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GreyjoyBastard posted:Honestly, I've wondered on several occasions why American terrorism is all about guns and fire and practically never about "stuff a bunch of gunpowder and nails in a pipe or pressure cooker". Lack of knowledge is probably a big factor, as is the mega-easy availability of guns and the untraceability of gasoline. See: OKC, Atlanta Olympic Park
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GreyjoyBastard posted:Honestly, I've wondered on several occasions why American terrorism is all about guns and fire and practically never about "stuff a bunch of gunpowder and nails in a pipe or pressure cooker". Lack of knowledge is probably a big factor, as is the mega-easy availability of guns and the untraceability of gasoline.
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Dec 4, 2015 22:26
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Kafka Esq. posted:Why do your own citizens hate your country so much they shoot it up? Liberals hate this country and would rather see it destroyed than see one person being successful
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Dec 4, 2015 22:26
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A Winner is Jew posted:http://nypost.com/2015/12/03/california-massacre-victim-ranted-about-muslims-on-facebook/ http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-san-bernardino-shooting-victims-htmlstory.html#nicholas-thalasinos His wife stated that they seemed to get along though...
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Dec 4, 2015 22:27
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:See: OKC, Atlanta Olympic Park I mean, it happens, but it's infrequent. Or maybe we just have the regular number of bombings (and arsons) and just get a lot of bonus shootings free of charge. 
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A Winner is Jew posted:http://nypost.com/2015/12/03/california-massacre-victim-ranted-about-muslims-on-facebook/  Unfortunately, there’s a lot of extremism coming from all areas. It’s one of the biggest problems that I think is threatening to — to tear our country apart. We — we get into our separate corners and we hate each other, we want to destroy those with whom we disagree. It comes from both sides. So, you know, there is — there is no saint here in this — in this equation. But what we really have to start asking ourselves is what can we do as a nation to rectify this situation? How can we begin to engage in rational discussion? You know, all you have to do is go to the — an article on the Internet and go to the comments section, you don’t get five comments down before people start calling each other names and acting like idiots, you know.
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A Winner is Jew posted:http://nypost.com/2015/12/03/california-massacre-victim-ranted-about-muslims-on-facebook/ In a just world, we'd learn a lesson from this and be better to our fellow human beings. But it's not, so no one will hear about this and we'll be learning that "that guy was right!" instead.
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GreyjoyBastard posted:Honestly, I've wondered on several occasions why American terrorism is all about guns and fire and practically never about "stuff a bunch of gunpowder and nails in a pipe or pressure cooker". Lack of knowledge is probably a big factor, as is the mega-easy availability of guns and the untraceability of gasoline. Successful terrorism is never about pipe bombs, but a few are defused every year.
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karlor posted:http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-san-bernardino-shooting-victims-htmlstory.html#nicholas-thalasinos Well yeah, I mean most people don't speak ill of the dead, specially their dead husband.
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Trabisnikof posted:How can we begin to engage in rational discussion? the internet has just allowed people who would have never agreed irl to find each other and argue bitterly, with typos and poo poo arguments it's nothing new, just more exposed
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Trabisnikof posted:
Honestly I don't think it can be fixed, there are far too many ideologies who believe that nothing in the world matters and it's all a test for the afterlife. ComradeCosmobot posted:In a just world, we'd learn a lesson from this and be better to our fellow human beings. As long as someone is just speaking they cannot be held accountable when a religious extremist decides to kill them for it. The lesson shouldn't be, "Don't speak out, or you might die." it should be "Don't kill people, even if they disagree with you." Gynocentric Regime fucked around with this message at 22:34 on Dec 4, 2015 |
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karlor posted:http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-san-bernardino-shooting-victims-htmlstory.html#nicholas-thalasinos And then not two sentences later: "She described her husband as very outspoken about Islamic terrorism, with strong conservative politics." She may well be covering him the same way we all look at our relatives and loved ones with rose-colored glasses.
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A Winner is Jew posted:Well yeah, I mean most people don't speak ill of the dead, specially their dead husband. If they could get a screenshot from his facebook from 2013 then why didn't they show a screenshot of the more recent rant?
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Mulva posted:Honestly I don't think it can be fixed, there are far too many ideologies who believe that nothing in the world matters and it's all a test for the afterlife. THey are correct.
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ComradeCosmobot posted:And then not two sentences later: "She described her husband as very outspoken about Islamic terrorism, with strong conservative politics." Well, if this is true: quote:Nicholas Thalasinos, a devout Zionist, became furious with Syed Rizwan Farook, a fellow restaurant inspector, during work, declaring that the Muslim man “doesn’t agree that Islam is not a peaceful religion.” It really wraps this all up in a ball of sad.
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Trabisnikof posted:Well, if this is true: Hate breeds hate.
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ComradeCosmobot posted:And then not two sentences later: "She described her husband as very outspoken about Islamic terrorism, with strong conservative politics." I understand what you're getting at, but I would rather trust the wife's account than that of the loving New York Post. Unless the New York Post can post evidence of the facebook interaction they're reporting, I'm not going to believe them. karlor fucked around with this message at 22:45 on Dec 4, 2015 |
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Dec 4, 2015 22:38
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Fried Chicken posted:Do you even follow this thread? Way more than I'd like to admit in public. I like the drinking games.
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mcmagic posted:Hate breeds hate. And the number of people who have been drawn to Thalasinos's viewpoint is far greater than that drawn to Syed's as a result. So the cycle begins anew.
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If I can interrupt for a second, I'd like to invite you all to stare deep into the well of forced, awkward horror that is Ted Cruz trying to appear human. And if that isn't enough, there is somehow sixteen hours of rehearsed lines and emotionless hugs to drown in.
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Zombie Samurai posted:If I can interrupt for a second, I'd like to invite you all to stare deep into the well of forced, awkward horror that is Ted Cruz trying to appear human. This is the political campaign equivalent of a dead drop- this footage is intended to be cherrypicked by PACs for TV ads, but they can't actually say that because it would be illegal coordination.
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Trabisnikof posted:Well, if this is true: As soon as I saw the picture of the super-Jewish dude as one of the victims, I just knew that must have been the powder. Also jeet christ at Faarooq pretty literally doing the "ISLAM IS A PEACEFUL RELIGION DAMMIT, LOOK HOW PEACEFUL IT IS *guns down entire Christmas party*" gambit.
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karlor posted:I understand what you're getting at, but I would rather trust the wife's account than that of the loving New York Post. http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/downashore/San-Bernardino-victim-had-been-Cape-May-County-inspector.html Another link to basically the same thing from a different news org then. All I'm saying is that the victim was no angel.  (sorry)
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Trabisnikof posted:It comes from both sides. So, you know, there is — there is no saint here in this — in this equation. That was fast.
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A Winner is Jew posted:http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/downashore/San-Bernardino-victim-had-been-Cape-May-County-inspector.html quote:According to a Go Fund Me page set up for the victim's wife, the two met in an online chat room for fans of the TV show "Beauty and the Beast". They shared their love for science fiction and fantasy and had a very deep, spiritual relationship," the page says. 
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TheDisreputableDog posted:That was fast. Who says Ben Carson is slow?
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Meg From Family Guy posted:Liberals hate this country and would rather see it destroyed than see one person being successful Meg From Family Guy posted:THey are correct. A shameful troll.
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A Winner is Jew posted:http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/downashore/San-Bernardino-victim-had-been-Cape-May-County-inspector.html the article you just posted posted:Jennifer Thalasinos told the New York Times that her husband was friendly with Farook and given her no indication that anything was amiss with Farook.
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Regarding religion and terrorism: some of us remember when "peace in the Mideast" was "peace in Northern Ireland and the Mideast." It's actually remarkable how much progress has been made in Northern Ireland. But when I was 18 (1999), I wrote a story about a terrorist blowing up a car bomb in Washington. Said fictional terrorist was Irish. This was still topical. "Oh those crazy Protestants/Catholics" was just as big a refrain as "oh those crazy Muslims" 16 years ago.
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Conservative ideology to blame for another mass shooting.
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TheDisreputableDog posted:Conservative ideology to blame for another mass shooting. Hey look your not wrong for once.
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Yeah, and Farook was by all accounts a quiet guy so again not surprising that they never got into it.
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:I feel like the victims of Oklahoma City would disagree with you. Wait, are you including McVeigh's bomb in the "radical christian" terrorism? Because dude was an atheist who hated the government. And we had that other atheist who murdered those three muslim kids over a parking spot. Maybe we're all looking at the wrong belief system here guys.
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spacetoaster posted:Wait, are you including McVeigh's bomb in the "radical christian" terrorism? Because dude was an atheist who hated the government. I said Right Wing Extremists. There's a good deal of overlap there.
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So... that's probably it then, isn't it? I mean there's no way this isn't going to get spun as "ISIS attack on American soil, arm the entire populace and throw Muslims in camps while we invade five countries at once under Presidente (oh God probably trump)", right? In other words, I'm afraid this is the point where America actually surrenders to extremism to save ourselves from extremism. Not to be a pessimist or anything.
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hakkart posted:So... that's probably it then, isn't it? I mean there's no way this isn't going to get spun as "ISIS attack on American soil, arm the entire populace and throw Muslims in camps while we invade five countries at once under Presidente (oh God probably trump)", right? whats it like posting from october 2001
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spacetoaster posted:Wait, are you including McVeigh's bomb in the "radical christian" terrorism? Because dude was an atheist who hated the government. He's ethnically Christian.
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