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punakone posted:Whos Max Blumenthal? A pretty renown American journalist/blogger who follows far-right movements in the world. Known for his work in the Gaza strip and Israeli occupation in the area. Does work for Alternet.org. So yeah, he's a leftie.
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Wow, crazy to see good ol' Töölö, the Espoo of Helsinki, run over by the hoi polloi. Won't they go back to burning vastaanottokeskuksia in the boondocks and let us shop our IPA-du-jour at Paasikiven Alko in peace.
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Just the other day, on my way to my hotel room in one of the most garish of post-soviet monuments in Eastern Europe, I was slightly inconvenenced by a bunch of Slav nationalists in their 20€ second hand leather jackets. What a bunch of Nazis! I literally had to take the elevator to the 26th floor and have a beer to calm my nerves before bed.
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Pussy Noise posted:Just the other day, on my way to my hotel room in one of the most garish of post-soviet monuments in Eastern Europe, I was slightly inconvenenced by a bunch of Slav nationalists in their 20€ second hand leather jackets. What a bunch of Nazis! I literally had to take the elevator to the 26th floor and have a beer to calm my nerves before bed. I saw a suspicious black guy the other day
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Who knows, maybe that quip about Finnish men raping women indoors was a (bad) joke. But then again, there are convicted rapists in TF... What I'm saying is that the comedy never stops.
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BrienneGetsHanged posted:I saw a suspicious black guy the other day Turn your monitor on.
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http://www.verkkouutiset.fi/kotimaa/dubai%20norja-44078 I am. Well, me. But this can't be real.
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Rexroom posted:A pretty renown American journalist/blogger who follows far-right movements in the world. Known for his work in the Gaza strip and Israeli occupation in the area. Does work for Alternet.org. So yeah, he's a leftie. Lyhyesti sanottuna, hän on kukkahattu joka imee Muhammedin kullia?
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Politics aside, scariest thing out of this independence day is the demands for removing human rights for certain people. Surely this will not backfire at all.
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BrienneGetsHanged posted:I saw a suspicious black guy the other day What was he suspicious of?
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This isn't the last step. 1. The government begins to tack on benefits. Unemployment benefits. Welfare benefits. Social Security benefits. Medical benefits. 2. Then they make everything complicated ON PURPOSE. 3. Then it STILL isn't enough to lift people out of poverty (which was never the plan from the start). 4. So after they run this game for a bit, they say HEY! I have a brilliant idea! Let's scrap all the benefits and just roll it into a one big lump sum payment (from the government) into your pocket on a weekly schedule! 5. Now they just wait for the right crisis to hit that throws most people on government rolls. Some economic error that forces most people into this system. 5. Now they declare every freaking aspect of your life is effectively owned by the government (in the name of making this system as efficient as possible). You wouldn't want to WASTE government money by running this inefficiently, now WOULD YOU?????? How guilty you should feel, for doing that. 6. So now you must itemize all purchases. Actually we'll just automate that process. Everything you buy is logged by the government. If you buy too many UNAPPROVED WASTEFUL items, maybe we will fine you or jail you. 7. At this point, you are effectively a ward of the state. You are their slave. The government controls and runs everything in the name of a safety net. Obey your masters. 8. It still isn't enough to lift everyone out of poverty. People have surrendered every right that matters. And are poor and hungry. The power grab is complete. The end. 9. The government stops giving a crap about you. You have nothing to offer them anyway. They've taken it all already. You descend into a third world nation status. Does this sound like a lunatic idea? Why should it? We've been arguing that is likely where it is heading all along. This isn't freedom. This isn't utopia. Its just another way to create a dictatorship. Maybe somewhere, hundreds of years into the future, some group of very brave, intelligent, and dedicated people will give their lives to overthrow this monster you erect in the name of equality. But I'm sure it won't be this generation. You are fools to allow this to happen to you.
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Puistokemisti posted:This isn't the last step. Holy poo poo, where's this from?
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Ligur posted:
Just like in a pakolaiskeskus there were literally no lynchings, no beheadings, no rapes or subjection of women when I visited? Tell me Mr. red head, how many percentages of refugees currently in Finland do you think are objectively evil?
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Buffalo squeeze posted:Holy poo poo, where's this from? Someones rear end?
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Jyppe posted:Just like in a pakolaiskeskus there were literally no lynchings, no beheadings, no rapes or subjection of women when I visited? All people are evil. Children are double-evil.
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Puistokemisti posted:This isn't the last step. This is actually the US system of food stamps.
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Valiantman posted:Scouts at least are ultra-dangerous nazis. I mean, look at them, they have blue shirts! When I was in high school I saw local scouts having their scout march. It is quite a sight to see vaahtosammutinsized kids march in unison holding torches and singing "Sinun puolestas elää ja kuolla / on halumme korkehin!". Nazis or no nazis, I don't think it's right that some 8 year old sings how he really, really wishes to die for Finnish flag some day.
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Also this is the only acceptable marching song https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8IaUXefAsCU
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Puistokemisti posted:This isn't the last step. For a while I thought this was the bitcoin thread.
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Fish of hemp posted:When I was in high school I saw local scouts having their scout march. you are a leftist liberal idiot if you don't want to die
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Syksy Räsänen, that goth space physicist and pro-Palestine campaigner, put in words his experiences of the independence day marches:Syksy Räsänen posted:Yesterday, I was at the racist "Independent Finland 2015" event and at the fascist 612 march organised by the National Resistance Movement. A few short observations, I should write more as time permits.
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Jyppe posted:Just like in a pakolaiskeskus there were literally no lynchings, no beheadings, no rapes or subjection of women when I visited? Uh. Yeah. It sounds like you are trying to make a "smart" point about something but just sound foolish. (Of course there are no beheading in a VOK.) So what was it?
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It's over and everything is returning to normal. I bet (not-racist, not-Hitler, not-Nazi) Homma is happy again. P.S. I keep forgetting how nice it is to read these with the Iltasaatana mod. \/\/\/\/\/ Obv a bunch of well-meaning patriotic citizens looking out for all of us. DanTheFryingPan fucked around with this message at 18:14 on Dec 8, 2015 |
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So who did organize the march? All I get is that it's the "612 yhdistys" and that this year something called the "EA-ryhmä" was instrumental. The website is owned by this dude. He doesn't say he's a nazi but his website espouses a pretty clear extreme right wing view. To get a feel for it, the content they post doesn't claim the holocaust never happened, but instead talks about how it's used in a conspiracy to 'fill Europe with Muslims'. Last year's march was advertised on Suomen Vastarintaliike's website, along with other far right organizations, but they don't take credit for organizing it. SVL are explicitly nazis. I don't know in what capacity they were involved this year. I'm sure these connections are purely incidental and there's no extreme right tinge to this event at all.
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DanTheFryingPan posted:It's over and everything is returning to normal. I bet (not-racist, not-Hitler, not-Nazi) Homma is happy again. The new normal being ~100 new asylum seekers every day. Also the real flood from Russia hasn't even started yet. Next spring is going to be "interesting", unless EU collectively does something, which it won't because it's the EU.
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DanTheFryingPan posted:It's over and everything is returning to normal. I bet (not-racist, not-Hitler, not-Nazi) Homma is happy again. I doubt a ten fold increase in asylum seeker average per day from last year is considered "normal" by anyone else but the most starry eyed unelma-hörhö. Guess why some of the VOKS won't be opened? They would be too far away from policing. And we have found out police are needed so often a VOK needs to be place close to enough patrols. Me? I don't think any of that is normal but sure it's better than 1000 passport losing young men a day instead. Glad ur happy tho. Ligur fucked around with this message at 18:47 on Dec 8, 2015 |
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What is this? I'm not a dirty mamu (I'm white as snow) and yet these impact me as well! 
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Speaking of economy for a second, Estonia's GDP numbers for the third quarter came out and they are not pretty. Only two countries are doing worse, Greece and... you guessed it, Finland. So if Finland is the "sick man of Europe", what does that make Estonia? Finland's slightly retarded cousin?
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How do they impact u, Dan
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OhYeah posted:Speaking of economy for a second, Estonia's GDP numbers for the third quarter came out and they are not pretty. Only two countries are doing worse, Greece and... you guessed it, Finland. It's more than slightly retarded mate.
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Friendly Tumour posted:It's more than slightly retarded mate. Your sarcastic comment is very triggering, mate.
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Ligur posted:Uh. Yeah. It sounds like you are trying to make a "smart" point about something but just sound foolish. (Of course there are no beheading in a VOK.) You really literally don't understand the irony in defending äärioikeisto despite few bad eggs, but condemning mamus for the same thing?
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Jyppe posted:You really literally don't understand the irony in defending äärioikeisto despite few bad eggs, but condemning mamus for the same thing? Someone using the word "literally" in every post is probably not ihan kartalla. Say again where I condemned "mamus" in general for anything at all?
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Oldsmobile posted:What is this? I'm not a dirty mamu (I'm white as snow) and yet these impact me as well! I'd like to see the government try to send Syrian refugees back. What are they going to do, load them on a cargo plane and drop them like bombs in Syrian airspace?
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Rexroom posted:I'd like to see the government try to send Syrian refugees back. What are they going to do, load them on a cargo plane and drop them like bombs in Syrian airspace? I'm pretty sure Syria is classified as a actual war zone by the entire EU, making them eligible for asylum? This is for the countries that are not at war, i.e. all the rest of them. e: also less than 5% of the asylum seekers coming to Finland are Syrian, making this a complete non-issue Double Bill fucked around with this message at 20:50 on Dec 8, 2015 |
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This is so weird. Most of the people with a Syrian passport (costs about 400$ IIRC) come from safe camps, in a safe country. Do they have Finnish social service there? No. Are there jobs any more than here? No. But they don't come from Raqqa by any means. The idea that anyone told "hmm, not quite right now wit residence permit" equals forcing them to an aircraft and parachuting them to a combat zone is so loving strange. Nothing like this is going on, anywhere. I understand people ideologically believe that anyone should be allowed to move anywhere if they so wish and all that but why loving LIE about the conditions, it isn't helping anything or anyone.
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Ligur posted:The idea that anyone told "hmm, not quite right now wit residence permit" equals forcing them to an aircraft and parachuting them to a combat zone is so loving strange. Nothing like this is going on, anywhere. I understand people ideologically believe that anyone should be allowed to move anywhere if they so wish and all that but why loving LIE about the conditions, it isn't helping anything or anyone. I'm sorry, I didn't realize you have a sever form of Asperger that makes you unable to see humorous postings. It makes me feel ashamed that I ridiculed all these years without knowing this. Dear thread residents, let us apologize to Ligur for laughing at his disability. From now on when Ligur shitposts, it's just his Asperger doing the shitposting. I'm sorry, Ligur.
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Ligur posted:Someone using the word "literally" in every post is probably not ihan kartalla. Remember when you said you wouldn't be triggered by the word "literally"? If not, is it due to fetal alcohol syndrome, too many kicks to the head or just something on the autism spectrum? srs question, conducting a study on what is the most common cause for posting in this thread.
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Rexroom posted:I'd like to see the government try to send Syrian refugees back. What are they going to do, load them on a cargo plane and drop them like bombs in Syrian airspace? That's what Australia's government would love to do if they had the chance. Rexroom posted:I'm sorry, I didn't realize you have a sever form of Asperger that makes you unable to see humorous postings. It makes me feel ashamed that I ridiculed all these years without knowing this. Aspergers would make him more intelligent then he actually is.
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