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Runefaust posted:Is there good reason to farm company seals besides hot sweaty Chocobo action? This is literally the farthest I achieved in my attempt to play it on PC. Edit: Garbage post at the top of a page, here is a screenshot of me playing hide and seek with Marberry. 
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I have 3 reagan peppers (48k) sitting on a retainer just from spending down seals
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Dec 8, 2015 06:46
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fyi you can buy those for like 20 hunt seals I spend all my GC seals on ventures and cordials.
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Dec 8, 2015 06:49
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And dark matter 6, because I'm a goddamn cheapskate that somehow always winds up repairing in the middle of fights. 
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Dec 8, 2015 06:51
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dark matter 6 is available for some trivial amount of gil from the npcs in town who sell all the other dark matters
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Dec 8, 2015 07:04
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hobbesmaster posted:Just split the difference and go DRK. I'm the crazy person whose first three battle classes were all tanks, and while I do like DRK's playstyle I always feel like I'm doing something wrong by not riding my MP as hard as possible while also making sure I don't run out. I'm at least going to get my Anima weapon for PLD first and if they happen to improve it in 3.2, I'll stick with it, but if it's still lovely I'll give DRK another shot.
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Dec 8, 2015 07:08
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"Guys I'm so survivable!" ~something irrelevant to tanking.
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Dec 8, 2015 08:20
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I do all my non raiding content as DRK since nobody can hold threat off my DRG anyway I like DRK
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Dec 8, 2015 12:10
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Griz posted:dark matter 6 is available for some trivial amount of gil from the npcs in town who sell all the other dark matters They are like 120 gil each. The standard FC merchant sells them along with the dyes and other stuff. If you have the seals to buy dark matters or peppers just stockpile enough Ventures to last until 4.0.
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Dec 8, 2015 14:25
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ilifinicus posted:I do all my non raiding content as DRK since nobody can hold threat off my DRG anyway That's why I just DRGtank things. Yesterday it was the tree thing in void ark. A few days ago I tanked echidna for the entire final phase after the final snake phase. I've got over 16k with food and decent healers can handle most of the damage coming in.
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Tortolia posted:They are like 120 gil each. The standard FC merchant sells them along with the dyes and other stuff.
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Dec 8, 2015 15:00
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Ambaire posted:Why is the starting machinist quest so retarded? I killed the first two sets of mobs fine but I couldn't find the goddamn docile tigers. I killed every goddamn mob in the entire duty zone and nothing. So I just deleted the weapon and abandoned the quest. gently caress machinist. And yes I tried googling docile tigers. Nothing. Like Rostnthal says, they're along the path to the hermit's hut to the north. Joye will lead you to them. If you'd like to try again, you can rebuy the gun from the Machinist guild. For reference, here's a guy doing that quest: http://youtu.be/JnaZzcsPc9M The Chairman fucked around with this message at 15:05 on Dec 8, 2015 |
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Dec 8, 2015 15:03
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Mr. Nice! posted:if you have cul desynth high enough you can buy 6 urushi for 3600 seals and turn that into a better crowned pie in mor dhona. These will desynth into a water cluster every time and randomly a tiny crown, an electrum ring, an FC2 Demi or an FC3 demimateria. Or you can flip coke on the mb. True. The coke/potash market looked to crumble when they added the bulk ordering feature but I don't keep a close eye on it.
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Dec 8, 2015 15:07
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Belzac posted:"Guys I'm so survivable!" ~something irrelevant to tanking. Thanks for the input, man.
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Dec 8, 2015 15:21
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Tortolia posted:True. The coke/potash market looked to crumble when they added the bulk ordering feature but I don't keep a close eye on it.
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Dec 8, 2015 15:29
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Mr. Nice! posted:That's why I just DRGtank things. Yesterday it was the tree thing in void ark. A few days ago I tanked echidna for the entire final phase after the final snake phase. I've got over 16k with food and decent healers can handle most of the damage coming in. Give Dragoons a "Lesser Tanking Stance" and turn them into inverted Warriors. Thanks in advance, YoshiP.
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Dec 8, 2015 15:48
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Thyrork posted:Give Dragoons a "Lesser Tanking Stance" and turn them into inverted Warriors. Thanks in advance, YoshiP. Make Dragoons like Ninjas from XI where they weren't intended as tanks but if you use the skills right... give them like a really long superjump for avoiding boss smashes while holding agro and then yeah, some kinda 'dragon armor' stance. Also please add Samurai and make them a damage class.
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Dec 8, 2015 16:17
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Runefaust posted:Hit 23 today and reached the point at which I'm farming company seals to get my fancy Chocobo. Is there good reason to farm company seals besides hot sweaty Chocobo action? This is literally the farthest I achieved in my attempt to play it on PC. In addition to what everyone else has mentioned, be sure to get enough seals to turn in for promotions in your GC. There are a few things locked behind the higher ranks that will become more relevant as you keep playing.
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Tortolia posted:True. The coke/potash market looked to crumble when they added the bulk ordering feature but I don't keep a close eye on it. Aqueous whetstones tend to sometimes have pretty good value. They're required for some airship crafting as well as some 50-60 crafting recipes. If coke has tanked, look at that as an alternative.
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Dec 8, 2015 16:36
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quote:I hope I'll never see [Hildibrand Manderville] ever again. He's unfunny.
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Dec 8, 2015 16:45
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The first OF quote that's absolutely true.
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Dec 8, 2015 16:55
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Ban this sick filth.
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Dec 8, 2015 17:13
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So how hard is Ramuh EX? Because Thunderclap would look loving swank with the Void Ark tanking gear.  And can you Undersize it and still get weapons?
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Dec 8, 2015 17:51
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Thyrork posted:So how hard is Ramuh EX? Because Thunderclap would look loving swank with the Void Ark tanking gear. I can speak for the difficulty of the fight itself but I can confirm loot still drops with undersized, ran Garuda/Titan/Ifrit/Leviathan EX yesterday and they dropped loot. Also Ifrit dropped two mounts (one of them being Nightmare) and I didn't get either.
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Dec 8, 2015 17:55
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Holyshoot posted:No I mean the 10 second buff goes up but you don't get hit for a killing blow so the cheat death doesn't proc. Thus it was a waste. Where as pld one is never a waste. if you believe this then A: your healers are not playing smart and B: you don't really understand the central utility
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Agreed. But I still couldn't live without /mdance or /hildy so it all works out.
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Oneavi posted:if you believe this then A: your healers are not playing smart and B: you don't really understand the central utility It's great as a planned, ignore/trivialize tank buster move or some other mechanic. It's not so great as a panic button
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Thyrork posted:So how hard is Ramuh EX? Because Thunderclap would look loving swank with the Void Ark tanking gear. Undersized at 60, bring 2 DPS and either 1 tank/2 heal or 2 tank/1 heal. 1 tank/1 heal could probably work too with a good SCH and a DRK or WAR for the non-magic self heals. Goal is around 5 people total. Having fewer people makes that fight mechanically easier, mostly because it makes zapping charmed people a lot easier when a higher percentage of the group gets targeted. And at 60, it's not like you need a full party to make any DPS checks. On the other hand, you can probably just heal/live/revive people as necessary and just blunder through with a full party ignoring as many mechanics as you can. Hmm. You've still gotta kill the adds (and stop DPSing Ramuh in the process so you don't push him to go boom early, though you usually only see that happen in hard mode), because that's still a wipe if you don't. And it's still a good idea to handle lightning orbs properly (which as it's always been, is considerably simpler with 1 tank rather than 2). Although I wouldn't be surprised if a DRK could eat a Shock Strike to the face without the buff and just shrug. On a related tangent, Leviathan's also mechanically easier at 60 with a smaller group. Too much DPS does some really weird, confusing, and sometimes dangerous things to phase changes. Vil fucked around with this message at 18:50 on Dec 8, 2015 |
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Pews posted:It's great as a planned, ignore/trivialize tank buster move or some other mechanic. It's not so great as a panic button None of your cooldowns should be panic buttons.
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Dec 8, 2015 19:03
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If you're playing a tank and have "panic" buttons your not playing tank well.
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Mr. Nice! fucked around with this message at 19:09 on Dec 8, 2015 |
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Dec 8, 2015 19:07
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Doable if you get all the alliances there and have some tank LBs to pop if/when you get two AOEs covering the island in the ~30 seconds it takes to burn down the first brachy with multiple alliances focusing it. 
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Fister Roboto posted:None of your cooldowns should be panic buttons. Belzac posted:If you're playing a tank and have "panic" buttons your not playing tank well. If you're playing a class and don't understand its toolkit then you aren't playing it very well. There are some abilities that are just as effective when used at 100% hp as they are when used at 20%. Those would make good "panic buttons". When raid encounters are completely timed out and you can plan 100% for all boss abilities and cd usage, then yes you have no need for a panic button. But that's not saying they don't exist. Healers also have panic buttons... Lustrate and tetragrammaton are not often planned out and are usually saved for an emergency situation. You want to utilize them as mana-free options to work into your healing rotation but that's really not ideal either. I feel like maybe you guys just don't understand what is meant by the term.
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You know the kinds of attacks to expect from bosses and you generally know that large pulls can dish out a lot of damage, so you know which cooldowns you're going to use for those situations. You're not going to use every cooldown. You don't know when your pubbie healer is going to faff off and forget they're playing an MMO momentarily, so you can use those other cooldowns as "panic buttons" to try and survive a little longer until they get their brains back. This isn't a revolutionary concept.
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We fully understand. A tank that is "saving something just in case" is a bad tank because they don't know the fight and will just die anyway before they can push the button they were saving. Tanking in this game is maximizing dps while not eating the floor. If you're not sure enough about a fight that you have to save CDs you're also probably gonna be in tank stance which makes you even worse. At end game there is very rarely a chance to go "oh i'm low on the hps i better hit the not die button" as the only states of existence are dead and enough hp to not die to the next attack if you're timing your cds right".
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Belzac posted:We fully understand. A tank that is "saving something just in case" is a bad tank because they don't know the fight and will just die anyway before they can push the button they were saving. Tanking in this game is maximizing dps while not eating the floor. If you're not sure enough about a fight that you have to save CDs you're also probably gonna be in tank stance which makes you even worse. At end game there is very rarely a chance to go "oh i'm low on the hps i better hit the not die button" as the only states of existence are dead and enough hp to not die to the next attack if you're timing your cds right". There are situations which a tank does not have control over which can cause a difference in expected eHP and actual eHP, such as a healer dying or a DPS failing at a mechanic that gave everyone a vulnerability stack. Certain cooldowns are better at responding to this than others, with Living Dead being one of the worst in the absence of Benediction. Yes, if you're doing everything right, you should never need a "Panic Button", but not everyone is playing in that environment.
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The Chairman posted:Like Rostnthal says, they're along the path to the hermit's hut to the north. Joye will lead you to them. The docile other mob were along that path, but no tigers. I guess the quest area bugged out or some poo poo.
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Niton posted:There are situations which a tank does not have control over which can cause a difference in expected eHP and actual eHP, such as a healer dying or a DPS failing at a mechanic that gave everyone a vulnerability stack. Certain cooldowns are better at responding to this than others, with Living Dead being one of the worst in the absence of Benediction. Why would you save cooldowns for just in case someone fucks up when you could just... not gently caress up? Even if you do gently caress up, it's just a wipe. Get back in there and learn how to not gently caress up. In the long run, learning to use cooldowns regularly and predictably will help you a lot more than saving them for the worst case scenario.
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I'm all for recovery and think it's the sign of a great group over a good group but recovery is about working with what you have and not planning on needing to recover. It's like saving LB3 on Thordad "just in case".
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