or MTL (75W80 GL-4). From skimming the Mazdaspeed Forums it sounds like Mazda changed the recommendations from 75W90 in the 1st generation to 75W80 in the second generation.

Call a local Ford dealership nearby and bring the fluid. Saying that since when I had that done, Cobb asked me to bring a fluid I wanted to use if I wanted something that wasn't OEM.

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Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

IOwnCalculus posted:

I never broke that nipple on my TIP and I had it off at least three times for sure. Probably more that I'm forgetting.

I discovered the nipple was broken on mine when we put in the new Corksport intake. Somewhere in my 3rd year of ownership I think.

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