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Adiabatic
Nov 18, 2007

What have you assholes done now?

Safety Dance posted:

Local minima can look an awful lot like global minima on the right scale.

Agreed. Dude bro needs to zoom out a ways

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Lightbulb Out
Apr 28, 2006

slack jawed yokel
A shart is when a fart surprises you with poop. She is technically correct that it is in fact making GBS threads your pants.

Liquid Communism
Mar 9, 2004

коммунизм хранится в яичках

kastein posted:

Oh god it's the holiday season and I am in no way prepared for this :aaaaa: so much for getting much of anything done on the house or cars in the next few weeks.


I am gonna grab one of those A-118-Cs. I tried the G1W everyone likes and it died in a couple months of boring DDing in my Forester, then tried the Cobra that ExpiredPopsicle suggested since it'd survived the apocalypse in his CJ and it died in a few hours. I expect the A-118-C to last maybe a week, again, in a Forester being daily driven. Somehow I'm like, toxic to dashcams or something. I just want to record my drives in case someone does something stupid :sigh:


Hey shut up don't bring logic and reason into this.


And we dislike smug pro-gun-ban people smugging the gently caress out about poo poo they don't understand just as much.

poo poo, my GF (who is probably more liberal than many here, voted for Obama twice, and is probably voting for Sanders this time around) got her Mass LTC-A ALP within weeks of moving out here and owns more guns than me, which is to say, she owns a gun. I've been dragging my feet on going through the licensing process for five years now and own zero, I just get annoyed when people who have zero experience in the matter decide they are experts and want to ban poo poo I enjoy.

On that note, if anyone wants to hear what I have to say about evil scary guns, go read my post from last time I ranted about this in a chat thread, it hasn't changed. Otherwise, feel free to continue having the same opinion you had beforehand and I'll do the same :tipshat:

Also, here is a pretty solid, fairly well balanced take on the whole thing. http://imgur.com/gallery/bW1Ds

Solid and well balanced take if you discount the usual intellectual dishonesty of claiming suicide numbers as part of gun crime statistics and then basing all their rhetoric on tougher laws on crime. But that's a pet peeve of mine.

Wrar
Sep 9, 2002


Soiled Meat

Super Aggro Crag posted:

I stopped blazing when I saw this job posting 10 days ago. They gott do a backround check on me which will take about 2 weeks. I'm not chancing poo poo. I am saying that between 24 days of not smoking and taking the detox drink as well I should be fine.

Good luck, I hope you get the job. Fiber seems like it's going to stay for the next 10 years or so.

Siochain
May 24, 2005

"can they get rid of any humans who are fans of shitheads like Kanye West, 50 Cent, or any other piece of crap "artist" who thinks they're all that?

And also get rid of anyone who has posted retarded shit on the internet."


Lightbulb Out posted:

A shart is when a fart surprises you with poop. She is technically correct that it is in fact making GBS threads your pants.

Doesn't need to be a full-on pants-making GBS threads though. A shart could just be a fart with enough friends that you need to cleanse yourself.
I mean, its leaky headgasket vs. full-blown main seal. They're both bad, but one you hopefully have enough time to get home before you need to call a friend.

SUSE Creamcheese
Apr 11, 2007

Wrar posted:

Good luck, I hope you get the job. Fiber seems like it's going to stay for the next 10 years or so.

Probably more like the next hundred. :v:

Pham Nuwen
Oct 30, 2010



kastein posted:

It's simply a condensed or frozen fart; a fart that was a bit more than you bargained for.

Whether it was intentional or not is entirely irrelevant IMO.

Never over-trust a fart.

When you trusted a fart, my friends and I would call it "gambling", e.g. "Oops, just gambled and lost"

For this reason my friend's car was dubbed "Dan's Casino on Wheels" while on roadtrips.

Super Aggro Crag
Apr 23, 2008




And, of course as always, kill Hitler.


Wrar posted:

Good luck, I hope you get the job. Fiber seems like it's going to stay for the next 10 years or so.

Thanks. Had my hand in fiber for 5 years now but mostly at an apprentice level so it will be great to become an expert. It will also be great on my back to sit down or chill in a bucket all day instead of busting my rear end pulling cable and hauling around heavy rear end poo poo all day.

My mom just came over with some homemade turkey soup and Canada Dry and asked if I was going through weed withdrawl. :classiclol: Love that lady to death.

Kia Soul Enthusias
May 9, 2004

zoom-zoom
Toilet Rascal

Wrar posted:

Good luck, I hope you get the job. Fiber seems like it's going to stay for the next 10 years or so.

Is something replacing fiber?

Applebees Appetizer
Jan 23, 2006

It's ok to run a car for a bit with the accessory belts off right? I need to pinpoint a belt whine problem which I'm pretty sure now is the timing belt, I just need to make sure for like 2.2 seconds. I'm thinking I let it cool down so it doesn't really need the water pump for a bit.

Raluek
Nov 3, 2006

WUT.

leica posted:

It's ok to run a car for a bit with the accessory belts off right? I need to pinpoint a belt whine problem which I'm pretty sure now is the timing belt, I just need to make sure for like 2.2 seconds. I'm thinking I let it cool down so it doesn't really need the water pump for a bit.

Yeah it'll be fine for maybe a minute or two. The main problem is that the water pump won't turn, but I really doubt you'll get enough heat into the water jacket from idling for tens of seconds to cause damage to anything.

Super Aggro Crag
Apr 23, 2008




And, of course as always, kill Hitler.


On the subject of sharting... I just sharted. These 800mg Ibuprofen pills are wreaking havoc on me for some reason.

Preoptopus
Aug 25, 2008

Три полоски,
три по три полоски
One of the few decent things my ex ever did for me was come through on some new pants when one slipped at work one day... Ill never forget her for that.

mariooncrack
Dec 27, 2008
I won an ipad mini at work and found out I'm getting a promotion.

Today has been good so far.

iwentdoodie
Apr 29, 2005

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Super Aggro Crag posted:

On the subject of sharting... I just sharted. These 800mg Ibuprofen pills are wreaking havoc on me for some reason.

Muscle relaxers did it to me. Thought it was a fart but nope. Little bit of liquid.

Another shart is also why I have this username, so hey. 15 god drat years and I still haven't lived it down, but whatever. Farts is funny, yo.

Applebees Appetizer
Jan 23, 2006

Raluek posted:

Yeah it'll be fine for maybe a minute or two. The main problem is that the water pump won't turn, but I really doubt you'll get enough heat into the water jacket from idling for tens of seconds to cause damage to anything.

Ok it's not the timing belt thank god, is it possible it's just a lovely quality belt making noise?

This issue is driving me nuts and I'm about to start breaking poo poo.

iwentdoodie
Apr 29, 2005

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leica posted:

Ok it's not the timing belt thank god, is it possible it's just a lovely quality belt making noise?

This issue is driving me nuts and I'm about to start breaking poo poo.

Sorry if I missed it, but what kind of noise is it? And what circumstances?

Super Aggro Crag
Apr 23, 2008




And, of course as always, kill Hitler.


iwentdoodie posted:

Muscle relaxers did it to me. Thought it was a fart but nope. Little bit of liquid.

Another shart is also why I have this username, so hey. 15 god drat years and I still haven't lived it down, but whatever. Farts is funny, yo.

Luckily this didn't happen to me this week while I was taking a bunch of Soma. Tonight will probably be the first time in 5+ years I spent a weekend night sober. Considering all my roommates and GF are busy tonight it will be kind of a struggle. Maybe I'll just take this PM sinus medicine soon and try to fall asleep early.

Applebees Appetizer
Jan 23, 2006

iwentdoodie posted:

Sorry if I missed it, but what kind of noise is it? And what circumstances?

I've talked about it in my shitbox thread......Whining high pitched supercharger noise that increases under acceleration, doesn't matter how much I tighten or loosen it, it just keeps whining and driving me insane. Maybe it would be cool if it actually sounded like a real supercharger, but it sounds more like a vacuum cleaner. I'm thinking about getting a different better brand of belt and seeing if that works.

iwentdoodie
Apr 29, 2005

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leica posted:

I've talked about it in my shitbox thread......Whining high pitched supercharger noise that increases under acceleration, doesn't matter how much I tighten or loosen it, it just keeps whining and driving me insane. Maybe it would be cool if it actually sounded like a real supercharger, but it sounds more like a vacuum cleaner. I'm thinking about getting a different better brand of belt and seeing if that works.

Is everything it runs new? I'd try belt first, but that sounds almost like bearings to me. Something it's turning going bad.

The shitbox protege I had on Guam had that noise right before the water pump seized.

Applebees Appetizer
Jan 23, 2006

Well that's the only possibility, the water pump is probably the original....It spins ok though so I dunno. What did yours do before it took a poo poo and what failed? How am i supposed to diagnose it?

[e] How freely should it spin? I have no clue if it's spinning like it should be.

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Apr 29, 2005

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leica posted:

Well that's the only possibility, the water pump is probably the original....It spins ok though so I dunno. What did yours do before it took a poo poo and what failed? How am i supposed to diagnose it?

Made that noise, then made a REALLY loud loving bang when it seized, then pissed coolant everywhere.

The lovely thing is other than replacing it, I can't think of a way to diagnose. Could also be idler, or really anything in the belt path.

Trying a better belt is the easiest and cheapest diagnostic tool though.

literally a fish
Oct 2, 2014

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leica posted:

I've talked about it in my shitbox thread......Whining high pitched supercharger noise that increases under acceleration, doesn't matter how much I tighten or loosen it, it just keeps whining and driving me insane. Maybe it would be cool if it actually sounded like a real supercharger, but it sounds more like a vacuum cleaner. I'm thinking about getting a different better brand of belt and seeing if that works.

Old Miata? It's probably a dodgy bearing on one of the accessory-belt-driven things, that's what had my friend's 1989 NA making the same exact noise (bad alternator bearing) - someone mentioned earlier about taking the belt off and checking to see if you can make any of the pulleys wobble, which may indicate which one is the problem.

BrokenKnucklez
Apr 22, 2008

by zen death robot

iwentdoodie posted:

Muscle relaxers did it to me. Thought it was a fart but nope. Little bit of liquid.

Another shart is also why I have this username, so hey. 15 god drat years and I still haven't lived it down, but whatever. Farts is funny, yo.

Antihistamines make me shart. I never trust a fart when I am on those fuckers.

Adiabatic
Nov 18, 2007

What have you assholes done now?

leica posted:

[e] How freely should it spin? I have no clue if it's spinning like it should be.

If you feel any gravel, non-uniform resistance, or catching, replace it.

If there's a decent amount of axial or longitudinal runout, replace it.

Applebees Appetizer
Jan 23, 2006

It's an old Protege. WP pulley doesn't wobble at all, spins ok, little resistance but that seems normal, right?

The thing is the noise didn't start until I installed the new belts, what are the odds that the WP decides to poo poo right when i put new belts on?

Adiabatic posted:

If you feel any gravel, non-uniform resistance, or catching, replace it.

If there's a decent amount of axial or longitudinal runout, replace it.

Nothing of the first sentence, but what do you mean by axial/longitudinal runout?

[e] I compered the resistance to a new WP I have for the Miata and it's pretty much the same so it's normal I guess.

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iwentdoodie
Apr 29, 2005

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Does it wobble in any fashion?

And doesn't have to be the WP. Idlers are also a common issue.

Edit: again, belt is always an option and its the cheapest. This is all just "well, if it's not...."

literally a fish
Oct 2, 2014

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leica posted:

It's an old Protege. WP pulley doesn't wobble at all, spins ok, little resistance but that seems normal, right?

The thing is the noise didn't start until I installed the new belts, what are the odds that the WP decides to poo poo right when i put new belts on?

Nothing of the first sentence, but what do you mean by axial/longitudinal runout?

Higher than you might think - new belt may hold tension better than old belt and be applying more axial force to the pulleys.

Axial/longitudinal runout = how far the pulley wobbles left/right (axial) and slides forward/back (longitudinal)

New belt may also just be squeaky. Do you still have the old belt? if so, maybe try swapping it back on?

Some resistance is to be expected, as long as it's consistent and smooth the whole way around and doesn't wobble/slide even the tiniest bit. Check the PS pump too if it has PS.

Sinestro
Oct 31, 2010

The perfect day needs the perfect set of wheels.

Adiabatic posted:

BrokenKnucklez posted:

Antihistamines make me shart. I never trust a fart when I am on those fuckers.

If you feel any gravel, non-uniform resistance, or catching

Applebees Appetizer
Jan 23, 2006

There's no accessory idler, and it's not the TB idler, the TB assembly didn't make the noise when I ran it without the belts.

Pulley doesn't wobble or slide at all. No typical bad bearing movement.

Old belt was glazed and stretched out too much, it got trashed.

PS pump got eliminated when I ran just the alt belt. The belts go alt/wp then ac/ps.

literally a fish
Oct 2, 2014

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leica posted:

There's no accessory idler, and it's not the TB idler, the TB assembly didn't make the noise when I ran it without the belts.

Pulley doesn't wobble or slide at all. No typical bad bearing movement.

Old belt was glazed and stretched out too much, it got trashed.

PS pump got eliminated when I ran just the alt belt. The belts go alt/wp then ac/ps.

Well, it's pretty much gotta be belt, WP, or alternator. Belt is easiest to replace so I'd give that a go (and triple check the tension spec), then alternator (easier than WP), then WP :v:

Super Aggro Crag
Apr 23, 2008




And, of course as always, kill Hitler.


I can't stand that most of my friends are middle school teachers. I have to listen to their lovely stories about their lovely students every loving day. And if I try to talk about work they just dismiss it.

iwentdoodie
Apr 29, 2005

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Super Aggro Crag posted:

I can't stand that most of my friends are middle school teachers. I have to listen to their lovely stories about their lovely students every loving day. And if I try to talk about work they just dismiss it.

You do realize this same phenomenon is why you catch 90% of the poo poo you do here, right?

And leica: yeah, I'd throw a good brand belt on and make sure the tension is right, then go from there. It should be immediately obvious.

shy boy from chess club
Jun 11, 2008

It wasnt that bad, after you left I got to help put out the fire!

Im sitting here mourning Scott Weiland. Blasting a copy of Purple that one of my best buds burned for me near the end of the 90s when burned CDs were a big deal. Today I actually feel old. STP was my favorite of the grunge bands. I just made a post that was better than this one about the same thing like 5 minutes ago and it disappeared into the internet void. gently caress. I used to joke about feeling old but today was the day it really sunk in. Rip Scott Weiland. Still Remains is one of the best 90s songs ever :(

literally a fish
Oct 2, 2014

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SOUND THE ALARM!

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NEW PROJECT BINKY

Elmnt80
Dec 30, 2012


leica posted:

There's no accessory idler, and it's not the TB idler, the TB assembly didn't make the noise when I ran it without the belts.

Pulley doesn't wobble or slide at all. No typical bad bearing movement.

Old belt was glazed and stretched out too much, it got trashed.

PS pump got eliminated when I ran just the alt belt. The belts go alt/wp then ac/ps.

If the belt was glazed, its entirely likely that one of the pulleys is glazed too and thats where you're having the squealing. After replacing the belt that came on the truck new, the squeaking started back up after a week or so until I replaced the tensioner pulley and idler pulley.

mafoose
Oct 30, 2006

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Woot posting from a fresh Win10 install on my new SSD and videocard.
Waiting for steam games to migrate, then I'm going to play something!

leica posted:

It's ok to run a car for a bit with the accessory belts off right? I need to pinpoint a belt whine problem which I'm pretty sure now is the timing belt, I just need to make sure for like 2.2 seconds. I'm thinking I let it cool down so it doesn't really need the water pump for a bit.

When you end up having to do the timing belt, it's stupid easy. If I had the time to do it in one sitting, it'd be about 2 hours. Make sure you have some high-tac and a new water pump when you do it, and remove the idler for the A/C (if it equipped) from the block.
My 323 is now completely leak free!

shy boy from chess club
Jun 11, 2008

It wasnt that bad, after you left I got to help put out the fire!

Elmnt80 posted:

If the belt was glazed, its entirely likely that one of the pulleys is glazed too and thats where you're having the squealing. After replacing the belt that came on the truck new, the squeaking started back up after a week or so until I replaced the tensioner pulley and idler pulley.

Roughing up the pulley with some sandpaper or a wire wheel should work to get rid of the glaze though. Ive had to do that on my lawnmowers a bunch of times to get rid of belt slippage and noise.

Seat Safety Switch
May 27, 2008

MY RELIGION IS THE SMALL BLOCK V8 AND COMMANDMENTS ONE THROUGH TEN ARE NEVER LIFT.

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Fart Pipe posted:

Roughing up the pulley with some sandpaper or a wire wheel should work to get rid of the glaze though. Ive had to do that on my lawnmowers a bunch of times to get rid of belt slippage and noise.

He did that when he swapped the belts the first time, didn't help.

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Applebees Appetizer
Jan 23, 2006

Yeah I did that and actually thought it might have been causing the issue :v:

Just got a new Dayco belt that looks much better quality that the lovely $5 belt I got initially. Hoping this will do the trick.

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