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Cant wait until Trump calls for "evacuating" all Muslim Americans to the east.
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The last two elections I was tense, even nervous. Now I'm somewhere in the triangle between nauseous, terrified, and entranced.
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Dec 8, 2015 03:38
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stinkles1112 posted:Gun owners are a "tribe" much the same way that people who drive Buicks are a "tribe"  At any rate the way you approach politics is about as unproductive as a typical Fox News viewer, and for exactly the same reason.
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Kilroy posted:You can't bleat about "gun culture" *and* claim they aren't a group, dumbass Gun culture is culture, not a group of people. "American culture" is a thing, not a group of people.
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Chard posted:The last two elections I was tense, even nervous. Now I'm somewhere in the triangle between nauseous, terrified, and entranced. I keep thinking Trump *finally* says something dumb enough to crater him....and he just keeps building steam.  It's bizarre to me that people can support him. He is virulently racist, an elitist, and totally out of touch with any sort of functional 21st century reality.
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Authoritarians want a strongman who will punish the bad mans, it appears to be human nature
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LeeMajors posted:I keep thinking Trump *finally* says something dumb enough to crater him....and he just keeps building steam. I'm not surprised. There are quite a number of Americans who lust for literal grisly, horrible torture and death for Muslims/women/blacks/liberals/non-whites/non-Christians/etc.
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LeeMajors posted:It's bizarre to me that people can support him. He is virulently racist, an elitist, and totally out of touch with any sort of functional 21st century reality. I don't understand where you're getting lost here.
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Dec 8, 2015 03:52
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This isn't much beyond "all Mexican immigrants are rapists" imo. Probably Islamophobia is as high as it's ever been, a plurality of GOP primary will probably agree strongly with this idea. And every single terror attack or ISIS atrocity will strengthen him from now on, he now owns "most anti-muslim candidate."
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Hulk Krogan posted:I don't understand where you're getting lost here.
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Muscle Tracer posted:Gun culture is culture, not a group of people. "American culture" is a thing, not a group of people. How about this: I don't like like people who take ecstasy. There is a whole culture that has grown up around the drug and I think it's loving stupid. I *would* support decriminalization, which a dispassionate reading of the facts and a sober look at the successes of this approach elsewhere will support, but I just don't like people who take MDMA. Let's lock them all up. Kilroy fucked around with this message at 04:08 on Dec 8, 2015 |
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Hrmmm http://www.nbcnews.com/id/4137092/ hahahaha posted:According to CAIR, 78 percent of Muslims voted Republican in 2000. It was a departure from previous elections, when this community tended to side with the health and education policies of Democrats. But conservative family values that Bush touted were attractive, as was his hints that he would seek to eliminate the 1996 Secret Evidence Act, which many Muslims believe targets members of their community. At some point I expect the Republican party to just come out with a Anti-Human platform and advocate for Anti-natalism. They've pretty much been successful at disenfranchising every single minority group.
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Dec 8, 2015 04:00
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Hollismason posted:At some point I expect the Republican party to just come out with a Anti-Human platform and advocate for Anti-natalism. They've pretty much been successful at disenfranchising every single minority group. Well this is at least getting closer to one of my personal endgame policies, "kidnap literally every child because it's more dangerous to allow another generation to be raised in the wild."
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Moxie posted:Well this is at least getting closer to one of my personal endgame policies, "kidnap literally every child because it's more dangerous to allow another generation to be raised in the wild." creepy
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Hollismason posted:creepy Yeah there's not a lot of good ways to implement it
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Moxie posted:Yeah there's not a lot of good ways to implement it I don't understand your policy really.
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Dec 8, 2015 04:12
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Moxie posted:Are you a Kravitz Nothing so glamorous, German Jew through my great-grandmother, grandmother and mother, our patriarch Johann moved his family to northern Georgia to farm in the late 20s. My dads side are all freed slaves out of Alabama and Northern Florida, who settled in the Bay Area of central Florida.
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Muscle Tracer posted:Gun culture is culture, not a group of people. "American culture" is a thing, not a group of people. Separating a culture from its consumer in this context is a littler pedantic.
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Final turkey carcass count for Mike Dukakis this year: 26.
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Joementum posted:Final turkey carcass count for Mike Dukakis this year: 26. He truly is history's greatest monster.
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Dec 8, 2015 04:28
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Did Trump say how we should identify Muslims to keep them out, or is that just left to the imagination of his supporters (skin color, devil horns hidden under turbans, etc)?
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Samurai Sanders posted:Did Trump say how we should identify Muslims to keep them out, or is that just left to the imagination of his supporters (skin color, devil horns hidden under turbans, etc)? Brown, funny sounding name, from the ME. Wonder if anyone from Indonesia would get banned based on racial stereotyping.
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DemeaninDemon posted:Brown, funny sounding name, from the ME. Also, Sikhs are basically Muslims I mean come on now
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Samurai Sanders posted:Did Trump say how we should identify Muslims to keep them out, or is that just left to the imagination of his supporters (skin color, devil horns hidden under turbans, etc)? Let's just say anyone with a hijab/niqab or anyone who fails the paper bag test. Coincidentally, that second one almost definitely disqualifies Jesus himself, a Middle Eastern Jew.
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Hulk Krogan posted:I don't understand where you're getting lost here. Its not that im lost--more that i am horrified.
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Trump basically wants to turn America into a white paper bag party.
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Dec 8, 2015 04:48
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Hollismason posted:Trump basically wants to turn America into a Sorry you can't sugar coat it.
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HootTheOwl posted:Separating a culture from its consumer in this context is a littler pedantic. I don't see why, and I don't see that "gun culture" is limited to gun consumers any more than "rape culture" is limited to rapists. The latter is a systemic issue, and so is the former. Kilroy posted:You're splitting hairs. In what way is basing your approach to gun policy on the fact that you don't like gun owners, going to result in better policy? lol
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Only 22% of Americans own any guns. Of those, even fewer own more than one gun, and even fewer own more than two functional and used guns. Within the small percentage of people, trending towards much more than 2 guns, and who are the reason we find that 300 million guns are in private hands despite under 70 million owning any guns, we find the gun culture people. Among other things they trend towards being white, male, upper wealth, and are the most likely to own one or more handguns (the 1 or 2 gun people tend towards a long rifle, a shotgun, or both, because they're real utility weapons on the farm or for family huntin'). Curiously enough these hoarders behind gun culture are the only ones who really squawk about say, not being allowed to have the latest assault clip equipped gun or moan about background checks. But they'll rile up the utility owners by claiming everything is also gonna take their guns. Even though extremely strict systems like Australia's exempt utility weapons and in Australia's case result in 11%of the population still being armed.
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There seems to enough Republican pushback on this to turn Romney's 47% into a 45% and end the election in a landslide loss. Trump winning the nomination is anything but scary. 12 years without massive tax cuts is going to really start to peeve the single issue business wing of the party, and force some of the realignment that was promised after the last general election loss. If Democrats should be afraid of something, it's that Trump proves that he can be stumped - by himself, and in drawing out the entire arsenal of the Republican establishment, paves the way for Rubio to get the nomination.
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Samurai Sanders posted:Did Trump say how we should identify Muslims to keep them out, or is that just left to the imagination of his supporters (skin color, devil horns hidden under turbans, etc)? Donald Trump posted:Trump did not respond to questions about whether any ban would also include Muslims who are U.S. citizens and travel outside the country - or how a determination of someone's religion might be made by customs and border officials. http://bigstory.ap.org/article/b0f4f54bad2843898b8b3b67559588aa/trump-calls-complete-shutdown-muslims-entering-us Wink wink nudge nudge no more browns.
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Trump winning the primary is what would be best. Hillary would destroy him, he'd possibly suppress Republican turnout, and possibly affect down ticket races.
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TyrantWD posted:There seems to enough Republican pushback on this to turn Romney's 47% into a 45% and end the election in a landslide loss. What if. What if. There's a terrorist attack between now and the election, or worse, between Trump getting the nomination and the election? What happens then?
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Hollismason posted:Trump winning the primary is what would be best. Hillary would destroy him, he'd possibly suppress Republican turnout, and possibly affect down ticket races. Whether or not he'd win, Republicans will consolidate behind their nominee (it's how they become the nominee after all), so you've got to question whether wishing for a year of him getting the explicit support of one of the two major parties is a good idea.
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Trump will still lose in the General Election.Joementum posted:Whether or not he'd win, Republicans will consolidate behind their nominee (it's how they become the nominee after all), so you've got to question whether wishing for a year of him getting the explicit support of one of the two major parties is a good idea. I actually think he'll get the nomination if he's leading by the debate in January. I think it's likely they wouldn't support him in fact it may be a critical mass meltdown if he's leading gets the votes and doesn't get the nomination. I think we're now closer than ever to seeing some sort of possible party split. Hollismason fucked around with this message at 05:15 on Dec 8, 2015 |
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SpiderHyphenMan posted:Okay but lemme gently caress with you here. The terrorist attack would need to be like October 28 and even then it probably would just make the race tighter rather than a trump win. I mean, the benghazi attack like 6 weeks before the election in September weren't enough to bump Romney to a lead, and all the temporary gains vanished over like 2 days.
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zoux posted:This isn't much beyond "all Mexican immigrants are rapists" imo. Probably Islamophobia is as high as it's ever been, a plurality of GOP primary will probably agree strongly with this idea. And every single terror attack or ISIS atrocity will strengthen him from now on, he now owns "most anti-muslim candidate." True. And really to the left of Jeb's "keep out anyone but the christians" Also to the left of moderate sane Republican David Frum's "keep all the muslims out of europe, deport all of the ones already there because their kids won't assimilate" Hollismason posted:I don't understand your policy really. anyways, I have another suggestion: USPOL Dec: Tomorrow Belongs to Trump nice little Cabaret reference
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fishmech posted:The terrorist attack would need to be like October 28 and even then it probably would just make the race tighter rather than a trump win.
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