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Weird that the times would cover that story. Jerry Falwell being a piece of poo poo isn't exactly news.
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Aerox posted:HOW IS JEB! SO BAD AT THIS!?!??! http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/03/politics/jeb-bush-hillary-clinton-whoop/ e: beaten America Inc. fucked around with this message at 10:18 on Dec 6, 2015 |
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ohgodwhat posted:Ah, yes, people with money betting on politics - those are the opinions I'm really missing out on. How otherwise could we possibly glean the timbre of the political "speech" of the investment class?
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The Puppy Bowl posted:Weird that the times would cover that story. Jerry Falwell being a piece of poo poo isn't exactly news. nm, didn't realize this was Jerry Falwell Jr. Filthy Hans fucked around with this message at 11:57 on Dec 6, 2015 |
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Dec 6, 2015 10:23
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I've always been of the opinion that Jr. is just the latest incarnation of Master Lich Jerry Falwell.
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The Puppy Bowl posted:I've always been of the opinion that Jr. is just the latest incarnation of Master Lich Jerry Falwell. He's Liberty University's Uga, when one croaks just replace him.
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alpha_destroy posted:Wait, what the gently caress? Delta Green isn't a secret conspiracy anymore? The gently caress is the point then? The best part of playing Delta Green was trying to come up with conceivable cover stories for why a postal agent, an immigration agent, and some motherfucker from the CDC would be snooping around that would fool both civilians and overzealous budgetary administrators. Second edition. The relationship with the Grays fell apart, Alphonse is dead, MJ12 leadership was mostly wiped out with the exception of an ex-DG agent. Most of them were brought into the fold as part of the new government sanctioned DG, but there's still a bunch of people who are leery of the government being involved operating on the outside, led by the new Alphonse, formerly agent Charlie. It looks like a big part of 2e is going to be playing up the tensions between the Program and the Cowboys over who the real DG is.
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Article's a little old but...quote:... https://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/11/22/opinion/sunday/who-turned-my-blue-state-red.html?_r=1&referer= I can't tell you have many conservatives who I know have used government aid in the past I've heard base their entire political philosophy off of disdain for some anecdotal (likely bullshit) story about some lazy rear end in a top hat abusing the system. If this article can be believed that's not just a trend I noticed but the natural political evolution in lovely rural regions. If the government aid they received worked, pulling them out of poverty, they turn around and look at the people currently using it saying "I can't believe my tax dollars are paying for these lazy bums." So after accounting for misinformation, the death of American unions, and general dissatisfaction with politics leading to disengagement is there anyway for the dems to reclaim rural voters who depend on the government to live?
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I don't really know how you got that from the article. What it's saying is that the meme here about poor rural people voting against their own interests is incorrect. Rather, it's that the only people voting are the already rich in the area. For your hypothesis to be correct you'd have to show that these rich people were actually brought out of poverty and directly benefited from social services (and obviously at some level they did but some levels are more of a reach than others). quote:So after accounting for misinformation, the death of American unions, and general dissatisfaction with politics leading to disengagement is there anyway for the dems to reclaim rural voters who depend on the government to live? The side effect of continued urbanization is a disinterest in the rural vote. Even here, the general strategy is basically "wait until they die out".
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I wonder if there's a correlation between Republican voter suppression efforts and the trend noted by that article.
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Gun sales are spiking again, just lol America. How many loving guns do you need? http://time.com/4137749/gun-sales-spike-san-bernardino/
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Jimmy Carter has beaten cancer.
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Pohl posted:Gun sales are spiking again, just lol America. One for every mass shooting in America. And with 350 odd this year alone, gun owners have some catching up to do!
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computer parts posted:I don't really know how you got that from the article. What it's saying is that the meme here about poor rural people voting against their own interests is incorrect. Rather, it's that the only people voting are the already rich in the area. For your hypothesis to be correct you'd have to show that these rich people were actually brought out of poverty and directly benefited from social services (and obviously at some level they did but some levels are more of a reach than others). What? It's not talking about the rich, it's talking about the middle class, and he quoted a long anecdote showing exactly what you're asking for. Obviously, that's not the majority of republican voters, but it shows that the disdainful attitude is seen even among people who used the services at one point in their life.
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We need to continue to buy guns as long as that fear is still there. That fear of Big Government, Foreign Terrorists (as if there's any other kind), the Political Correctivas, Communists, Socialists, Moochers, Leechers, Urban Thugs, Muslims, Foreigners, Refugees, Anchor Babies, Encroaching Death, Thieves, Mass Shooters, Bombers, Muggers, Noisy Buggers, Suspicious Persons, Drug-Addled Youths, Freedom Haters
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BRAKE FOR MOOSE posted:What? It's not talking about the rich, it's talking about the middle class, and he quoted a long anecdote showing exactly what you're asking for. Obviously, that's not the majority of republican voters, but it shows that the disdainful attitude is seen even among people who used the services at one point in their life. Well, rich is a bit of a stretch, but that doesn't change my underlying point - the people actually on food stamps aren't voting Republican. They're not voting against their best interests.
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At this point I'm pretty sure Carter is just waiting to finish out a second term as president before dying.
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This is the happiest politics related news I've heard in a long time. Good on you Jimmy. 
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This is some excellent news I was not expecting
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gradenko_2000 posted:http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/06/us/president-of-liberty-university-urges-students-to-get-gun-permits.html?_r=0 What in the gently caress? I knew this guy was an rear end in a top hat when it comes to gays, but I thought he was always a Bible literalist, which would mean non-violent.
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Luigi Thirty posted:Aha, it's considered a binary options prediction market. The DoD tried to make one to predict terrorism once. They have an official "we cool" letter from the CFTC. I had a thought the other day about finding someone (Paddy Power?) who would give you odds on a polling place shooting if Trump got the nom, I could totally see some more /pol/ jerks trying to start poo poo.
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blue squares posted:What in the gently caress? I knew this guy was an rear end in a top hat when it comes to gays, but I thought he was always a Bible literalist, which would mean non-violent. Hahahahaha
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What I want to know is why the gently caress does Liberty University still have a tax exemption?
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blue squares posted:What in the gently caress? I knew this guy was an rear end in a top hat when it comes to gays, but I thought he was always a Bible literalist, which would mean non-violent. What? These a part of the bible where after a city falls the kill all the adult men and sell most of the women and children into slavery or taken as wives, what bible are you reading? Being a bible literalist would mean being pretty drat violent even if you exclude the old testament
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blue squares posted:What in the gently caress? I knew this guy was an rear end in a top hat when it comes to gays, but I thought he was always a Bible literalist, which would mean non-violent.  Maybe that sort of biblical literalism exists somewhere but certainly not here in good old 'Merica.
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Pohl posted:Gun sales are spiking again, just lol America. If I were a conspiracy theorist, I'd believe gun manufacturers are setting up more and more mass shootings to drive up revenue even further. 
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Shifty Pony posted:What I want to know is why the gently caress does Liberty University still have a tax exemption? Same reason the Church of Scientology has one - suing (or threatening to sue) the IRS into submission.
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Your Dunkle Sans posted:If I were a conspiracy theorist, I'd believe gun manufacturers are setting up more and more mass shootings to drive up revenue even further. They kinda are but entirely unintentionally: 1. Oppose gun control measures 2. Easy availability of guns causes another mass shooting 3. Make gun nuts hulk out over gun control 4. Profit
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Your Dunkle Sans posted:If I were a conspiracy theorist, I'd believe gun manufacturers are setting up more and more mass shootings to drive up revenue even further. It's not a conspiracy theory, loose gun regulations lead to more sales and a side effect is more mass shootings. These regulations are created in an environment where they spend millions (billions?) in lobbying paid for by more sales. It's like any other positive feedback loop.
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Shifty Pony posted:What I want to know is why the gently caress does Liberty University still have a tax exemption? well, the lynchburg city council just sucks liberty's dick nonstop, so the city won't do anything to make them mad, and i guess the fed probably doesn't care or knows they wouldn't win a court case or whatever
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For it to be a conspiracy it'd have to be a hidden agenda. It's pretty obvious that Gun Manufacturers lobby for less gun control, which gives easier access to guns which lead to more mass shootings. They even start advertising heavily after Mass Shootings and encourage sales and drop prices.
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Shifty Pony posted:What I want to know is why the gently caress does Liberty University still have a tax exemption? Why shouldn't they?
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Shifty Pony posted:What I want to know is why the gently caress does Liberty University still have a tax exemption? As long as they don't back a specific candidate or speak for or against a specific candidate's policies they keep their tax-exempt status. Moktaro posted:I had a thought the other day about finding someone (Paddy Power?) who would give you odds on a polling place shooting if Trump got the nom, I could totally see some more /pol/ jerks trying to start poo poo. The DoD used to operate one of these but for predicting upcoming terrorist attacks. They shut it down once they realized how bad of an idea it was to incentivize terrorism.
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Luigi Thirty posted:As long as they don't back a specific candidate or speak for or against a specific candidate's policies they keep their tax-exempt status. They can endorse whomever they want and keep their tax status. They're an accredited university, not a church.
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Joementum posted:They can endorse whomever they want and keep their tax status. They're an accredited university, not a church. According to Section 501(c)(3), that's not correct: quote:(3)Corporations, and any community chest, fund, or foundation, organized and operated exclusively for religious, charitable, scientific, testing for public safety, literary, or educational purposes, or to foster national or international amateur sports competition (but only if no part of its activities involve the provision of athletic facilities or equipment), or for the prevention of cruelty to children or animals, no part of the net earnings of which inures to the benefit of any private shareholder or individual, no substantial part of the activities of which is carrying on propaganda, or otherwise attempting, to influence legislation (except as otherwise provided in subsection (h)), and which does not participate in, or intervene in (including the publishing or distributing of statements), any political campaign on behalf of (or in opposition to) any candidate for public office.
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HootTheOwl posted:It's not a conspiracy theory, loose gun regulations lead to more sales and a side effect is more mass shootings. These regulations are created in an environment where they spend millions (billions?) in lobbying paid for by more sales. It's like any other positive feedback loop. No I mean literally people like Syed Farouk being paid by Smith and Wesson Co. behind the scenes to commit mass shootings behind the scenes to drive up sales then cover it up with a facade of Islamic extremism as a false flag operation, not merely cause and effect.
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ThirdPartyView posted:According to Section 501(c)(3), that's not correct: Thanks for the correction.
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Your Dunkle Sans posted:No I mean literally people like Syed Farouk being paid by Smith and Wesson Co. behind the scenes to commit mass shootings behind the scenes to drive up sales then cover it up with a facade of Islamic extremism as a false flag operation, not merely cause and effect. You mean its a false flag attack paid for by Obama to take our guns. Something something Queen of England.
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