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I'm at a crossroads with the game on my first playthrough Which faction will give me the most fun with my ending?
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Manwithastick posted:I'm at a crossroads with the game on my first playthrough They are all more or less equal: BoS - King Assholes of the Wasteland, you help them eradicate all non-human life in the Wasteland Railroad - The most even keeled of the 3. All they want to do is help Synths, gently caress everyone else Institute -  Minutemen - I can't figure out how to trigger this ending so don't know what to tell you. It's the one I would go with if I could figure it out :-/
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Dec 8, 2015 05:31
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Which pieces of clothing that can be upgraded with ballistic weave can have armor worn over them? Right now I'm wearing Agatha's Dress for +3 CHA but I'd like something that I can wear armor over so I can get some radiation resistance. So far I've figured out the baseball uniform and army fatigues do but I'm not a huge fan of either
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Dec 8, 2015 05:37
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20JG9CS15vs It is not easy fending off loneliness as a raider.
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Dec 8, 2015 05:42
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Centzon Totochtin posted:Which pieces of clothing that can be upgraded with ballistic weave can have armor worn over them? Right now I'm wearing Agatha's Dress for +3 CHA but I'd like something that I can wear armor over so I can get some radiation resistance. So far I've figured out the baseball uniform and army fatigues do but I'm not a huge fan of either Minuteman Outfit - Perception +1 Agility +1 Military Fatigues - Agility +2 +5 Eng Res Green Shirt and Combat Boots - Charisma +1 Endurance +1 Dirty/Army Fatigues - Strength +1 Agility +1 Baseball Uniform - Strength +1 Agility +1 Tattered Rags - Luck +1 (possibly bugged to -1 Luck)
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Dec 8, 2015 05:44
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Wingnut Ninja posted:Honestly, I don't think it's a bad idea in and of itself, it's more the implementation that falls flat. Between the blase voice acting ("They... they took my son. I have... to find Shaun. Oh yeah, the implementation of course isn't great but that's a different complaint entirely. People are acting like the premise alone keeps you from roleplaying and I don't see how compared to every game in the series BESIDES New Vegas. coyo7e posted:"What do you want?" Can you actually name me some moments where the dialogue is like this outside of the main quest? Most of the time I remember my character being able to say "I'm looking for my kid" or some variation of "just wandering around/piss off"
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Dec 8, 2015 05:47
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") and some very bland dialogue options, it doesn't really resonate as much as it seems like it could.
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SalTheBard posted:Minutemen - I can't figure out how to trigger this ending so don't know what to tell you. It's the one I would go with if I could figure it out :-/ All you have to do is attack the Institute before you get locked into another faction. You can do this as soon as you reach the Institute for the first time if you want, although you may want to grab Virgil's serum first. Also, for all those lamenting the endless quests from Preston, I've found that if you turn and run away from him as soon as he says he has another job for you, you can complete the ones you have and avoid him giving you new ones.
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Dec 8, 2015 05:49
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You guys got the X-01 power armor? got it at 35 court... stuff is dank in pink. Be sure to be atleast level 28.
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Dec 8, 2015 05:49
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Internet Kraken posted:Oh yeah, the implementation of course isn't great but that's a different complaint entirely. People are acting like the premise alone keeps you from roleplaying and I don't see how compared to every game in the series BESIDES New Vegas. Yeah, it's Always LOVE KID SAY NOTHING MISSING PERSON NUNYA for me
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Dec 8, 2015 05:51
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Internet Kraken posted:Oh yeah, the implementation of course isn't great but that's a different complaint entirely. People are acting like the premise alone keeps you from roleplaying and I don't see how compared to every game in the series BESIDES New Vegas. You are so loving dumb. It's ridiculous how loving stupid you are.
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Dec 8, 2015 06:03
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sector_corrector posted:You are so loving dumb. It's ridiculous how loving stupid you are. Says the guy that has dumped dozens of hours into the game he bitches about endlessly.
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Dec 8, 2015 06:08
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ahhhh the circle is repeating everyone watch this with me instead i am starting it up after only learning about it now http://www.gdcvault.com/play/1015843/Classic-Game-Postmortem
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Dec 8, 2015 06:11
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Internet Kraken posted:Says the guy that has dumped dozens of hours into the game he bitches about endlessly. I'm pretty convinced that you're a highly functioning illiterate.
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Dec 8, 2015 06:17
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Anyone else had issues hunting for holotapes and dead NPCs just not being there? I've had this issue with this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATqbEs07a6c Am I locked out of any achievements now?
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Dec 8, 2015 06:21
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Is it worth going back to try New Vegas now? I tried back when it came out but I hated the controls. I'm sure there's mods out the rear end now, though. Is it enjoyable still?
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Dec 8, 2015 06:47
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Alabaster White posted:Is it worth going back to try New Vegas now? I tried back when it came out but I hated the controls. I'm sure there's mods out the rear end now, though. Is it enjoyable still? Try Project Nevada. It adds a lot of modern fps features such as sprinting, and a grenade hotkey.
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Dec 8, 2015 06:51
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ToxicAcne posted:Try Project Nevada. It adds a lot of modern fps features such as sprinting, and a grenade hotkey. Does that help with the weird floaty delay of the controls? When I played it, there was like a weird delay between pushing the stick and actually moving around. It felt really sluggish and awful and I couldn't aim for poo poo.
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Dec 8, 2015 06:56
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Sanctum posted:A service that forces you to update games is not something I enjoy but, y'know, steam exclusive for PC and all. You're aware you can set games to not automatically update in steam, right? BAILOUT MCQUACK! posted:I find it kind of annoying how far the range is to start a random event in the world is. I know the ini has a setting to increase this range, but the base value is 1 and I'm not sure if it allows for decimal values. If it does, that might be a way to get the event range down.
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Dec 8, 2015 07:03
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Alabaster White posted:Does that help with the weird floaty delay of the controls? When I played it, there was like a weird delay between pushing the stick and actually moving around. It felt really sluggish and awful and I couldn't aim for poo poo. You have to go into the .ini files and disable mouse acceleration.
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Dec 8, 2015 07:06
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MaliciousOnion posted:All you have to do is attack the Institute before you get locked into another faction. You can do this as soon as you reach the Institute for the first time if you want, although you may want to grab Virgil's serum first. O really? Well hot drat. If I've done Battle of Bunker Hill BUT NOT Mass Fusion am I good to go?
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Dec 8, 2015 07:20
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sector_corrector posted:You are so loving dumb. It's ridiculous how loving stupid you are. Every post you've made in this thread is a complaint about bethesda games. Why are you still playing?
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Dec 8, 2015 07:38
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Emong posted:All they really said is that you delivered packages to a town in what became the divide for a while (maybe a few years?). Ulysses just reads a lot into that. The game actually says a lot of things about the Courier's background that apparently people have forgotten. The only difference is that most of it is optional dialogue stuff that you can ignore. But then I also ignore the Shaun stuff most of the time in Fallout 4, it's not like it's impossible. 
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Dec 8, 2015 07:48
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I play all the way to level 41 on my first run through the game without ever running into a deathclaw in a situation where they actually seemed threatening. My itty bitty level 11 ninja runs into his first one INDOORS in a building otherwise full of raiders. Basically I unload a full bar of AP with a sneak attack volley that chips about 20% of its health off, then never get enough breathing room to go back into stealth and explode. I'm not nearly good enough at this game to play chicken dancing around the pillar in the room it spawns in for 10 minutes to whittle it down normally. Oh Bethesda. Guess I had to make up for that sometime!
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Dec 8, 2015 07:49
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Toadsmash posted:I play all the way to level 41 on my first run through the game without ever running into a deathclaw in a situation where they actually seemed threatening. My itty bitty level 11 ninja runs into his first one INDOORS in a building otherwise full of raiders. Basically I unload a full bar of AP with a sneak attack volley that chips about 20% of its health off, then never get enough breathing room to go back into stealth and explode. I'm not nearly good enough at this game to play chicken dancing around the pillar in the room it spawns in for 10 minutes to whittle it down normally. I had one randomly drop on my head in a tiny little cave/tunnel in the Boston Mayoral Shelter and another in the Museum of Witchcraft. I was also exploring an area and randomly found a circuit breaker that sets off a siren. Which caused two deathclaws to immediately spawn outside and trap me in the building. 
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Dec 8, 2015 07:57
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Grinning Goblin posted:Can't you choose your code name for the Railroad? I mean, that even changes what is written on a chalkboard. If that isn't some serious agency and roleplaying material, I don't know what is. Because they don't have Ocelot or Fuckface as a codename. They give me so little to go with.
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Dec 8, 2015 08:03
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Anime Schoolgirl posted:I kind of wish the melee speed was similar to Skyrim's for this reason. There's no real way to make it fun other than making melee kill most lesser things in one hit, which is only a very small improvement. If you aren't having fun with a melee build, you're doing something wrong. It's a perk-intense build since you need maxed agility and high luck, good power armor, Pain Train, the sprinting perk, a jet pack, and lots of psychojet. If you don't have those, you're gonna have a bad time. Sneak melee is fun for a little bit, but full berserker is the only way to roll into the end game.
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Dec 8, 2015 08:08
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I might be going a bit crazy with the console lately. I was trying to do a mission for the institute where you get back that synth at Libertalia and the BOS kept loving it all up. I'm supposed a meet a guy and then we head in to do the mission. The problem is I'd spawn in, go find him and then a vertibird would spawn and start attack raiders. The guy I'm meeting also aggros and now I can't even talk to him. I ended up reloading a save and just deleting the vertibird out of thin air. This left the BOS guys just hovering there so I had to individually delete them too. That will show them to crash my party.
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Dec 8, 2015 08:12
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Back Hack posted:You can. Fereydun posted:i forgave him and he peaced out/sent his goons after me in the room and that's pretty much it for him Bad example. Here's a better one : why can't I just say "gently caress the dam, I don't care who wins, I want no part of this fight. I'm a goddamn deliveryman, what do I care if these yahoos want to fight it out over a concrete wall?" Point is, there's always a story that's gonna railroad you forward. The only way to choose 'I don't want to fight at the dam' is to deliberately avoid the main quest. Otherwise you gotta pick a side. You get no ending if you don't complete the MQ. Likewise, you don't get to say "Screw it, I don't care about my son." unless you deliberately ignore the main quest. Otherwise you gotta hunt him down, choose a faction to side with, and so on. ALSO Pickham is awesome I love how he's a hosed up artist guy. Kinda like Sander Cohen, whom I always thought was the best character in Bioshock. khy fucked around with this message at 08:29 on Dec 8, 2015 |
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Dec 8, 2015 08:20
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It's not like they made you read a 600 page autobiography of your character here either. "Hurr I'm a lawyer" is about as fleshed out as "Hurr I'm a courier". And you just have a baby instead of a bullet in the head.
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Dec 8, 2015 08:27
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khy posted:Point is, there's always a story that's gonna railroad you forward. The only way to choose 'I don't want to fight at the dam' is to deliberately avoid the main quest. Otherwise you gotta pick a side. You get no ending if you don't complete the MQ. Did you actually play New Vegas? Because you're trying to create a parallel that doesn't exist.
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Dec 8, 2015 08:28
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Back Hack posted:Did you actually play New Vegas? Because you're trying to create a parallel that doesn't exist. I'm not sure what you're getting at here, all 4 final quests involve fighting at the dam
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Dec 8, 2015 08:30
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khy posted:Bad example. Here's a better one : why can't I just say "gently caress the dam, I don't care who wins, I want no part of this fight. I'm a goddamn deliveryman, what do I care if these yahoos want to fight it out over a concrete wall?" It seems pretty natural to, as the courier, just wander around doing random stuff until for whatever reason you do enough quests for one of the factions and that leads to the battle at Hoover Dam. On the other hand, it seems extremely strange to just wander around doing random stuff when, anytime someone asks you what's up, your character has to say some variation of "OH GOD WEE BABY SHAUN WHERE ARE YOU?!?" Does this help you understand where people are coming from? e: And also, regarding the battle at Hoover Dam as an inevitable ending point for the game-- all the endings coalesce here but the motivation for getting there and all the rest of it are completely unrelated to one another. Finding the institute and then either blowing it up or not blowing it up is always about finding baby Shaun, there is not other motivation you can roleplay as.
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Dec 8, 2015 08:30
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Fallout 4 doesn't let me swim to Europe to go skiing in the Alps, which is what my character really wants to do. Railroad garbage dumpster game 2/10 will not play again.
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Dec 8, 2015 08:32
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People seem to keep trying to imagine that New Vegas somehow didn't force you into certain type of character in order to do the main quest. It's exactly the same as FO4. You can create a save right before you exit the vault where you get to change your appearance again. You can exit the vault and head straight to wherever you want and completely ignore the main quest. The only time you ever have to see anything about "MY BOY SHAUN" is in a few dialog options where you can just as easily talk about your son, your spouse, you're just out fuckin around or whatever. You're never forced to acknowledge you have a son until you do the main quest. Even then, there are still dialog options where you don't have to talk about your son. If even a casual mention of something that doesn't fit into whatever weird role play you have destroys your game experience, you need to seek professional help. Seashell Salesman posted:It seems pretty natural to, as the courier, just wander around doing random stuff until for whatever reason you do enough quests for one of the factions and that leads to the battle at Hoover Dam. On the other hand, it seems extremely strange to just wander around doing random stuff when, anytime someone asks you what's up, your character has to say some variation of "OH GOD WEE BABY SHAUN WHERE ARE YOU?!?" Does this help you understand where people are coming from? I've got a really great tip for you: STOP loving CLICKING THAT DIALOG OPTION. You aren't forced to talk about Shaun in any side quests.
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Dec 8, 2015 08:35
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Back Hack posted:Did you actually play New Vegas? Because you're trying to create a parallel that doesn't exist. Not as much as most of the people who post in this thread. Until FO4 I was always more of a TES fanboy than a Fallout one, so I only have about 511 hours in it according to steam. Seashell Salesman posted:It seems pretty natural to, as the courier, just wander around doing random stuff until for whatever reason you do enough quests for one of the factions and that leads to the battle at Hoover Dam. On the other hand, it seems extremely strange to just wander around doing random stuff when, anytime someone asks you what's up, your character has to say some variation of "OH GOD WEE BABY SHAUN WHERE ARE YOU?!?" Does this help you understand where people are coming from? I dunno, if you have zero leads and zero information about where he might be then exiting the vault and going off at random is as effective a way as any to try to get some clues. As for starting then wandering off mid-quest, I like to think of it as "The closer I get to finding my boy the more dangerous things seem to get around me; I need to work at getting stronger/get better equipment/find more allies/etc or I'll never survive to find my child." E: Or perhaps I'm misunderstanding Coyote's point. I thought he was bitching because he didn't like the fact that the game's forcing a motivation on him that he doesn't care about (Finding the missing child), when more or less all games do that. khy fucked around with this message at 08:44 on Dec 8, 2015 |
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Dec 8, 2015 08:36
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Azhais posted:It's not like they made you read a 600 page autobiography of your character here either. "Hurr I'm a lawyer" is about as fleshed out as "Hurr I'm a courier". And you just have a baby instead of a bullet in the head. khy posted:Point is, there's always a story that's gonna railroad you forward. The only way to choose 'I don't want to fight at the dam' is to deliberately avoid the main quest. Otherwise you gotta pick a side. You get no ending if you don't complete the MQ. what i do want to know is if the angle on these shots seems off. they feel like they're too high but i can't really tell  
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Dec 8, 2015 08:37
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Cojawfee posted:I might be going a bit crazy with the console lately. I was trying to do a mission for the institute where you get back that synth at Libertalia and the BOS kept loving it all up. I'm supposed a meet a guy and then we head in to do the mission. The problem is I'd spawn in, go find him and then a vertibird would spawn and start attack raiders. The guy I'm meeting also aggros and now I can't even talk to him. I ended up reloading a save and just deleting the vertibird out of thin air. This left the BOS guys just hovering there so I had to individually delete them too. That will show them to crash my party. I had this happen as well, the first time it did I ended up waiting until he killed everyone, but then he proceeded to walk to the entire other side of the area, killing everyone in his way, before I could talk to him. Second time, I walked until I found the fast travel point, made sure the vertibird was coming, then fast travelled far away and back so the combat resolved. That worked very well.
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Dec 8, 2015 08:39
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Azhais posted:I'm not sure what you're getting at here, all 4 final quests involve fighting at the dam Comparing a single element that is only required at the literal end of NV compared to something in F4 that you are constantly hounded by at every corner of the game is not a good comparison.
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Dec 8, 2015 08:40
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Toadsmash posted:I play all the way to level 41 on my first run through the game without ever running into a deathclaw in a situation where they actually seemed threatening. My itty bitty level 11 ninja runs into his first one INDOORS in a building otherwise full of raiders. Basically I unload a full bar of AP with a sneak attack volley that chips about 20% of its health off, then never get enough breathing room to go back into stealth and explode. I'm not nearly good enough at this game to play chicken dancing around the pillar in the room it spawns in for 10 minutes to whittle it down normally. If that's the same buiilding I'm thinking of I'm pretty sure you're supposed to nope out of there after grabbing a fusion core which unlocks a door.
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Cojawfee posted:People seem to keep trying to imagine that New Vegas somehow didn't force you into certain type of character in order to do the main quest. It's exactly the same as FO4. You can create a save right before you exit the vault where you get to change your appearance again. You can exit the vault and head straight to wherever you want and completely ignore the main quest. The only time you ever have to see anything about "MY BOY SHAUN" is in a few dialog options where you can just as easily talk about your son, your spouse, you're just out fuckin around or whatever. You're never forced to acknowledge you have a son until you do the main quest. Even then, there are still dialog options where you don't have to talk about your son. I honestly don't even remember which options I picked during these conversations because I was furiously trying to click past the male VA, but I seem to recall all of them were some personal beef stemming from the intro section. Is there another guy who will pay you to go kill Kellogg for him or something? Can the BoS tell you to track him down?
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Dec 8, 2015 08:43
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