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A Winner is Jew posted:Apparently after the accident they kept recreating the conditions in a simulator and in every single simulation they couldn't even get within like 5 miles of an airport which means there was always zero survivors. I also heard this about JAL123. Not trying to take anything away from the pilots, but I wonder how much being in the cockpit and feeling the movement of the plane helps in these kind of situations. e: Quoting for new page.
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Hyperlynx posted:I thought every airline does free booze, though, if you're not flying on a budget line?
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ExecuDork posted:Wandering a bit off topic here, but for Canada, you get free booze on pretty much any airline if you fly over an ocean - Atlantic or Pacific (though I don't know about Vancouver - Hawaii); I don't know if the budget airlines that fly between Toronto and the Caribbean offer free booze. Domestic flights and flights to the USA don't have free booze, but you can usually buy a drink (for - of course - highly inflated prices) if you're 19 years old or older. Age of legal drinking is determined by each province, and roughly half are 18, but the other half are 19 so Air Canada says no drinks even if you fly from Edmonton to Calgary (in Alberta the age is 18). Porter Airlines has free booze on every flight, although it's a small selection.
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Dec 6, 2015 02:08
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Kenlon posted:My favorite air (near) disaster story is still United 232. No hydraulics, flying the drat thing by purely adjusting the throttle, and they managed to get it down almost safely - 185 survivors out of 296 aboard. Hell of a thing. 
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DaNzA posted:Fitch was diagnosed with brain cancer in January 2010,[8] and succumbed to it on May 7, 2012, at his home in St. Charles, Illinois. "I was the most alive I've ever been. That is the only way I can describe it to you."
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It's hard to tell what these guys' plan was: http://i.imgur.com/b8CXN1Y.gifv Bonus: 
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Dec 6, 2015 04:54
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Say Nothing posted:Kind of reminds me of this. Of course it's in Russia. https://youtube.com/watch?v=2xlDKWKUOJM
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Staryberry posted:It's hard to tell what these guys' plan was: They were probably trying to move it out slightly so that they could remove it using the forklift on the left side of the frame
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That's pretty close to the response when that was posted in the Schadenfreud thread, but with that other, unrelated picture there it leads to a lovely bit of absurdity in my mental image.
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I just spent the past week working behind the scenes at NASA and I can safely say that I did not see anything there that would belong in this thread. I guess that's important when you're launching 750,000 lbs of explosives into space, but refreshing none the less.
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Dec 6, 2015 06:33
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Thin Privilege posted:Of course it's in Russia. I would have thought China - they have a history of this sort of thing. 
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Dec 6, 2015 07:11
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No wonder they haven't had the equivalent of 9/11, I can see it now - Your usual jihadi with some nong-grade six-seater flying to smack into some Beijing tower, only to have the thing fall just before impact. Cue the plane flying in a holding pattern, trying to decide whether to smack into it anyway.
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Dec 6, 2015 07:21
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Thin Privilege posted:Of course it's in Russia. At this point you could merge this and the Russia thread and I'd doubt anyone would notice.
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WarpedNaba posted:Cue the plane flying in a holding pattern, trying to decide whether to smack into it anyway. http://www.theonion.com/article/al-qaeda-claims-us-mass-transportation-infrastruct-21008
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Kenlon posted:My favorite air (near) disaster story is still United 232. No hydraulics, flying the drat thing by purely adjusting the throttle, and they managed to get it down almost safely - 185 survivors out of 296 aboard. Hell of a thing. Not OSHA-related but this is from a show called First Person which is a series of interviews by Errol Morris. Some are dramatic like this, some are funny, some are bizarre, but they're all worth watching.
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Grey Fox posted:Beer here: And that's why we wrap full pallets with packing wrap, boys and girls.  Slanderer posted:They were probably trying to move it out slightly so that they could remove it using the forklift on the left side of the frame Possibly, and still hilariously stupid of them if so: anyone with any skill with a forklift could do that with the lift itself. Stick the forks in halfway, lift up just enough to get friction, drag the pallet back, set it down, get the forks all the way in, good to go.
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Staryberry posted:It's hard to tell what these guys' plan was: There's a goddam forklift just to the left
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gender illusionist posted:There's a goddam forklift just to the left How are they supposed to drive it in without a second one?!
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Delivery McGee posted:That happened in a grocery store I used to work at once. It was the aisle with the deodorant on it. A can of Axe broke on impact, took off like a rocket, and barely missed hitting a cashier in the head. Check out the security footage: https://youtu.be/H17mWrB9RbY?t=50s I worked in a liquor store with a domestic wines shelf as big as the one in the gif. Thousands of bottles of wine on shelves up to 6' high are really goddamn heavy, especially the thicker bottles of more expensive wine which are on the top shelves. If anyone was under those falling shelves in the video, they could have been crushed fairly badly.
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Bottom Liner posted:I just spent the past week working behind the scenes at NASA and I can safely say that I did not see anything there that would belong in this thread. I guess that's important when you're launching 750,000 lbs of explosives into space, but refreshing none the less. Scientists are pretty good at knowing if someone is watching. We leap into unsafe action once everyone is gone, don't worry.
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gender illusionist posted:There's a goddam forklift just to the left I'm guessing he was trying to get the pallet mover (left by whoever loaded the truck from a dock) out from under it in order to use the forklift.
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Bottom Liner posted:I just spent the past week working behind the scenes at NASA and I can safely say that I did not see anything there that would belong in this thread. I guess that's important when you're launching 750,000 lbs of explosives into space, but refreshing none the less.  quote:While the turn-over cart used during the procedure was in storage, a technician removed twenty-four bolts securing an adapter plate to it without documenting the action. The team subsequently using the cart to turn the satellite failed to check the bolts, as specified in the procedure, before attempting to move the satellite.[13] Repairs to the satellite cost $135 million. Though it was at a contractor's facility, not a NASA one, so there's that.
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DrBouvenstein posted:
Jesus, I'd never be able to work comfortably around something that expensive.
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DaNzA posted:Fitch was diagnosed with brain cancer in January 2010,[8] and succumbed to it on May 7, 2012, at his home in St. Charles, Illinois. That was a great video to watch. I'm happy that the guy was able to get back up there, after having been through that. I'd probably drink myself to death in an alleyway.
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Nfcknblvbl posted:Jesus, I'd never be able to work comfortably around something that expensive. Always blame anything no one else witnessed on the janitor
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DrBouvenstein posted:
I wonder what happened to that technician. e: quote:Lockheed Martin agreed to forfeit all profit from the project to help pay for repair costs; they later took a $30 million charge relating to the incident. The remainder of the repair costs were paid by the United States government.  can't let those poor government contractors take the hit 
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Sagebrush posted:
Yeah, if they were smart they would fine some random employee $105 million dollars, that'll learn him.
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No, Lockheed should pay the entire amount, because they (someone under their employ) hosed it up. Clients don't pay for your mistakes. If they want to try and somehow extract 9 figures from the technician who took out the bolts, that's up to their own legal idiot-team to sort out, but it shouldn't be dumped on the American public.
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A hundred million is pocket change compared to what the government wastes on boats and planes.
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Peanut President posted:Yeah, if they were smart they would fine some random employee $105 million dollars, that'll learn him. They probably overcharged by at least that much on the project anyway
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It's roughly $10,000 per lb to send something to space. The payload we're launching to the ISS today is 7,700lbs, so around 77,000,000 (that's just for cargo, not counting the weight of the Cygnus vehicle itself). That sounds crazy expensive until you look at what we spend on single missles and fighter jets.
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Sagebrush posted:No, Lockheed should pay the entire amount, because they (someone under their employ) hosed it up. Clients don't pay for your mistakes. That would likely just result in Lockheed Martin no longer bidding on satellite contracts and nobody filling the gap
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TheWhiteNightmare posted:That would likely just result in Lockheed Martin no longer bidding on satellite contracts and nobody filling the gap If only we’d considered scenarios like this when we allowed the military‐industrial complex to consolidate.
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Drone_Fragger posted:Planes are absurdly safe to the point that if a plane crashes it's almost universally pilot or crew error over actual mechanical failure. And that's why never fly by any budget Asian airlines because their pilots are not particularly well trained and the planes are not particularly well maintained. Same with Russian airlines. Hahaha! loving amazing AV post combo.
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DrBouvenstein posted:
There was news at the NASA John Glenn Research Center (NASA Cleveland) where a contractor fell three stories off a girder when working on a new building. Survived but barely.
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Sagebrush posted:
quote:Lockheed Martin agreed to forfeit all profit from the project How much do you think that was?
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LordSaturn posted:How much do you think that was? With creative accounting, I'm going to guess $0
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Platystemon posted:If only we’d considered scenarios like this when we allowed the military‐industrial complex to consolidate. It's more a consequence of the government needing things that there's no commercial market for, and since big government satellites are tremendously expensive and complicated no contractor is going to bother making them if the government isn't taking some of the risk
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no gore, enjoy. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=klZUF7VYXlg hazards of weather reporting. I have no attribution for this sadly.
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terrenblade posted:I have no attribution for this sadly. Found this news story on it, unless that's a parody site or whatever. Edit: Okay I watched the video on the news site, because I can use the internet, and the actual video has no bonk. Crust First fucked around with this message at 03:46 on Dec 7, 2015 |
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