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Luigi Thirty posted:MSNBC just broadcast the shooter's mother's SSN and drivers license number on live TV. The FBI and sheriff's department maintain that it's still an active crime scene and nobody should be in there but CNN and MSNBC still think it's ok to tromp around and rifle through whatever wallets they can find. What a poo poo show. Someone's head is gonna roll for this.
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Joementum posted:Sorry cat and dog lovers, the bison is now the national mammal of the US. Where did humans come in.
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FCKGW posted:I'd definitely buy the theory that he was planning something big and snapped at the party so decided to go for it there instead. This is exactly my thoughts. Nothing else seems to make much sense. He was almost surely planning something but this wasn't it
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I guess if you ignore the context of every other terrorist attack over the past few months, everything that ISIS has been saying or doing, the shooter's recent trip to the Middle East, the fact that he grew out his beard, the bomb factory in his house, the go pros, the fact that they deliberately wiped all digital devices the day before, that he's been in some kind of contact with known terror contacts, and that they declared themselves for ISIS, then sure, we really have no idea why. Congrats, you're the liberal version of a climate change denier.
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Luigi Thirty posted:Originally the landlord did supposedly, despite the FBI saying no, you can't do that. Now the landlord said he didn't let them in, they just barged in. Yeah, I saw NBC's Capitol Hill reporter tweet that the landlord let them in, though he's obviously not on the scene. Why wasn't there an officer there securing the scene? Just bizarre.
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So at last, we've found a problem caused by a lack of ethics in journalism.
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euphronius posted:Where did humans come in. Bison are the original native americans 
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Considering that is still a child's home yeah it's really bad imo. Orphan now even.
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Joementum posted:Sorry cat and dog lovers, the bison is now the national mammal of the US. A filthy trash-eating punk bird and a lumbering, majestic idiot we nearly drove to extinction by shooting them from moving vehicles. 
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Fried Chicken posted:That Bush invading Iraq would "send a message" to other powers and get them to abandon their WMD programs was one of the cited rationales for the war. When Libya did this in 2003 it was heralded as a success for this Bush doctrine, and you had commentators singing about how now that Iran had the US Army on its doorstep they would follow suit with their nuclear program. According to the UN report that just came out it may have played some part. It appears Iran did have an active research program attempting to develop a nuclear weapon and that program was mostly shut down by the end of 2003. Whether that was due to their hated enemy (Iraq) disappearing, fear of a US invasion, or purely internal politics is anyone's guess. Maybe some of all of those... if you're Iranian and against wasting money on a nuclear weapons program then having Iraq disappear and the US on your doorstep makes your arguments for "laying low" much stronger. I also find it interesting that the vestiges of their nuclear program were terminated in 2009, after Obama's election. What the report makes clear is that they did in fact have a real nuclear weapons research program, but apparently not one serious enough to attempt to build such a thing. My uneducated guess was they wanted to have a Japanese-like situation where they have all the knowledge, designs, and capability of building one in case it were needed but not actually build one. theblackw0lf posted:Tis the season of miracles. It also re-authorizes the Import-Export Bank. So I'd say a combination of medium and large businesses applying pressure, states and construction companies jonesing for those sweet highway dollars, and the fact that the Tea Party loons are fine hating on banks.
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They just doxxed the suspect's mother. Please tell me someone, anyone is going to be charged with tampering with evidence OR SOMETHING.
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Cool. FourLeaf posted:They just doxxed the suspect's mother. I'd like to see the reporters hit with B&E charges.
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TheDisreputableDog posted:I guess if you ignore the context of every other terrorist attack over the past few months, everything that ISIS has been saying or doing, the shooter's recent trip to the Middle East, the fact that he grew out his beard, the bomb factory in his house, the go pros, the fact that they deliberately wiped all digital devices the day before, that he's been in some kind of contact with known terror contacts, and that they declared themselves for ISIS, then sure, we really have no idea why. So are all workplace shootings terrorism or do you have to be muslim and declare allegiance to ISIS on an alternate facebook account and then delete it first? I'm 100% willing to believe that they may have been planning something, but targeting the people you work with and no one else doesn't scream terrorism to me. Definitely not under the traditional definition. If they'd gone and shot up the nearby mall or done anything else besides go home and chill for a couple of hours I'd be saying something completely different.
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Inside Edition paid $1000 according to MSNBC. Also random members of the public are sneaking in now. One of them literally stole a Popsicle from the freezer and left.
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Luigi Thirty posted:Inside Edition paid $1000 according to MSNBC. Also random members of the public are sneaking in now. One of them literally stole a Popsicle from the freezer and left. No loving way.
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Luigi Thirty posted:Inside Edition paid $1000 according to MSNBC. Also random members of the public are sneaking in now. One of them literally stole a Popsicle from the freezer and left. This is so hosed up.
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Luigi Thirty posted:Inside Edition paid $1000 according to MSNBC. Also random members of the public are sneaking in now. One of them literally stole a Popsicle from the freezer and left.
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Luigi Thirty posted:Inside Edition paid $1000 according to MSNBC. Also random members of the public are sneaking in now. One of them literally stole a Popsicle from the freezer and left. To whom? Some ethically challenged security guard?
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Thump! posted:You're cousin might be a KKK member then. Who the hell likes a KKK page? I posted it in thhe Crazy e-mail forwards thread a few weeks back. On the surface it sounded like typical Tea Party nonsense. Tea Party rhetoric notwithstanding. Then again she's a nutbar so hell if I know.
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fknlo posted:No loving way. 
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JT Jag posted:Ok, this is pretty clearly a problem with the local police not maintaining a crime scene at this point. Why can't the police keep people out? They have arrest powers....
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Luigi Thirty posted:Inside Edition paid $1000 according to MSNBC. Also random members of the public are sneaking in now. One of them literally stole a Popsicle from the freezer and left. Amazing. They eat popsicles like us 
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Orange. The most radical of popsicle flavors.
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FourLeaf posted:How can all the authorities be this incompetent? Strangely, this isn't a problem with the houses of our Christian terrorists
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Can someone please clarify: 1) Is the suspect's home, which couldn't possibly not still be under active investigation, being contaminated by the presence of the public and press? 2) Have their been identified press who have entered the suspect's home (goons have mentioned CNN and Inside Edition)?
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TheDisreputableDog posted:I guess if you ignore the context of every other terrorist attack over the past few months, everything that ISIS has been saying or doing, the shooter's recent trip to the Middle East, the fact that he grew out his beard, the bomb factory in his house, the go pros, the fact that they deliberately wiped all digital devices the day before, that he's been in some kind of contact with known terror contacts, and that they declared themselves for ISIS, then sure, we really have no idea why. I believe they call this the horseshoe effect. In any case I agree, I consider myself a mainstream liberal Democrat and I am not afraid to say that this was very clearly an attack by islamic terrorists. I think it also hurts us as a party when our leaders aren't willing to say such. Like it or not these people, like those in Paris, were motivated by religion; and it doesn't help the U.S., or the world, to deny that. fknlo posted:So are all workplace shootings terrorism or do you have to be muslim and declare allegiance to ISIS on an alternate facebook account and then delete it first? I think they really thought they would get away. They probably intended to get the GoPro video back to their Daesh contact for use in propaganda. Gynocentric Regime fucked around with this message at 19:22 on Dec 4, 2015 |
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I can't even imagine what it's like to be that mother right now. Her son goes crazy and then she gets doxxed on live tv. Holy gently caress that is horrible.
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Joementum posted:Orange. The most radical of popsicle flavors. Is it cream filled?
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Luigi Thirty posted:Strangely, this isn't a problem with the houses of our Christian terrorists But that's the thing, you think they'd be more careful with a SCARY ISLAMIC TERRORIST than a kinda sorta maybe we-just-don't-know-his-motives Christian terrorist
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Mulva posted:I believe they call this the horseshoe effect. In any case I agree, I consider myself a mainstream liberal Democrat and I am not afraid to say that this was very clearly an attack by islamic terrorists. I think it also hurts us as a party when our leaders aren't willing to say such. Like it or not these people, like those in Paris, were motivated by religion; and it doesn't help the U.S., or the world, to deny that. Hillary's pivot makes complete sense now in light of these events, Obama is a bad taste now.
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BetterToRuleInHell posted:Can someone please clarify: Yes and yes. On live TV in fact.
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BetterToRuleInHell posted:Can someone please clarify: Luigi Thirty posted:Yes and yes. On live TV in fact.
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It would be extremely funny if a booby trap leveled the house on live TV.
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Mulva posted:I believe they call this the horseshoe effect. In any case I agree, I consider myself a mainstream liberal Democrat and I am not afraid to say that this was very clearly an attack by islamic terrorists. I think it also hurts us as a party when our leaders aren't willing to say such. Like it or not these people, like those in Paris, were motivated by religion; and it doesn't help the U.S., or the world, to deny that. Yeah, once it came out about the whole online pledge to ISIS thing, I feel safe calling it a terrorist attack. Now, still a rather odd terrorist attack, mind you. Or maybe not so odd; if you want to rack up the body count, and you work at a disabled services center, you already know the layout and you know its not going to offer much resistance. The people saying he was angry because of an argument might have attributed a lot of importance to something after the fact that the guy didn't actually care about.
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All you need to stop this is one police officer and one strip of DO NOT ENTER, POLICE INVESTIGATION tape.
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JT Jag posted:All you need to stop this is one police officer and one strip of DO NOT ENTER, POLICE INVESTIGATION tape. Budget cuts. Thanks Obama.
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Mulva posted:I think it also hurts us as a party when our leaders aren't willing to say such. Like it or not these people, like those in Paris, were motivated by religion; and it doesn't help the U.S., or the world, to deny that.propaganda. How dare elected officials put the safety of innocent Muslims, Hindus and Sikhs who suffer retaliation for this poo poo above "it hurts as a party when we don't say the magic words."
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