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SRM posted:Holy poo poo they still have Kyromek models! I grew up painting those and playing homebrew rules. My paintjobs from then would serve as pretty appropriate thread content, but the models are dope in that 90s way. We should buy all the dino riders and send em to BuffChix  JcDent posted:http://www.scotiagrendel.com/Products/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=217_218_59_63&products_id=2570 It'd work pretty well for a Sqiuggoth too.
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I bought the Battletech Starter Box and it includes a wonderful guide on painting. All the example models are the ugliest, most garish pieces of poo poo I've ever seen. I know the game is 80s as gently caress, but c'mon!
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Colonial Air Force posted:I bought the Battletech Starter Box and it includes a wonderful guide on painting. All the example models are the ugliest, most garish pieces of poo poo I've ever seen. Those horrible chunky ridiculous robots own. 
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Dec 8, 2015 14:38
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The models are fine (for what they are), the painting in the guide is utter garbage. The camospecs.com website isn't as bad, though, so I can't get examples.
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Colonial Air Force posted:The models are fine (for what they are), the painting in the guide is utter garbage. Scan it if you can, the world needs to see this.
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Dec 8, 2015 16:06
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There's a store near me that bought up a ton of Kryomek, I really should try to pick some of that up cheap before it disappears.
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Urban War isn't actually from the 90s, it's an early 2000s reboot/reimagining of VOID by Urban Mammoth. VOID 1.1 is actually owned by Scotia Grendel, and the models still hold up well, since they're mostly Kev White sculpts. The game is really good, too. Basically 40k 3E, except properly balanced and well-written.
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Dec 9, 2015 01:15
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Man, I remember when I just got into 40K and I remember realizing there were these other games out there like VOID, Celtos, VOR: The Maelstrom, and just being really... awestruck? I guess at the breadth and depth of the miniature wargaming hobby. Unfortunately almost no one played anything but 40K and WHFB though I did manage to get into Battletech and CAV. And then I realize that now there's similarly a shitload of cool games out there. Feels good!
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Gravitas Shortfall posted:Scan it if you can, the world needs to see this. So this is the one they guide you through painting:  And then they have some other "good" examples:   
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Dec 9, 2015 02:00
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Good, honest house colours.
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Dec 9, 2015 02:07
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I see nothing wrong with any of these.
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goatface posted:Good, honest house colours. The warriors of house Nice Boys
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Dec 9, 2015 02:14
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In terms of paint job (not sculpt), most of those would be upgrades over much of the poo poo I've seen on the table
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Dec 9, 2015 03:06
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Did they purposely paint the Cyclops to look like a dickbot or do I just have issues?
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jodai posted:Did they purposely paint the Cyclops to look like a dickbot or do I just have issues? Cyclops is a greek word that means 'ER Large Laser'. You just have your mind in the gutter.
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Dec 9, 2015 03:42
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Hey, the Banshee and the Hunchback look go... OH MY GOD THE CYCLOPS Oh, so Void is a good ruleset? I keep mistaking its name with VOR and that gamevhad infantry statlines that would make hams cry.
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Dec 9, 2015 07:42
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There's something about Battletech models. Whenever I have seen pictures of them the paintjobs have been of a quality to put the Fighting Tigers of Vega to shame. It's like there is a weird gentlemens agreement that they all have to look like poo poo.
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Dec 9, 2015 08:43
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If I ever played Battletech I'd run nothing but Jenner mechs.
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Dec 9, 2015 08:59
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Somewhere I have all my Btech stuff painted in bright pink with purple hazard striping. Garish is just how you roll with that game.
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Dec 9, 2015 09:09
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Why is every battletech model only okay looking at the best of times? It's not hard to make the mechs look waaaaaaaay cooler but they stick with the super awkward and dumpy 80s designs.
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Dec 9, 2015 09:21
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Probably connected to the twenty-odd years that they didn't have the rights to the best designs.
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Dec 9, 2015 09:39
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The best thing anyone could do for battletech is reboot it, throw out literally all the battletech art that was ever produced and then hire artists that don't know anything about battletech.
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Dec 9, 2015 10:33
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Maybe pay someone to rough up the old artists too
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Improbable Lobster posted:Maybe pay someone to rough up the old artists too I'll fight you over any insults to Atlases, Hunchbacks, Jaguars, Mad Cats and a smattering of other mechs I rode in Mechwarrior 4. Unless you mean miniature sculpters specifically. Or whatever bunch of loonies painted them.
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Improbable Lobster posted:Why is every battletech model only okay looking at the best of times? It's not hard to make the mechs look waaaaaaaay cooler but they stick with the super awkward and dumpy 80s designs. The problem is not so much the designs as the sculpts. Mechwarrior Online made many of these designs actually look good (it's still a garbage game, but it looked amazing). The designs are mostly fine.   
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Dec 9, 2015 11:32
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I love how one of the mechs is just called Clint. Truly the lost intimidating of names.
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Improbable Lobster posted:The best thing anyone could do for battletech is reboot it, throw out literally all the battletech art that was ever produced and then hire artists that don't know anything about battletech. The newer generation of artists (flying debris, Xarbala here on SA) actually produce very good art. It's a shame they would actually take years to re-imagine all the poo poo that has built up in the 80s though.
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That Jagermech is a work of art, and I won't hear otherwise.
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One of the good things that GW did for the miniatures gaming hobby as a whole was to raise the bar in what professionally painted miniatures looked like at a time when poo poo like that was all you ever saw - even in manufacturer's catalogues or rulebooks. Outside of serious diorama hobbyists who were all about rivet counting historical stuff, no-one was really trying to push forward painting as a craft in the mainstream until then. I remember having one of the editions of Battlesystem (the AD&D mass combat rules), and in the back was a section about miniatures and painting. The examples were loving horrible. They had closeups of Elf faces to show you 'the incredible detail' but it looked as though someone had thrown a couple of fried eggs at someone with severe burns.
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I like how one of those robots is literally named the AWS-8Q "Awesome."
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Wait What!? http://www.ralparthaeurope.co.uk/shop/vor-c-55/ VOR: The Maelstrom is still available?! Holey moley
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It doesn't help that battletech grognards are the worst grognards and everytime someone comes up with a better-looking modernized mech design, you have basement-dwelling neckbeards rising to the ramparts about how those old designs have SPIRIT and CHARM and how the new models are OFFENSIVE TO THE SPIRIT OF THE GAME. This is a game whose core ruleset has not changed at all in the last twenty-five years, it's just had more and more crap piled onto it. It's the exact same with the models.
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I like the old chunky designs and the archaic spreadsheet clunky rules  .But I recognize there's a reason (OK, several reasons) nobody really plays it anymore, and super-dated models and ridiculous amounts of book-keeping are basically those reasons. I haven't tried Alpha Strike which is supposed to streamline the rules quite a bit, but that doesn't address the model design.
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Drake_263 posted:It doesn't help that battletech grognards are the worst grognards and everytime someone comes up with a better-looking modernized mech design, you have basement-dwelling neckbeards rising to the ramparts about how those old designs have SPIRIT and CHARM and how the new models are OFFENSIVE TO THE SPIRIT OF THE GAME. So like GW grognards that poo poo on AoS and laud the old "charming" models of yesteryear? I'm one of those people btw. Nostalgia is a hell of a drug.
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Some of the sculpts for the Mechwarrior clix game weren't awful. If they just got a few sculptors from the 21st century they could make some great models based on those old designs and the designs from the Mechwarrior video games.
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Indolent Bastard posted:So like GW grognards that poo poo on AoS and laud the old "charming" models of yesteryear? I'm one of those people btw. Nostalgia is a hell of a drug. I've seen a Simarine live. The head is soooo tiny. I actually never read people complaining about AoS models replacing good ol' charming ones; when it comes up, AoS models are said to be bad by themselves. Also, I would never want to paint any of the AoS named characters or heroes of anything aside from Sigmarines. That stuff looks extremely fiddly, too detailed, fragile... and expensive, to boot.  Hey, this guy doesn't look half bad.
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JcDent posted:I've seen a Simarine live. The head is soooo tiny. I guess it's less about replacement (though AoS did replace Fantasy) but more about the evolution of GW minis from simple to vastly overblown.
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Indolent Bastard posted:I guess it's less about replacement (though AoS did replace Fantasy) but more about the evolution of GW minis from simple to vastly overblown.
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Geisladisk posted:The problem is not so much the designs as the sculpts. Mechwarrior Online made many of these designs actually look good (it's still a garbage game, but it looked amazing). The designs are mostly fine.  might have ballsed up on making MWO into the game promised and instead spent years cranking out microtransactions items, but their art department did successfully update Battletech to look like my nostalgia gland insisted that it had always looked.
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SRM posted:Some of the sculpts for the Mechwarrior clix game weren't awful. If they just got a few sculptors from the 21st century they could make some great models based on those old designs and the designs from the Mechwarrior video games. Yeah, when the mechs are being done by people who know what they're doing they look fine but the miniatures are universally awful
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