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homeowner 39 22.41%
renter 69 39.66%
stupid peace of poo poo 66 37.93%
Total: 174 votes
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Ivor Biggun
Apr 30, 2003

A big "Fuck You!" from the Keyhole nebula

Lipstick Apathy

NoDoorway posted:

Aaaand Judith Collins back as police and corrections minister.

What the actual hell.

Just wait until she's mayor of Auckland

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oohhboy
Jun 8, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Ivor Biggun posted:

Just wait until she's mayor of Auckland

That's one way to get people out of Auckland.

cptn_dr
Sep 7, 2011

Seven for beauty that blossoms and dies


Ivor Biggun posted:

Just wait until she's mayor of Auckland

Help, I'm screaming and I can't stop

Binkenstein
Jan 18, 2010

But wasn't Corrections already a steaming pile of poo poo when Collins was in charge, it's just we didn't find out until whats-his-name was in charge. Guess it's not so much "Collins can fix it!" but "Collins can hide all this stuff so it doesn't embarrass us in 2017's Election Campaign"

Taitale
Feb 19, 2011
I predict a lot of "I was not the minister of corrections when X happened" excuses.

voiceless anal fricative
May 6, 2007

Ghostlight posted:

I mean, it's literally something we did in protest of Fiji's military coup but reality is too grey to contemplate black and white solutions such as that, nice as they would be.

Our policy with Fiji was a really good example of how to respond to a coup or corruption imo. Very selective and targeted sanctions

Butt Wizard
Nov 3, 2005

It was a pornography store. I was buying pornography.

Ghostlight posted:

That our government will continue to make overtures that fundamentally contradict our expressed values as a nation and the values expressed as his own by his honour John Key the Prime Minister of New Zealand should come as no surprise given Nationals extensive history of providing perks, positions, jobs, and paybacks to its own party members, friends, partners and piggybanks throughout their term in power.

Both parties tend to be equally guilty of this kind of poo poo but people seem to pretty much accept it as inevitable.

exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.

Binkenstein posted:

But wasn't Corrections already a steaming pile of poo poo when Collins was in charge, it's just we didn't find out until whats-his-name was in charge. Guess it's not so much "Collins can fix it!" but "Collins can hide all this stuff so it doesn't embarrass us in 2017's Election Campaign"

She made it poo poo; when she was minister last time she introduced stuff like double-bunking and, of course, Serco.

e: ugh I didn't know she got police as well

exmarx fucked around with this message at 07:15 on Dec 7, 2015

voiceless anal fricative
May 6, 2007

I thought Tolley was police?

e: she's doing development now apparently. I need to look at Nationals new cabinet it seems

voiceless anal fricative fucked around with this message at 07:32 on Dec 7, 2015

Taitale
Feb 19, 2011

Exclamation Marx posted:

She made it poo poo; when she was minister last time she introduced stuff like double-bunking and, of course, Serco.

e: ugh I didn't know she got police as well

Double bunking and Corrections generally poo poo policy on trans prisoners are both responsible for a trans women being repeatedly raped overnight by a bunkmate in a male prison.

exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.






Moongrave
Jun 19, 2004

Finally Living Rent Free
I don't think people "fear" you either Collins, you spiteful, hatefilled bitch.

El Pollo Blanco
Jun 12, 2013

by sebmojo

BARONS CYBER SKULL posted:

I don't think people "fear" you either Collins, you spiteful, hatefilled bitch.

I mean, I fear what she's capable of doing as Police/Corrections minister, since, as a minister, she's more 'effective' than anyone else in the Nats in the role (this is how civil servants in the ministries feel about her, of course).

Jacobin
Feb 1, 2013

by exmarx
Punching out of the country today to the USA indefinitely folks, hope you are all alive and NZ society is still recognisable under the return of Collins.

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



Please don't get shot or shoot anybody.

Moongrave
Jun 19, 2004

Finally Living Rent Free

Ghostlight posted:

Please don't get shot or shoot anybody.

He already has its why they're letting him in

Jacobin
Feb 1, 2013

by exmarx
I will unironically be participating in a goonshot social event at a firing range somewhere in the South sometime in January with fellow posters of this forum, Ill post pictures here

Ivor Biggun
Apr 30, 2003

A big "Fuck You!" from the Keyhole nebula

Lipstick Apathy

Jacobin posted:

Punching out of the country today to the USA indefinitely folks, hope you are all alive and NZ society is still recognisable under the return of Collins.

Vote Trump!

Somfin
Oct 25, 2010

In my🦚 experience🛠️ the big things🌑 don't teach you anything🤷‍♀️.

Nap Ghost

Ivor Biggun posted:

Vote Trump!

Don't even joke about that dude, I'm already ashamed enough about my home country without needing to remember that we're now actually gonna elect Hitler.

Laverna
Mar 21, 2013


It'll make us look less bad in comparison! :3: Positives!

Kathleen
Feb 26, 2013

Grimey Drawer
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=11558121

evil company not so evil today :3:

Ivor Biggun
Apr 30, 2003

A big "Fuck You!" from the Keyhole nebula

Lipstick Apathy

I thought that link was going to be to this story
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/news/article.cfm?c_id=280&objectid=11558364

Ivor Biggun
Apr 30, 2003

A big "Fuck You!" from the Keyhole nebula

Lipstick Apathy

Somfin posted:

Don't even joke about that dude, I'm already ashamed enough about my home country without needing to remember that we're now actually gonna elect Hitler.

I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure your next president will be a Clinton, as ridiculous as that is.

From the outside I think that A) term limits should be extended to more political positions and B) term limits should also cover immediate family to try to limit the creation of political dynasties. But I'm a filthy socialist so take that with a grain of salt.

Lancelot
May 23, 2006

Fun Shoe

Ivor Biggun posted:

I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure your next president will be a Clinton, as ridiculous as that is.

From the outside I think that A) term limits should be extended to more political positions and B) term limits should also cover immediate family to try to limit the creation of political dynasties. But I'm a filthy socialist so take that with a grain of salt.

It is not socialist to bar a woman from office because of who her husband was.

exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.
Hillary is bad on her own merits, there's no need to bring dynasty into it

truther
Oct 22, 2008

ASK ME ABOUT THE BEARS
Yeah it is pretty concerning that Hillary is the frontrunner for the Presidency.
Sanders would be really good for America I think... but please, just not Hillary.

A human heart
Oct 10, 2012

All the candidates for the US presidency are bad.

Malachite_Dragon
Mar 31, 2010

Weaving Merry Christmas magic
I don't care who wins anymore as long as it isn't Trump

Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012

Malachite_Dragon posted:

I don't care who wins anymore as long as it's Trump

My unironic view on this. I hope that he wins and the ensuing disaster is so massive that it energises the apathetic American voting public to turn up and vote for people who aren't idiots.

Or I guess the world might be destroyed in a nuclear holocaust which is indistinguishable from the current direction everything's heading so no great loss.

Wandle Cax
Dec 15, 2006

Slavvy posted:

My unironic view on this. I hope that he wins

Personally i'd rather the "leader of the free world" was not Donald trump

WarpedNaba
Feb 8, 2012

Being social makes me swell!
That'd be a drat quick reinterpretation of the idea of 'Free world'.

exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.


money troubles huh :(

Xik
Mar 10, 2011

Dinosaur Gum
I wouldn't be so happy if my sausages looked like that

Somfin
Oct 25, 2010

In my🦚 experience🛠️ the big things🌑 don't teach you anything🤷‍♀️.

Nap Ghost

Slavvy posted:

My unironic view on this. I hope that he wins and the ensuing disaster is so massive that it energises the apathetic American voting public to turn up and vote for people who aren't idiots.

Or I guess the world might be destroyed in a nuclear holocaust which is indistinguishable from the current direction everything's heading so no great loss.

Accellerationism is a really "comfortably wealthy white guy" way to not solve the world's problems.

El Pollo Blanco
Jun 12, 2013

by sebmojo

Somfin posted:

Accellerationism is a really "comfortably wealthy white guy" way to not solve the world's problems.

It wouldn't be a D&D idea if it wasn't from the perspective of a wealthy white guy or if it was going to solve any problems!

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



Somfin posted:

Accellerationism is a really "comfortably wealthy white guy" way to not solve the world's problems.

Some people just want to watch America Bern.

Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012

Somfin posted:

Accellerationism is a really "comfortably wealthy white guy" way to not solve the world's problems.

I wish I was wealthy! Also have never heard of accelerationism but it sounds pretty stupid, I just enjoy disasters.

Lancelot
May 23, 2006

Fun Shoe

Slavvy posted:

I wish I was wealthy! Also have never heard of accelerationism but it sounds pretty stupid, I just enjoy disasters.

Accelerationism is leftists who don't mind if fascists/hard rightists win because they will destroy society so totally that leftism will look great by comparison.

It's fairly optimistic, even from the perspective of people who elected Andrew Little as a serious challenger to John Key.

voiceless anal fricative
May 6, 2007

I always feel like accelerationists underestimate the power of apathy and moderate mediocrity in politics

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Big Bad Beetleborg
Apr 8, 2007

Things may come to those who wait...but only the things left by those who hustle.

Flag result: At Least It's Not The Weetbix Box

http://www.electionresults.govt.nz/2015_flag_referendum1/results-by-count-report.html

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