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DJ Dizzy posted:Guys. Stop me. Now I want a ravenguard army Buy a Night Lords army instead.
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SRM posted:Okay. Don't buy a Raven Guard army. Can't so no to those rending power claws though!
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DJ Dizzy posted:Is the Emperor in reality Bernie Sanders coming down from the heavens (vermont) to save us all in this time of need? Or is he more like Donald Trump spouting bullshit? Neither the Emperor is actually Kenneth from 30 Rock.
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DJ Dizzy posted:Guys. Stop me. Now I want a ravenguard army One of the best loyalist legions with good rules and great specialist units? Yeah, you're right, you should play a real (IE- Traitor) legion instead.
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Dec 5, 2015 20:52
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Safety Factor posted:
Allegiance: Traitoris Perdita
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Safety Factor posted:
Don't worry, you have years of precedent to ease your fears.
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I think the Dork Angels scheme is actually a bit lazy. As if there aren't enough black armoured Loyalist space marines around.
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Recoome posted:I think the Dork Angels scheme is actually a bit lazy. As if there aren't enough black armoured Loyalist space marines around. Same but with every traitor staying/going red.
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Recoome posted:I think the Dork Angels scheme is actually a bit lazy. As if there aren't enough black armoured Loyalist space marines around.  I prefer dark green to black so if I ever wind up actually making a 30k Dark Angels army I'll probably be using it as an accent somewhere. I like the red wings and checker pattern though. Gives the scheme something to work with.
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DJ Dizzy posted:The red mechanicum book. Basically, you lay the 7-inch blast template down, and then move it straight ahead 72". EVERYTHING under it takes a hit, str depending on what sort of model. Infantry takes a S5 hit, monstrous creatures S8, vehicles S10 and superheavies the D. Ignores cover, instant death, do not pass go. Its also sporting three Volkite Culverins for soft targets. Also I think the template crosses the table regardless of distance. The 72" one is the alternate weapon.
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Dec 6, 2015 00:32
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Recoome posted:I think the Dork Angels scheme is actually a bit lazy. As if there aren't enough black armoured Loyalist space marines around. Unfortunately, that's been established as their pre-Heresy scheme for a long time.
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TKIY posted:Its also sporting three Volkite Culverins for soft targets. 72" for the beam hitting absolutely everything it crosses including flyers. The volcano cannon is 180".
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Dec 6, 2015 00:41
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Hencoe posted:72" for the beam hitting absolutely everything it crosses including flyers. The volcano cannon is 180". Okay sorry I had them backwards. Still it's a big-bada-boom.
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Are the people writing this up not allowed to use the same descriptor for two different legions' loyalties so they have to crack open the dog-latin thesaurus each time?
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Space Wolves in light grey actually look really good, and that black marble trim for the angels is pimping.
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Space Wolves are so Khornate it's not even funny. Right down to the hatred of psykers
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TKIY posted:Okay sorry I had them backwards. Still it's a big-bada-boom. Yeah, it's awesome, and taking part of my tax refund this year.
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Recoome posted:Space Wolves are so Khornate it's not even funny. Right down to the hatred of psykers But not rune priests. Who are totally not psykers, no sir.
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Cythereal posted:But not rune priests. Who are totally not psykers, no sir. The only moral psyker is my psyker. -Half the Imperium, apparently.
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Where are all these new chapter splash-pages coming from? New HH book on the horizon? If so, any clue of the release date?
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Germ posted:Where are all these new chapter splash-pages coming from? New HH book on the horizon? If so, any clue of the release date? Posters at Warhammer World. And to preempt the question, the new book coming out in February has nothing to do with Thousand Sons/Space Wolves. What's in though is: New rites for existing legions. Kakophoni-booster for EC, hoarded/stolen/diverted supplies giving SoH limited twin-linked, Iron Warriors charging past their own artillery shells crashing around them. That last one is kind of hilarious. Legion rules + rite(s) for Blood Angels, Dark Angels, White Scars. Meaning no units, just the basics to run your legion. Rules for playing as Blackshields (banded loyalists from traitor legions) and Shattered Legions (banded marines of various provenance that have given up or gone rogue). Rules for Knight-Errants (proto Grey Knights). Not sure if there's more than just Garro planned for the book though.
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I hope there's a loyalist Word Bearers Rite. Out of all the rogue members of loyalist legions and loyal members of rogue legions, I find the idea of loyalist Word Bearers the most interesting because the pre-Monarchia Word Bearers would fit in perfectly in the 40k Imperium and indeed be highly lauded for it. Loyalist Word Bearer legionnaires would be an amazingly smug bunch of I-told-you-so.
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Word Bearers are the legion which created 40k
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Yeah, thought the fluff always stated that every single Word Bearer was converted to Chaos or murdered before the Heresy, hence their Chaplains becoming Dark Apostles and whatnot. An interesting idea but there probably wouldn't be enough of them to fill a Rhino never-mind a fighting force. Would be the smuggest Rhino going though.
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I'm gettin real sick of gal vorbak, like 5 or 6 of the local guys getting into heresy are playing word bearers, and they all (obviously) have gal vorbak, and I'm the guy trying to get the community going so I'm playing everyone. Just ugh.
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SteelMentor posted:Yeah, thought the fluff always stated that every single Word Bearer was converted to Chaos or murdered before the Heresy, hence their Chaplains becoming Dark Apostles and whatnot. An interesting idea but there probably wouldn't be enough of them to fill a Rhino never-mind a fighting force. Would be the smuggest Rhino going though. There's already been a loyalist Word Bearer in one of the Horus Heresy novels. According to him, while most of the legion did convert the Emperor-worshipers simply went underground with their cult.
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Hencoe posted:I'm gettin real sick of gal vorbak, like 5 or 6 of the local guys getting into heresy are playing word bearers, and they all (obviously) have gal vorbak, and I'm the guy trying to get the community going so I'm playing everyone. Dont play with WAAC players. Ever.
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DJ Dizzy posted:Dont play with WAAC players. Ever. Word Bearer's coolest unit is the Gal Vorbak. How does taking them make you WAAC?
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Cythereal posted:There's already been a loyalist Word Bearer in one of the Horus Heresy novels. According to him, while most of the legion did convert the Emperor-worshipers simply went underground with their cult. I stand corrected. I haven't really kept up with the Word Bearers as I find them boring as tar, but if they do more with that little loyalist cell I might turn around. DJ Dizzy posted:Dont play with WAAC players. Ever. Guessing Hencoe's more sick of facing what's essentially the same list over and over again than his opponents being WAACs. Gal Vorbak are tasty but Plasma deals with them almost as well as it deals with regular Marines, they ain't the cheesiest thing going. Still, it must suck to have a local meta like that, could easily work to stagnate and kill the scene.
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Its just a lot of the same stuff, why I'm trying to get more people into it. A lot of folks got the calth set from the local shops and are starting to get their stuff up and running. While its a nice change from up until now where it was only 4 people including myself, in this section of the state that played. Just playing against so many of them gets old. (gal vorbak are cool as hell though.) I've started deliberately bringing varied lists for them all to play against, although its hard to let go of my siege tyrants. Helping a store in town get a 30k league going so folks have a defined goal to have stuff together and painted, book 6 is going to be a godsend since a few want to play their blood angels, dark angels, white scars and such with more than "stubborn or furious charge"
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LordAba posted:Word Bearer's coolest unit is the Gal Vorbak. How does taking them make you WAAC? because they are also really, really, really good, and probably a reason why people are choosing to play word bearers Hencoe posted:Helping a store in town get a 30k league going so folks have a defined goal to have stuff together and painted, book 6 is going to be a godsend since a few want to play their blood angels, dark angels, white scars and such with more than "stubborn or furious charge" legiones astartes: dark angels all units with this special rule get stubborn and furious charge
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Hencoe posted:...Helping a store in town get a 30k league going so folks have a defined goal to have stuff together and painted, book 6 is going to be a godsend since a few want to play their blood angels, dark angels, white scars and such with more than "stubborn or furious charge"... The same thing is going on in my area with a few peculiar individuals.The Dark Angels guy refuses to play until he gets rules for his Primarch which he insists he's going to take in every game, and the Blood Angel stalwart isn't going to play until he gets official legion rules, mainly because he wants to use his own that have no drawbacks at all (Furious Charge, +1int, Crusader, Counter Attack and re-rolls in challenges). Mostly loyalits armies being select as well (Myself Included  ), but at least there is a new Word Bearers, Sons of Horus and an Emperor's Children player now. I'll have to start playing my Imperial Fists as Alpha Legion or something.
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A 50S RAYGUN posted:because they are also really, really, really good, and probably a reason why people are choosing to play word bearers Helps that they have a pretty neat story in one of the Horus Heresy novels, one of the very few legion-specific units to have actual fluff and story role in any of the books.
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DJ Dizzy posted:Dont play with WAAC players. Ever. Hencoe posted:Helping a store in town get a 30k league going What I'm getting at is that Hencoe is a bad man.  (I am working hard on my Alpha Legion so that I may walk in the footsteps of the immortal Stanyer89, PBUH. Last time I played Hencoe and lost I ricocheted a Bloodletter off of him and into the corner of the store. S'good shot.)
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Anybody looking for cheap rapiers, check out this kit for 1/3rd the price: http://curiousconstructs.theslowcentury.com/ocart/index.php?route=product/product&path=73_83&product_id=177 It might take some conversion work, but I dig it more than the regular carrier Von Humboldt posted:What I'm getting at is that Hencoe is a bad man. Thank god, I thought we had the only dysfunctional ham group in the thread. Von Humboldt, we'd be happy to throw our toys at you if you are ever unfortunate enough to want to play us in the Portland/Seattle area. Hencoe seems like a cool dude too. Like a true Iron BroHam he hates himself and his legion, shedding a single tear of self loathing each time he curbstomps a 16 year old with an unpainted Calth army :usa: He'd get along well with Panascope who once trolled a kid so hard at an FLGS that they started screaming loudly and left the store.
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I just sold my Isstvan Red Book for $102.50 
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