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Dapper_Swindler posted:what do they want. do they want the US to drop a couple of thousand troops down there and have another war in iraq? Yes, because putting actual troops in Iraq means that Obama was wrong and Bush was right.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:do these people even know what Marxist means? and that trump was parodied long before his political maneuvers See Orwell's famous quote on fascism. quote:what do they want. do they want the US to drop a couple of thousand troops down there and have another war in iraq? I mean i think they are stupid fuckheads, but i wondering is airstrikes and spec ops is going to be enough. If we have to play world police, i would rather do it under a liberal then whatever the GOP puts out. They want the US military to kill Muslims.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:do these people even know what Marxist means? and that trump was parodied long before his political maneuvers Most of the GOP candidates are on record supporting tens of thousands of U.S. troops in Iraq and Syria.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:do these people even know what Marxist means? and that trump was parodied long before his political maneuvers They want to shout loudly about how Obama is weak, and no matter what he does, they will act as if it's not enough, in a pissy attempt to seem more manly.
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https://www.jebbush.com Click the link I love this cycle
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Nelson Mandingo posted:Wait what? Man they really unskewed the hell out of those polls didn't they? Reminder that it was well into election day 2012 before the Romneys were persuaded to consider the mere possibility that they might not win, to the point where Mitt had to scramble to write a concession speech in time (he'd been fussing around with his anticipated victory speech on the flight back from Ohio), and they had a huge barge of about $25k of fireworks waiting in Boston Harbor which had to be sent back. Then of course there was his president-elect webpage which leaked shortly after his resounding defeat.
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Fried Chicken posted:https://www.jebbush.com Hahaha, I've never seen a former governor owned so constantly.
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Fried Chicken posted:https://www.jebbush.com The most interesting thing about this is that a domain squatter also has donaldtrump.com which makes his website donaldjtrump.com.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:do these people even know what Marxist means? and that trump was parodied long before his political maneuvers what they want is for the US to implement the Final Solution to the Muslim Question. only the saudis can stick around, at least until the oil's gone
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Adar posted:Given the staying power of the average GOP voter I fully expect this means either Rubio or Jeb actually win, but yeah, Trump is finally dead now.
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HootTheOwl posted:Your optimism is endearing if you think this means death for Trump. Yeah, Trump is eternal.
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Nelson Mandingo posted:Wait what? Man they really unskewed the hell out of those polls didn't they? She was First Lady of Massachusetts. Similar as to how Mitt is referred to as Governor Romney in direct address. You basically keep your highest title in direct address, even after you leave. e: I guess Wikipedia says that technically, you do not keep "Governor" or "President" when you leave, but the use of it has been in fashion for a long time. foobardog fucked around with this message at 21:41 on Dec 7, 2015 |
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HootTheOwl posted:Your optimism is endearing if you think this means death for Trump. American populists like Trump, Dean, Perot and every other name you can think of in the past few decades have huge blocks of voters until they lose something. As soon as they do the crowds move on to the next hotness. 2012 was just the cycle expressing itself faster than usual.
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Trump is going to cap out at 40% of republicans max which will look okay in the states like Iowa who vote 100% on personality with a field of 10 but will get him trashed with a field of 3 on Super Tuesday.
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Aerox posted:This is a couple days old, but I don't remember seeing it posted over the weekend. Apologies if it already was. Unskewed polls 2016: The polls are coming from inside the party!
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Here's the short list for Time's Person of the Yearquote:Black Lives Matter activists, who have protested inequality towards African Americans, especially in their treatment by law enforcement. I'd give it to BLM activists. VVVVV that's another good one theblackw0lf fucked around with this message at 21:51 on Dec 7, 2015 |
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I'd go with Rouhani. Can't be easy doing what he is getting done.
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Can someone explain why Kalanick deserves to be on that short list?
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It's going to either be Putin or Trump; my money is on Putin.
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Remembering that it's not supposed to be an honor, I'd pick Putin. If it was America-centric, Trump would win as a nuclear bomb on the Republican Primary, Merkel would be good for Europe-centric, but really the most internationally-stretching mover and shaker this year of that group has been Putin.
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TwinsensRevenge posted:Can someone explain why Kalanick deserves to be on that short list? Hitler was Man of the Year twice.
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TwinsensRevenge posted:Can someone explain why Kalanick deserves to be on that short list? If they instead did the "Sharing Economy" as a whole, it'd make more sense. Uber is just a very visible company in a string of companies attempting to "disrupt" things by ignoring current laws.
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foobardog posted:Remembering that it's not supposed to be an honor, I'd pick Putin. If it was America-centric, Trump would win as a nuclear bomb on the Republican Primary, Merkel would be good for Europe-centric, but really the most internationally-stretching mover and shaker this year of that group has been Putin. Time gave that up just after the turn of the century 
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Good Plumline on GOP Governance, such as it is: https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2015/12/07/this-one-anecdote-perfectly-explains-todays-gop/
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Trabisnikof posted:Time gave that up just after the turn of the century They need to take my opinion seriously as a former Person of the Year.  e: Two-time Person of the Year! foobardog fucked around with this message at 22:03 on Dec 7, 2015 |
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Dec 7, 2015 21:57
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That pussy commenter wasn't the only Fox News contributor reduced to cusses in the face of Obama's cowering obeisance before of Radical Islam.
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Bip Roberts posted:Trump is going to cap out at 40% of republicans max which will look okay in the states like Iowa who vote 100% on personality with a field of 10 but will get him trashed with a field of 3 on Super Tuesday. The problem with this theory is that all of his competition is awful.
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zoux posted:Hitler was Man of the Year twice. I'm aware the award doesn't go to the nicest man of the year, but I don't think Kalanick has done anything personally to warrant being "the person or persons who most affected the news and our lives, for good or ill, and embodied what was important about the year". He is a by-the-numbers tech CE-bro.
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Bip Roberts posted:Trump is going to cap out at 40% of republicans max which will look okay in the states like Iowa who vote 100% on personality with a field of 10 but will get him trashed with a field of 3 on Super Tuesday. One thing that has come up before, and which I tend to agree with, is that Trump may suffer significantly from Iowa being a caucus state. Caucuses are, frankly, pretty drat boring if you're not invested in state-level party politics and time consuming even if you are, given their structure. Since Trump's big crowds tend to turn out as much to scream invective and hear it fed back to them, he may have alarmingly low-turnout come the caucus, which he seems at least vaguely aware of himself with his "for gently caress's sake go vote for me even if your wife's cheating on you!" line from two days ago.
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I tuned out for Obamas big speech. How much of it was terrorism and how much of it was guns?
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theblackw0lf posted:Here's the short list for Time's Person of the Year Rouhani or Merkel. She's been in the middle of basically everything huge this year, for better or worse.
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TwinsensRevenge posted:I'm aware the award doesn't go to the nicest man of the year, but I don't think Kalanick has done anything personally to warrant being "the person or persons who most affected the news and our lives, for good or ill, and embodied what was important about the year". He is a by-the-numbers tech CE-bro. The real criteria for the award is "person who is going to generate the most attention for us from other media outlets" which is why Caitlyn Jenner is on the list. Uber is controversial and in the news, is why.
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It should be Donald Trump because he blew up the GOPs primary process, possible for good. It will be Caitlyn Jenner however because praising her allows them to appear stunning and brave without any real controversy.
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I'm inclined to start rejecting Monmouth polling outright. New CNN poll of IA voters Has Trump at 33%, Cruz at 20 and Carson at 16. I know polling this far out is worthless but there should at least be agreement between polls conducted at the same time.
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Mulva posted:It should be Donald Trump because he blew up the GOPs primary process, possible for good. It will be Caitlyn Jenner however because praising her allows them to appear stunning and brave without any real controversy. Uhuh. Because Time totally doesn't ever do anything controversial with this. Really it aught to be Al-Baghdadi, because he's turned ISIS from JV league terror squad into a fuckin caliphate.
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:Uhuh. Because Time totally doesn't ever do anything controversial with this. Not recently, not since they whiffed on making it OBL in 2001
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:Uhuh. Because Time totally doesn't ever do anything controversial with this. Ever since they decided to give it to Giuliani, I haven't believed they'll really go controversial.
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:Uhuh. Because Time totally doesn't ever do anything controversial with this. Time's Person of the Year 2015 is "Turn Off Your Monitor". Get ready for another Trump Bump. 
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Mulva posted:Not recently, not since they whiffed on making it OBL in 2001 Apparently, the backlash from picking the Ayatollah after the Iranian Revolution has made them not bother. Additionally when they decided to not pick Hitler for Person of the Century in 1999.
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