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Obeast posted:With all this trackball talk, I'm kinda sad that nobody ever brings up the thumbball setup where you move the ball with your thumb. I posted about this one in particular before way earlier this year, but this has been my mouse since probably the early-mid 2000s, and it's seen me through more than a few FPSes using inverted y-axis because that's how the cool dudes roll (although I admit to using non-inverted camera controls when using a gamepad for some odd reason that I can't even explain aside from that it feels more comfortable to me My trackball has about the same placement:  And it's only $27 new or $17 used on Amazon (the Logitech M570). So if yours ever breaks, consider this, or the wired version which is the same molding and a usb cable out the front.
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Dec 8, 2015 15:42
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fishmech posted:My trackball has about the same placement: I've used this, and I really can't do any sort of accurate pointing or aiming with just my thumb. I'm using the Kensington Expert Mouse trackball right now, and love it.  Clicking with the thumb (left button) and pinky (right button) is a bit weird at first, but this thing is incredible. Great for audio/video editings as well.
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Dec 8, 2015 15:59
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daft punk railroad posted:http://www.othersidetease.com/strawberry.php I wonder how much of SS2's dumb ending they'll ignore.
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Dec 8, 2015 15:59
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SS3 will probably be closer to Bioshock Infinite than SS2 but that's okay
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Dec 8, 2015 16:47
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Zaphod42 posted:SS3 will probably be closer to Bioshock Infinite than SS2 but that's okay No. No it's not.
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Dec 8, 2015 17:08
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To be honest Bioshock 1 & 2 are closer to the original System Shock in terms of mechanics than SS2.
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Dec 8, 2015 17:35
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Zaphod42 posted:SS3 will probably be closer to Bioshock Infinite than SS2 but that's okay That is the opposite of okay, and will very likely not happen.
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Dec 8, 2015 17:37
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System Shock 3's hamfisted stupid big twist is that the protagonist is actually SHODAN all along who has amnesia by the end of the game and time travels back in time and gets her brain uploaded into a computer which becomes an AI. The kind of stupid twist Bioshock Infinite had. Also lots of enemies in arenas with bad shooting.
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Dec 8, 2015 17:44
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Mr. Fortitude posted:System Shock 3's hamfisted stupid big twist is that the protagonist is actually SHODAN all along who has amnesia by the end of the game and time travels back in time and gets her brain uploaded into a computer which becomes an AI. The first part would at least fit with the ending of SS2.
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Dec 8, 2015 17:50
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Speaking of which, sshock2 is discounted to basically nothing and the first game is half off on GOG right now: http://www.gog.com/game/system_shock_2
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Dec 8, 2015 17:51
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Zaphod42 posted:SS3 will probably be closer to Bioshock Infinite than SS2 but that's okay It won't be because 1) You need a multi-million dollar budget to make a game like that and this will be made on a shoestring in someone's garage, and 2) they're going for a Kickstarter no doubt and those are pretty much fueled by playing to peoples nostalgia.
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Dec 8, 2015 17:56
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SparkTR posted:It won't be because 1) You need a multi-million dollar budget to make a game like that and this will be made on a shoestring in someone's garage, and 2) they're going for a Kickstarter no doubt and those are pretty much fueled by playing to peoples nostalgia. I think they meant in terms of mechanics instead of production value.
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Dec 8, 2015 18:12
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Segmentation Fault posted:I think they meant in terms of mechanics instead of production value.  thankyou seg fault
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Dec 8, 2015 18:14
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PaletteSwappedNinja posted:Also, don't play Turok. Without a doubt the worst advice ever to grace this thread. Turok 1 and 2 own and will always own. Everyone better buy and play the remasters when they come out. I'm just glad I can finally experience Turok 2 at a playable framerate!
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Dec 8, 2015 18:19
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Got into a disagreement over whether the new doom game alpha is slow or notFunkmaster General posted:Yeah, I don't know what to say then. It really doesn't feel slow to me AT ALL. I played OG Doom just a few days ago, and this feels very nearly as fast as that (without run toggled on permanently, anyway). It's certainly the fastest modern shooter at the moment with the possible exception of that new Unreal game, which I haven't played. Maybe it's just that you can't sprint? There are people who play doom without always-run?  What.
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Dec 8, 2015 18:32
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Zaphod42 posted:There are people who play doom without always-run? I put it into auto-run and don't even bother binding a run key because it's not needed, even when you need precision in a level like The Chasm. I'm not sure why anyone would bother with it at all.
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Dec 8, 2015 18:52
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Zaphod42 posted:Got into a disagreement over whether the new doom game alpha is slow or not
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Dec 8, 2015 19:00
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I'm still waiting for the alpha to become a beta because I think that's what I'm supposed to get access to as a WolfTNO pre-orderer
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Dec 8, 2015 19:05
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BattleMaster posted:I put it into auto-run and don't even bother binding a run key because it's not needed, even when you need precision in a level like The Chasm. I'm not sure why anyone would bother with it at all. I seriously can't imagine playing Doom and walking everywhere. What in the gently caress.
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Dec 8, 2015 19:11
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i'm gonna go ahead and say there are a lot of people who think the game is fast enough without sprinting, and very few parts of the original game that require running to get across gaps. because you can play and beat the original levels without running in many cases.
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Dec 8, 2015 19:15
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spongeh posted:i'm gonna go ahead and say there are a lot of people who think the game is fast enough without sprinting, and very few parts of the original game that require running to get across gaps. because you can play and beat the original levels without running in many cases. Sure you *can* but the SSG is going to lose half its usefulness when played that way, and you won't be able to dodge rockets or anything like that. You'll get hit by stupid poo poo like imp fireballs all the time.
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Dec 8, 2015 19:16
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Since this is the only thread where anyone has mentioned UT4 or UT (2015) or whatever the heck anyone is calling it, I figured I'd just put my thoughts in (especially in relation to the Doom Alpha stuff): So far it plays/feels like a very pretty UT2k4. Granted, the placeholder stuff (most announcer/bot speak) is definitely helping in that regard, since I'm pretty sure most of it is from either UT or UT2k4, but it's fast just like it should be, and I'm quite enjoying it. Also, even medium difficulty is relatively difficult (I love UT but I'm very bad at it). It's buggy as all get out, but it is an Alpha, so the horrific memory leaks I experienced are kinda expected presently. But for the cost of nothing, it's really neat to see how it's coming along. Hopefully the weird marketplace thing is realistic (maybe do giant official mappacks for $10-15 or something) and the Epic launcher becomes less...well, what it is. But otherwise, I'm really happy they haven't hosed with a good thing despite the lackluster response for UT3 (which was just fine, if a bit stupidly grimdark).
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Dec 8, 2015 19:17
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Zaphod42 posted:Sure you *can* but the SSG is going to lose half its usefulness when played that way, and you won't be able to dodge rockets or anything like that. The speed and the fact that most monsters especially in Doom II fire slower projectiles inadvertently created beautiful gameplay that's more like a first-person bullet hell game in levels with some open space so lol at anyone who thinks the game is fast enough without running.
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Dec 8, 2015 19:19
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Yeah I'm enjoying UT (2015 or whatever, wish games would stop rebooting their names) Doesn't hurt that they played the classic UT'99 music on the menu. Man does that ever get me fired up. It shoots and feels like a proper UT, like you said pretty much UT2k4 which was probably my favorite. Epic's too busy just making Unreal Engine and licencing it out at this point to care about games very much, but its cool they at least have this as a tech demo. BattleMaster posted:The speed and the fact that most monsters especially in Doom II fire slower projectiles inadvertently created beautiful gameplay that's more like a first-person bullet hell game in levels with some open space so lol at anyone who thinks the game is fast enough without running. Agreed. Doom is more like first-person Robotron or Geometry Wars than any modern FPS. The idea of using sprint selectively is ridiculous.
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Dec 8, 2015 19:19
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Holy poo poo this is an amazing deal: https://www.bundlestars.com/en/bundle/killer-bundle-6 $5 gets you:
All Steam keys. Also the 3DR anthology will be delisted from Steam in 3 weeks so go buy it now unless you hate fun
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Dec 8, 2015 19:52
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Convex posted:Holy poo poo this is an amazing deal: drat, I already have most of these games. Including Lichdom which I foolishly purchased in Early Access. Still a good deal though, probably pick it up for the few games I don't have yet.
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Dec 8, 2015 19:55
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I think the "sprint" command should bring a character from fast to sanic. The only game where the standard speed being walking actually worked was the STALKER series and that's a whole different kind of game than "blast demons in the face then cackle madly as you run away and weave through a torrent of green goo being thrown"
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Dec 8, 2015 19:57
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BattleMaster posted:The speed and the fact that most monsters especially in Doom II fire slower projectiles inadvertently created beautiful gameplay that's more like a first-person bullet hell game in levels with some open space so lol at anyone who thinks the game is fast enough without running. Which is why maps that don't give you any space to dodge are almost universally terrible. 
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Dec 8, 2015 20:05
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Zaphod42 posted:Agreed. Doom is more like first-person Robotron or Geometry Wars than any modern FPS. Killing two topics with one stone, the lead designer of Bioshock 2 also happened to make this exact statement a few years back (really good article actually)
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Dec 8, 2015 20:12
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Convex posted:Killing two topics with one stone, the lead designer of Bioshock 2 also happened to make this exact statement a few years back (really good article actually) Was that the guy who made a youtube play-through/commentary of EP1 with Romero?
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Dec 8, 2015 20:14
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spongeh posted:very few parts of the original game that require running to get across gaps. because you can play and beat the original levels without running in many cases.
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Dec 8, 2015 20:28
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Tippis posted:Was that the guy who made a youtube play-through/commentary of EP1 with Romero? yep (not the overall lead on BioShock 2 by the way... but lead level designer I think)
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Dec 8, 2015 20:28
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The Kins posted:See, now, if I'd known that this is what the thread would degrade into after linking that System Shock teaser page... Well, when you first posted it I was like, "oh, huh, neat" and I only realised just what was happening when I woke up this morning. Guess I was too shocked for it to really sink in. Although I hope it's more SS2 than Bioshock. Speaking of, I liked Infinite ok, but I reinstalled Shadow Warrior and drat, that's the real top shooter of 2013. Hoji is a way better partner than Elizabeth. Edit: vv I know, right? I did not expect Shadow Warrior of all games to be like that. catlord fucked around with this message at 21:25 on Dec 8, 2015 |
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Dec 8, 2015 20:48
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catlord posted:Well, when you first posted it I was like, "oh, huh, neat" and I only realised just what was happening when I woke up this morning. Guess I was too shocked for it to really sink in. Although I hope it's more SS2 than Bioshock. Hoji is the loving best and the weird hate friendship him and Lo'wang share is both hilarious, heartwarming and tragic as all goddamned gently caress. Between him and Wang never landing any good one-liners, that game told its story a thousand times better then Infinite did.
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Dec 8, 2015 21:10
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Anime Schoolgirl posted:I think the "sprint" command should bring a character from fast to sanic. I like this idea. I'm going to do something with this idea.
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Dec 8, 2015 21:20
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TerminusEst13 posted:I like this idea. Holding down sprint brings up the blown out Green Hill Zone like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtUwmTAyP24
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Dec 8, 2015 21:38
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Segmentation Fault posted:Holding down sprint brings up the blown out Green Hill Zone like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_VnIJMhRxY
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Dec 8, 2015 21:49
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idk about you guys but i play thief gold with only gameplay and display resolution improvements from tfix. i keep the graphics as-is because i wanna preserve that early dark engine feeling
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Dec 8, 2015 22:21
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Linguica posted:You need to run to cross that gap in Map02, right? Yea that's the one i had in mind in specific, but I can't remember much of D2 past map01-07, downtown, and 30-32 so there are probably a couple more.
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Dec 8, 2015 22:31
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