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Return to dominaria
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# ? Dec 8, 2015 03:05 |
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# ? May 21, 2024 16:38 |
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Bread Set Jettison posted:Return to dominaria
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# ? Dec 8, 2015 03:07 |
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Not if the eldrazi and phyrexians battle there!!!!
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# ? Dec 8, 2015 03:09 |
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I mean, if we want to reduce an already post apocalyptic wasteland into absolutely nothing at all, sure! I'd rather go back when we have people reviving the brothers' old inventions and having a Mad Max knock off with artifact bikes.
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# ? Dec 8, 2015 03:14 |
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Froghammer posted:Dominaria is boring and if you like it then you're boring
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# ? Dec 8, 2015 03:16 |
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Bread Set Jettison posted:Return to dominaria This but unironically.
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# ? Dec 8, 2015 03:16 |
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It was regrowing already in Future Sight. New Benalia, Llanowar Reborn and so on. Back around to exactly the same boring stuff we had before, but without hosed up planeswalkers and Phyrexians to make it slightly interesting.
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# ? Dec 8, 2015 03:17 |
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E: The forums are a glitch.
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# ? Dec 8, 2015 03:39 |
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Froghammer posted:Maro's article today spoils Ken Nagle's mystery mechanic that a) didn't work and b) left a hole in the New Phyrexia design file so large they had to come up with something at the last minute to fix it, which turned out to be Phyrexian mana. The spoiler alert was correct, Maro's article today is super dumb.
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# ? Dec 8, 2015 04:14 |
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Gareth Gobulcoque posted:New phyrexia, Nagle wants a splashy mechanic and naturally turns to the stupid 2 card 99/99 creature from loving unglued because of course he does. Everybody is like "absolutely not", but Nagle keeps pushing it. Has to get cut for phyrexian mana. See, I think this is a very flavorful take on splicing together creatures to make phyrexian compleations and horrors in the spirit of Yawgmoth's original tinkering. Compleation is a great flavor for Phyrexia and one of the things that consistently drives their horror aspect. Except Bestow, creature enchantments, and equipment all do this better, because Ken Nagle doesn't know how to design within the existing mechanics.
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# ? Dec 8, 2015 04:23 |
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Dumb, but unsurprising. Even the best experts in any field sometimes get attached to very bad ideas. No matter how good you are, you need a few people to give honest criticism. When a well regarded leader is given absolute power and fails spectacularly, this is probably the reason why.
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# ? Dec 8, 2015 04:29 |
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Sigma-X posted:See, I think this is a very flavorful take on splicing together creatures to make phyrexian compleations and horrors in the spirit of Yawgmoth's original tinkering. Compleation is a great flavor for Phyrexia and one of the things that consistently drives their horror aspect. Also living weapon did it really well I think
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# ? Dec 8, 2015 04:41 |
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Yawgmoth posted:I want to see phyrexian slivers and if you don't then you are a butt Oh man, some Phyrexian finds one of Venser's slivers and is like, "wait, what the gently caress is this?" and they reverse-engineer it and construct a whole compleated hive and little kid me who bought all the Tempest comic books is kind of having a minor freak out in my head right now.
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# ? Dec 8, 2015 04:51 |
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Maro's forbidden mechanic just ended up being used in Hearthstone with Ysera anyway. It's not entirely the same but the concept of broken strong cards you can only get through an intermediary card is there.
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# ? Dec 8, 2015 05:04 |
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The forbidden mechanic is already in Magic, too - it's just the Wish mechanic, and tournaments have been able to support it in constructed just fine. I can see not wanting to support it in limited, though.
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# ? Dec 8, 2015 05:26 |
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I can kind of see them bringing Wishes back, it's an interesting mechanic that can be appropriately powered for Standard. However, they are completely nonfunctional in casual formats without sideboards, and there may be enough sanctioned Commander/2HG out there for that to matter.
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# ? Dec 8, 2015 05:40 |
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Ranpire posted:The forbidden mechanic is already in Magic, too - it's just the Wish mechanic, and tournaments have been able to support it in constructed just fine. I can see not wanting to support it in limited, though. I think they have already said at some point the Wish mechanic isn't coming back except in reprints because while it dose promote these crazy wishboards and fun; it's hard to play against/around and is generally confusing for people outside of a tournament. Personally I quite like it in a limited format though. I wish MODO Cube supported it cause that would be fun. Though then you'd just get (more) broken poo poo; but it's cube so broken poo poo is half the fun.
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# ? Dec 8, 2015 05:42 |
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Bread Set Jettison posted:Not if the eldrazi and phyrexians battle there!!!! Return to Phyrexia, the real one, even though that never actually happened. I'm sure some kind of evil poo poo is still there.
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# ? Dec 8, 2015 05:50 |
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Allstone posted:Maro actually posted on his tumblr that they could reprint split second - they'd just rejig the reminder text. I wouldn't quit Magic, but I'd quit judging. The name "split second" is the worst thing Wizards has ever done to judges. I was just starting out judging then, but I became exhausted trying to convince people that "split second" didn't mean they could just ignore priority, or ignore timing restrictions, or prevent triggered abilities from entering the stack, or freeze the stack and force the whole thing to resolve. I remember an argument over it so intense that a drink was thrown before I even got to the table to give a ruling. It involved Extirpate and Seething Song.
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# ? Dec 8, 2015 06:26 |
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BJPaskoff posted:I wouldn't quit Magic, but I'd quit judging. The name "split second" is the worst thing Wizards has ever done to judges. I was just starting out judging then, but I became exhausted trying to convince people that "split second" didn't mean they could just ignore priority, or ignore timing restrictions, or prevent triggered abilities from entering the stack, or freeze the stack and force the whole thing to resolve. I remember an argument over it so intense that a drink was thrown before I even got to the table to give a ruling. It involved Extirpate and Seething Song.
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# ? Dec 8, 2015 07:28 |
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Allstone posted:Who knows, the reminder text could end up being "(When you cast this spell, players can’t cast spells or activate abilities that aren’t mana abilities until it resolves. <Something something this doesn't mean you ignore timing, priority, or triggered abilities>)". I really doubt they don't look for judge feedback on reminder text amendments. "When" is misleading because it makes it sound like a triggered ability. I'd go with something like "Players can't [...] between the time this spell is cast and the time it resolves." But the more important point is the fact that you (meaning Wizards) are never going to win the arms race with people who are congenitally unable to parse any but the simplest rules text, so you may as well just concede that particular battle and let the rest of us have cool things.
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# ? Dec 8, 2015 07:33 |
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Ranpire posted:The forbidden mechanic is already in Magic, too - it's just the Wish mechanic, and tournaments have been able to support it in constructed just fine. I can see not wanting to support it in limited, though. Wishes are about getting cards outside the game. Forbidden is about printing impossibly busted cards and trying to balance them by making you jump through hoops to get them. Just happens to be really similar hoops as wishes.
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# ? Dec 8, 2015 07:37 |
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If I'm really bad at sealed would participating in a GP be a bad idea? GP Vancouver is coming up and it's 60 CAD for the sealed event, the promo, the playmat and a $20 side event voucher, so I'm tempted to just skip the OGW prerelease and go to that instead.
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# ? Dec 8, 2015 08:18 |
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superstepa posted:If I'm really bad at sealed would participating in a GP be a bad idea? GP Vancouver is coming up and it's 60 CAD for the sealed event, the promo, the playmat and a $20 side event voucher, so I'm tempted to just skip the OGW prerelease and go to that instead. As a fellow Canadian who lives 17 hours away from the nearest GP location, gently caress you if you do this thing, go to the GP E: I parsed that as skipping the GP for the prerelease, sorry, go to the GP TheKingofSprings fucked around with this message at 08:26 on Dec 8, 2015 |
# ? Dec 8, 2015 08:21 |
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JerryLee posted:"When" is misleading because it makes it sound like a triggered ability. I'd go with something like "Players can't [...] between the time this spell is cast and the time it resolves." Wouldn't it just say "When you cast this spell, no other spells can be cast until it resolves" or something?
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# ? Dec 8, 2015 08:22 |
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Angry Grimace posted:Wouldn't it just say "When you cast this spell, no other spells can be cast until it resolves" or something? no player may cast spells or activate abilities.
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# ? Dec 8, 2015 08:31 |
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Sigma-X posted:no player may cast spells or activate abilities. judge help how does this work with my Deep-Sea Kraken
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# ? Dec 8, 2015 09:00 |
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Is Ken Nagle literally the most consistently bad designer of ever?
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# ? Dec 8, 2015 09:43 |
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Lancelot posted:Is Ken Nagle literally the most consistently bad designer of ever? I really don't like Ken Nagle, but I think we tend to hear a lot more about his successes than his failures because his failures are so outlandish.
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# ? Dec 8, 2015 09:46 |
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Yeah Maro has said that Nagle's main strength is his ability to think way outside the box. Sometimes the box is there for a reason, though, and it doesn't work out, and then we hear about it and make fun of him. Also he had a really stupid Phyrexian costume one time.
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# ? Dec 8, 2015 09:59 |
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superstepa posted:If I'm really bad at sealed would participating in a GP be a bad idea? GP Vancouver is coming up and it's 60 CAD for the sealed event, the promo, the playmat and a $20 side event voucher, so I'm tempted to just skip the OGW prerelease and go to that instead. My plan is to go to the GP, maybe scrub out to play side events. And Drink Heavily. If anybody wants to hangout and drink beers after nerd cards, or play nerd cards or do a drink and draft or whatever at GP Van, well I'll be the guy who knows good local places to drink. Also Bon's for breakfast.
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# ? Dec 8, 2015 10:28 |
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Nagle is apparently good at churning out designs which makes him a good design team member, but all his leads have been flawed at best (WWK, NPH, RTR, BTG, FRF) http://archive.wizards.com/Magic/magazine/article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/feature/283 Check out #7 and #10 for the depths of his insanity
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# ? Dec 8, 2015 13:20 |
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Barry Shitpeas posted:Nagle is apparently good at churning out designs which makes him a good design team member, but all his leads have been flawed at best (WWK, NPH, RTR, BTG, FRF) I love the comments. TML 11/27/2012: Now makes lands indestructible. Hooray! Also is gold because I guess this just is gold and all our mythic rares are gold forever.
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# ? Dec 8, 2015 13:39 |
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Angry Grimace posted:Wouldn't it just say "When you cast this spell, no other spells can be cast until it resolves" or something? Again, "when" has a special meaning in magic. It means it's a triggered ability, which means that you could respond to it.
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# ? Dec 8, 2015 16:57 |
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As you cast this spell, no player can cast other spells or activate non-mana abilities until it resolves.
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# ? Dec 8, 2015 17:00 |
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quote:NAGLE! quote:Split Second
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# ? Dec 8, 2015 17:16 |
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Nagle also catches flak for structural issues that were not his decision - I.e, BNG getting its mechanics gutted for JOU, and worldwake having two major development failures in it. SFM was a planning failure too.
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# ? Dec 8, 2015 17:29 |
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Ramos posted:As you cast this spell, no player can cast other spells or activate non-mana abilities until it resolves. Some Numbers posted:Until this spell resolves, players cannot play spells or activate abilities. Triggered abilities still trigger.
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# ? Dec 8, 2015 17:42 |
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Nagle is a big doodoo head!!! I think the dude is creative, and thinks up some weird rear end designs which is both A) Great for keeping the game fresh and B) lovely for trying to balance the game with weird new mechanics. Him dressing up like a phyrexian is still funny though. He also has some less-than-favorable quotes like how he designed a few cards with some of his EDH decks in mind, but thats pretty minor in my book since Im sure every designer who still actively plays does something similar.
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# ? Dec 8, 2015 17:54 |
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# ? May 21, 2024 16:38 |
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Nagle hates dredge which makes me dread him returning to set leads. I hope he gets therapy for his grave trolling. He really shouldn't burn his bridges with graveyard creatures, I hope he comes to some kind of breakthrough with that angle of design. Um that said what the gently caress wizards the problem with your coverage was definitely that there was too much of it? http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/news/magic-tournament-video-coverage-2016-2015-12-08 oh maybe it's not all awful news: quote:Finally, we look forward to adding some new faces to Magic coverage in 2016. We will announce the lineup of who you can expect to see, hear from, and read from in early 2016. We're really excited to tell you who will be working with us to bring you the best coverage possible. Zoness fucked around with this message at 18:01 on Dec 8, 2015 |
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