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mcmagic posted:
ty for making the mirror match even uglier
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Hyper genesis hasn't been putting up numbers at no ban modern. Must be too much of a known factor. It's hands down the best goldfish deck I think.
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Dec 4, 2015 18:02
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Snacksmaniac posted:Hyper genesis hasn't been putting up numbers at no ban modern. Must be too much of a known factor. Does it just play out like a Modern Sneak & Show, AKA "ramp into spell that cheats a huge fuckoff creature into play"? Seems like it might be a little more difficult than that since you can't run any cheap ramp for fear of hitting it with Cascade.
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Dec 4, 2015 18:24
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C-Euro posted:Does it just play out like a Modern Sneak & Show, AKA "ramp into spell that cheats a huge fuckoff creature into play"? Seems like it might be a little more difficult than that since you can't run any cheap ramp for fear of hitting it with Cascade. Spirit Guides plus Gemstone Caverns presumably.
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Dec 4, 2015 18:25
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Stoneforge Mystic is a pretty random choice for a promo to begin with. Snapcaster Mage as the GP promo makes like 10 times more sense than Stoneforge Mystic.
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Dec 4, 2015 18:39
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Angry Grimace posted:Stoneforge Mystic is a pretty random choice for a promo to begin with. Snapcaster Mage as the GP promo makes like 10 times more sense than Stoneforge Mystic. Next will be bad art Dark Confidant followed by bad art Goyf and finally bad art Abbot of Keral Keep.
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Dec 4, 2015 18:43
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Angry Grimace posted:Stoneforge Mystic is a pretty random choice for a promo to begin with. Snapcaster Mage as the GP promo makes like 10 times more sense than Stoneforge Mystic. It's also banned in Modern, which makes it weirder.
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Dec 4, 2015 18:46
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Serperoth posted:It's also banned in Modern, which makes it weirder. Please let this mean what I hope it means in January
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Dec 4, 2015 18:50
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I'm really doubtful that ole Misty Stone will be set loose on modern.
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Dec 4, 2015 18:52
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TheKingofSprings posted:Please let this mean what I hope it means in January Ciprian Maricon posted:I'm really doubtful that ole Misty Stone will be set loose on modern. Legacy pro tour obv.
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Dec 4, 2015 18:53
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Ciprian Maricon posted:I'm really doubtful that ole Misty Stone will be set loose on modern. They could ban Batterskull, it's not like that's a card anymore post KoCo Come to think of it, equipment in general sucks in Modern right now.
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Dec 4, 2015 18:53
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TheKingofSprings posted:Please let this mean what I hope it means in January batterskull and griselbrand ban in january? 
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Dec 4, 2015 18:53
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TheKingofSprings posted:Please let this mean what I hope it means in January Yes it means they are banning Splinter Twin. There is no other possible outcome.
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Dec 4, 2015 18:54
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Why does the stoneforge mystic have a staff that looks like a petrified snake, and no actual forges in the art
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Dec 4, 2015 18:58
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GeneX posted:Why does the stoneforge mystic have a staff that looks like a petrified snake, and no actual forges in the art I do not miss Kabira. It is not my forge. My forge is Zendikar, its cliffs my anvils. Wherever I set my tongs and swing my hammer, I bring a bludgeon-wielding germ.
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Dec 4, 2015 19:06
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If you ban Batterskull would SF see all that much play in Modern? I doubt it...
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Dec 4, 2015 19:13
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mcmagic posted:If you ban Batterskull would SF see all that much play in Modern? I doubt it... I'm more afraid of SFM pulling a Jitte than batterskull in legacy.
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Dec 4, 2015 19:15
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Serperoth posted:It's also banned in Modern, which makes it weirder. yeah sfm is relevant in what, legacy and.... cube?
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Dec 4, 2015 19:15
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Chill la Chill posted:I'm more afraid of SFM pulling a Jitte than batterskull in legacy. Depends what deck you're playing obviously but that isn't Modern legal either...
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Dec 4, 2015 19:17
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mcmagic posted:If you ban Batterskull would SF see all that much play in Modern? I doubt it... I could easily see mystic fetching Cranial Platings.
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Dec 4, 2015 19:18
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Bugsy posted:I could easily see mystic fetching Cranial Platings. Ehh that isn't all that broken if you ask me...
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Dec 4, 2015 19:19
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Bugsy posted:I could easily see mystic fetching Cranial Platings. If Affinity wanted that they'd play the W sorcery that does that and not bother playing the extra mana for a 1/2 they can't do much with beyond interact with Battle Cry
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Dec 4, 2015 19:24
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Chill la Chill posted:I'm more afraid of SFM pulling a Jitte than batterskull in legacy. The only decks I get Batterskull against are BUG. Every other deck I either get Jitte or SoFI.
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Dec 4, 2015 19:26
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Bugsy posted:I could easily see mystic fetching Cranial Platings. I'll admit I'm not super familiar with Modern Affinity, but I feel like there are better things for it to do on turn 2 besides dropping a non-artifact, 1-power creature. Is Cranial Plating run in anything besides Affinity?
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Dec 4, 2015 19:27
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TheKingofSprings posted:If Affinity wanted that they'd play the W sorcery that does that and not bother playing the extra mana for a 1/2 they can't do much with beyond interact with Battle Cry the power of sfm + plating would be dropping it into play and also equipping it at instant speed and also beating negate/only being open to being countered once rather than twice idk if that would make it worth it, but it'd definitely be much better
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Dec 4, 2015 19:27
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UberJew posted:the power of sfm + plating would be dropping it into play and also equipping it at instant speed and also beating negate/only being open to being countered once rather than twice That would cost 1WBB and if Affinity's got that kind of coloured mana available then they either got lucky with colours or already lost. Beating Negate is definitely a thing but it's not really a thing worth taking a turn off for as Affinity
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Dec 4, 2015 19:30
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Snacksmaniac posted:Hyper genesis hasn't been putting up numbers at no ban modern. Must be too much of a known factor. What about the blazing shoal infect deck?
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Dec 4, 2015 19:31
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There's two particular reasons why SFM isn't getting unbanned 1) SFM pretty much obliterates the entire design space for equipment being good ever again, 2) You have to simultaneously ban a non-problematic card.
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Dec 4, 2015 19:38
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MCMAGIC: i think painful truths is not good in legacy and am willing to do a bet wherein if by some agreed upon metric it proves to be a real card within 6 months (# of top 8 appearances, but i can't look up an event schedule atm) i will do one of these: 1) post with proper caps and punctuation in the magic thread forever 2) play a major legacy event (SCG open/GP at least) with painful truths (and what the heck narset) in my maindeck and post a trip report on these forums 3) a humorous forums punishment of the threads choosing if you agree to this bet post and dear thread please provide us with stakes
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Dec 4, 2015 19:41
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i will also take this bet with anyone else who feels strongly that painful truths is Good In Legacy and also side action on whether mcmagic will agree
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Dec 4, 2015 19:43
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Angry Grimace posted:There's two particular reasons why SFM isn't getting unbanned 1) SFM pretty much obliterates the entire design space for equipment being good ever again, 2) You have to simultaneously ban a non-problematic card. Stoneforge is banned now and they already obliterated that space. At least that way I could play a sword in modern sometimes.
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Dec 4, 2015 19:43
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black potus posted:MCMAGIC: Sure. It's not going to be a 4 of but I would bet that it will show up in multiple decks in multiple top 8's.
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Dec 4, 2015 19:46
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mcmagic posted:Sure. It's not going to be a 4 of but I would bet that it will show up in multiple decks in multiple top 8's. ok cool. thread help us set terms!
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Dec 4, 2015 19:48
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mcmagic posted:Sure. It's not going to be a 4 of but I would bet that it will show up in multiple decks in multiple top 8's. Awww poo poo we've got a bet Now for the thread to pick the stakes for both parties Personally I'm for gangsines posting with proper punctuation forever
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Dec 4, 2015 19:49
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McMagic, you need to put up some risks if you're taking that bet. Try not to pussy too hard out of this.
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Dec 4, 2015 19:49
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TheKingofSprings posted:Stoneforge is banned now and they already obliterated that space. At least that way I could play a sword in modern sometimes. Except you still have to ban Batterskull, which isn't actually a problematic card that sees some level of play. I guess you could ask the question of how broken Batterskull and SFM are at the same time. Part of me wants to say "not that broken" because modern's pretty biased in favor of "unfair combo poo poo."
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Dec 4, 2015 19:49
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Angry Grimace posted:Except you still have to ban Batterskull, which isn't actually a problematic card that sees some level of play. I guess you could ask the question of how broken Batterskull and SFM are at the same time. Part of me wants to say "not that broken" because modern's pretty biased in favor of "unfair combo poo poo." Batterskull sees near 0 play now that the deck you bring it in for has an incredibly good main deck destruction tool for it
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Dec 4, 2015 19:51
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This seems like a good a reason as any for another legacy thunderdome.
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Dec 4, 2015 19:51
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Angry Grimace posted:Except you still have to ban Batterskull, which isn't actually a problematic card that sees some level of play. I guess you could ask the question of how broken Batterskull and SFM are at the same time. Part of me wants to say "not that broken" because modern's pretty biased in favor of "unfair combo poo poo." It would be like Deathrite, It's not broken per se but it would basically force every single fair deck in the format to play it.
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black potus posted:3) a humorous forums punishment of the threads choosing I still think the loser should have their name changed to Painful Truths and have their picture changed to its art. Angry Grimace posted:There's two particular reasons why SFM isn't getting unbanned 1) SFM pretty much obliterates the entire design space for equipment being good ever again, 2) You have to simultaneously ban a non-problematic card. Why? This is a format where for some reason a turn 2, 1 mana 4/5 Azure Mage is just fine. Given that, I don't see why a turn 3, 4 mana over 2 turns, 4/4 vigilance, lifelink creature that dies to Bolt, Clique, Thoughtseize, Duress, and artifact hate is really that big of a deal? And it looks like they've already given up on printing halfway decent equipment. I don't think anything has been even close to playable since Sword of Feast and Famine. What's the best one we've gotten since then? Godsend? The one that gives +1/+1 fof each color the creature is?
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