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In theory, however, Overkill can add more spawn points while NGR really can't.
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If you guys would like more variety in your airplane heisting, please read and consider posting your support on the suggestion thread I just made on the steam forums. It's not fake difficulty, I swear! My requests, in a nutshell, in order of ease of implementation: 1. Add a lootable cash register to the diner. 2. Add ATMs. 3. Loose cash bundles spread around the map. 4. Playable jukebox- using the jukebox in Marlene's diner could cause it to play a song by Smokey Bennett & the Hoops, Miles Malone or Pat Briscoe. 5. Bagged, airdroppable loot in the plane cargo container- presumably up to four bags of gold or weapons, which players would then have to carry out of the heist. They'd have to do a lot to make this work, like make dropping bags out the cargo door work, and let you carry bags on the boat.
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# ? Dec 8, 2015 18:56 |
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Discendo Vox posted:If you guys would like more variety in your airplane heisting, please read and consider posting your support on the suggestion thread I just made on the steam forums. It's not fake difficulty, I swear! For 5 why not just have it hit the map in random spots, you find it and attach it to one of the pallets?
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# ? Dec 8, 2015 19:00 |
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6. Make one of the parachute bags contain a spare tire like in Roger Rabbit.
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# ? Dec 8, 2015 19:52 |
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Basticle posted:6. Make one of the parachute bags contain a spare tire like in Roger Rabbit. hey as a death vox idea what if the crate only has two parachutes and you need to run back to the cockpit to steal the emergency ones from there oh god the infection is inside me now
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# ? Dec 8, 2015 20:11 |
Please, post these comments in the steam forum thread so the devs are more likely to take notice(esp oh god the infection is inside me now).
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# ? Dec 8, 2015 20:36 |
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Chance of getting a working parachute is a rng based on kill count. Or buy a working parachute on the storefront.
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# ? Dec 8, 2015 20:38 |
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Working parachute code included FREE with your ticket to see Point Break, in theaters December 25th.
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# ? Dec 8, 2015 20:43 |
Your parachute pack should unfurl to contain a (Point Break) safe, like in Who Framed Roger Rabbit.
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# ? Dec 8, 2015 20:44 |
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Any shot that misses or goes through an enemy has a chance to hit a critical piece of machinery and cause the plane to crash, starting a 30 second point of no return.
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# ? Dec 8, 2015 20:48 |
The entire second act of the heist, Locke's helicopter will be vulnerable and targeted by enemies. If it's shot down, the heist becomes unwinnable. Don't forget the two swat turrets! Same deal with act 3 of Beneath the Mountain- one long escort quest for Locke and his chopper.
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# ? Dec 8, 2015 20:51 |
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Basticle posted:Chance of getting a working parachute is a rng based on kill count. Or buy a working parachute on the storefront. And it's biased so that the lower your kills, the more likely the parachute works. All enemies are tasers.
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# ? Dec 8, 2015 20:58 |
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There is no way they'll ever let choppers take damage as then they'd have to let rockets take out police spawning planes that will remove them being able to get into the heist for a whole minute. Make your stupid difficulties more realistic Vox. Unless your Fat pipe is telling us that the next special is a air turret AKA a modified Hind D.
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# ? Dec 8, 2015 20:58 |
Crabtree posted:There is no way they'll ever let choppers take damage as then they'd have to let rockets take out police spawning planes that will remove them being able to get into the heist for a whole minute. Make your stupid difficulties more realistic Vox. A Hind D?!? edit:... My fat pipe tells me that you'll escape with the panic room on the panic room remake, and will secure the meth you cook inside the panic room. The aftershock and Birth of Sky heists were used to build out materials related to that part of the heist. (this is just a guess) Discendo Vox fucked around with this message at 21:39 on Dec 8, 2015 |
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# ? Dec 8, 2015 21:11 |
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Yeah, its the perfect way to illustrate how we are terrorists now by having a gif of Sykic trickshotting a murky Mil Mi-24D like the Syrian insurgent he is. And you better tell OVERKILL that the masks with that update should be a dark blue bandanna and a fully headwrapped American Flag Keffiyeh out of Freedom Fighters.
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# ? Dec 8, 2015 21:24 |
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Crabtree posted:Yeah, its the perfect way to illustrate how we are terrorists now by having a gif of Sykic trickshotting a murky Mil Mi-24D like the Syrian insurgent he is. And you better tell OVERKILL that the masks with that update should be a dark blue bandanna and a fully headwrapped American Flag Keffiyeh out of Freedom Fighters. Objection - more of the crew are foreign nationals than Americans now. There needs to be a variety of flags.
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# ? Dec 8, 2015 21:26 |
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Tempest_56 posted:Objection - more of the crew are foreign nationals than Americans now. There needs to be a variety of flags. Fuckin' illegals takin' are jobs!!!!!
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# ? Dec 8, 2015 21:31 |
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Goredema posted:Jumping back to the topic of Fugimind builds... If I'm going to take Grinder anyway, could it be viable to just skip Dodge entirely? Here's a build I slapped together that skips the 10% dodge from Sneaky Bastard, and instead aces Low Blow. A Light Ballistic Vest + Thick Skin aced = 50 armor, 15 of which regens every 2 seconds due to Bullseye. In addition, having Low Blow aced means that the cut-off for detection risk is 25, which means there are a ton of weapons you can bring along if you feel like some variety, including some high-damage stuff that can't quite squeeze in to the normal Low Blow / Sneaky Bastard build. Wow, no comments on my weird, potentially lovely Fugimind idea that skips dodge entirely? I thought you guys would flip out! On a side note, the second mission of Saints Row 3 did skydiving better than Overkill, because they don't give a poo poo about realism and concentrate on making things fun. Seriously, how can you not love this cut scene?
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# ? Dec 8, 2015 21:51 |
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Goredema posted:Wow, no comments on my weird, potentially lovely Fugimind idea that skips dodge entirely? I thought you guys would flip out! Why? There's nothing really wrong with it. I mean, I'd distribute things a little differently (trade Pumping Iron for Shinobi, ace Leadership for ace Equilibrum, etc), but there's nothing too weird with it and Grinder forgives a lot of sins. I personally prefer something higher capacity for the primary with Grinder but it's a perfectly reasonable build. vv e: Teach me to pay closer attention, I totally missed the lack of deployables. Yeah, that's not a good move. Tempest_56 fucked around with this message at 22:24 on Dec 8, 2015 |
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the idea of doing a grinder deck without doing dodge is entirely so you don't have to worry about fugitive skills or concealment, all you need is thick skin aced and you're golden by ignoring that you are missing out on a lot of what makes the upper tiers of fugi worthwhile aced low blow is bad, dont do it ace a deployable, dont ace gunslinger, you do not need it get shinobi and cat burglar basic you now have a bunch of points to throw around (that i suggest you spend in enforcer) , enjoy http://pd2skills.com/#/v3/mSoLhIJfGbDa:eIEfDa:tda:ghjECda:fqsoKJefGbCDa:iba:pr8N8::w58-11-14-20-18-23:s9-20-13-3-1-21-2:a3 Tempest_56 posted:Why? There's nothing really wrong with it. I mean, I'd distribute things a little differently (trade Pumping Iron for Shinobi, ace Leadership for ace Equilibrum, etc), but there's nothing too weird with it and Grinder forgives a lot of sins. I personally prefer something higher capacity for the primary with Grinder but it's a perfectly reasonable build. it has no deployables and still is constrained by concealment (in concept anyway), it bad
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# ? Dec 8, 2015 22:10 |
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So I picked up the game a couple days ago and I'm having a blast playing. Only problem I've run into is occasional hitbox quirks and some of the random pubbie matches being filled with morons. I'd like to play with some Goons to learn a bit more and unlock some good stuff. I have been rolling with the M308 pretty much stock and had some good results with it, but I know there's better out there. Steam name is the same as on here.
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# ? Dec 8, 2015 22:17 |
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Furious Mittens posted:So I picked up the game a couple days ago and I'm having a blast playing. Only problem I've run into is occasional hitbox quirks and some of the random pubbie matches being filled with morons. The M308 is actually a drat good gun currently. Accurate, high damage, reasonable ammo reserve. (Hitbox weirdness may be related to desync or the fact that cops don't have legs.) Get Goonmod and you'll be set for the mods so you won't have to run anything stock ever again.
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# ? Dec 8, 2015 22:23 |
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Furious Mittens posted:So I picked up the game a couple days ago and I'm having a blast playing. Only problem I've run into is occasional hitbox quirks and some of the random pubbie matches being filled with morons. Just FYI in case you haven't figured this out already - there's no hit detection on arms and legs for whatever reason. You're stuck shooting cops in the face/body. There's a mod out there that adds hitboxes to limbs, but it's pretty easy to shoot people in the face in this game, so meh.
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Furious Mittens posted:So I picked up the game a couple days ago and I'm having a blast playing. Only problem I've run into is occasional hitbox quirks and some of the random pubbie matches being filled with morons. Join the payday 2 goons group on steam and join the camping the stairs mumble, available through the private game servers subforum. We'd love to have you with us. Don't be intimidated by the sperginess of folks here, the reality is the game's more accessible now than it probably has been at any time since launch.
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# ? Dec 8, 2015 22:37 |
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Lynx posted:Just FYI in case you haven't figured this out already - there's no hit detection on arms and legs for whatever reason. You're stuck shooting cops in the face/body. Yeah, I noticed the hitbox deal with arms and legs after a few matches. I was trying to hold off an assault when my pubbie team had wiped due to stupidity. Had an angle on some cops legs around a doorway and kept unloading on them and nothing. Went through the whole "Maybe it's my computer! Or lag!" but realized that it wasn't me. That's pretty much the only time I've ever aimed for anything other than the head/neck. And yes, I love the M308. I've found it to be so good at one-shotting everything except for the toughest enemies and even then it dishes out a good amount of damage. I've kind of gotten into a rhythm with it, at least early on.
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# ? Dec 8, 2015 22:41 |
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Furious Mittens posted:That's pretty much the only time I've ever aimed for anything other than the head/neck. Congratulations, you've learned how to git gud at Payday 2.
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# ? Dec 8, 2015 22:44 |
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Goredema posted:Wow, no comments on my weird, potentially lovely Fugimind idea that skips dodge entirely? I thought you guys would flip out! Why do you have Ace Spotter? Why do you have Ace Duck and Cover when you can't possibly dodge? Why do you have no upgraded deployables? Ace Gunslinger got obsoleted by the rebalance and the re-rebalance didn't change that. I don't think the damage from the Flash Hider is worth losing accuracy over. Furious Mittens posted:Steam name is the same as on here.
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# ? Dec 8, 2015 22:57 |
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maswastaken posted:If you insist: Yeah that's me.
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# ? Dec 8, 2015 23:00 |
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I haven't noticed issues clicking cops in the limbs. is it Goonmod that fixed that or something else?
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# ? Dec 8, 2015 23:08 |
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maswastaken posted:If you insist: 1. Ace Spotter is in case I drop into a pub game that's stealthing. At least I'll have something to do other than leave immediately. But yeah, it could be sacrificed. 2. Duck and Cover was an oversight last night. I've messed around with the build this morning and ended up with a revised build that removes Duck and Cover. 3. From my (limited) experience so far, I've found that my main contribution to teams has been to run around rescuing team mates about to die by sprinting over to them and applying liberal DPS. I've also noticed that for some reason, people on pub servers have a severe bias against using first aid kits if there's a doctor's bag anywhere on the map. I figured that Inspire aced would make up for a lack of an upgraded deployable. 4. Wait, what's that about Gunslinger not being worth acing? That would save me a ton of points! I could do something like this with Mastermind instead, and have a sidekick to help out.
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# ? Dec 8, 2015 23:18 |
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deployables are always useful and it helps you get up the mastermind tree with minimal chaff skills, please get deployables
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# ? Dec 8, 2015 23:22 |
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Goredema posted:1. Ace Spotter is in case I drop into a pub game that's stealthing. At least I'll have something to do other than leave immediately. But yeah, it could be sacrificed. You have multiple skill builds now, AND most spergy pubbie hosts will indicate that their lobbies are quiet (or loud) there isn't a real reason to ace spotter on a loud build anymore. You don't need aced gunslinger anymore because all of the good loud pistols hit the requisite damage breakpoints without it. I think there is a an argument for the dealer with gunslinger on DW to one shot tans in the head. Although I think that due to the rebalance th at doesn't work anymore.
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# ? Dec 8, 2015 23:51 |
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Are people still fartforcing? What's the preferred use of points above and beyond farting and fatsuit? I don't think there's enough for inspire. Also for new page Tulip posted:Coming back to this after a while, is there a mod to change the iron sights zoom back to the pre crimefest way and is HUDList completely hosed or do I need to keep fiddling with it?
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# ? Dec 8, 2015 23:56 |
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Tempest_56 posted:You've missed five DLCs. John Murdoch posted:In part thanks to the big rebalance, all of the recent DLC boils down to good-but-not-essential. Thank you for your replies. Looks like I can afford to wait for the Christmas sale without any problems. I'll go figure out a build and see if I can find some goons to play with.
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# ? Dec 9, 2015 00:10 |
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Tempest_56 posted:Objection - more of the crew are foreign nationals than Americans now. There needs to be a variety of flags. Jacket just has a N/A next to his nationality on forms. Somehow this works.
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# ? Dec 9, 2015 00:10 |
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Tulip posted:Are people still fartforcing? What's the preferred use of points above and beyond farting and fatsuit? I don't think there's enough for inspire. I have a grinder inspire/suppressor build which is superior in my opinion because you get Inspire+farts (medbag deployable), but if you want ICTV, Inspire, and silencer skills you should look into Pirate Perfection With the LMGs being incredibly good these days it's both fun and effective. Take a Buzzsaw.
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# ? Dec 9, 2015 00:20 |
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Lynx posted:Just FYI in case you haven't figured this out already - there's no hit detection on arms and legs for whatever reason. You're stuck shooting cops in the face/body. Wait what? Really? Don't tell me i've been playing this game for years and never noticed this.
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# ? Dec 9, 2015 00:33 |
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Reminder that bipods bump LMG accuracy to 75 with zero recoil and factor silencer bonuses on top of that, so enjoy your laser beam
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# ? Dec 9, 2015 00:34 |
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dogstile posted:Wait what? Really? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGhpPWfZuBE
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# ? Dec 9, 2015 00:36 |
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Psion posted:I have a grinder inspire/suppressor build which is superior in my opinion because you get Inspire+farts (medbag deployable), but if you want ICTV, Inspire, and silencer skills you should look into Pirate Perfection Didn't say I wanted all of them. My typical grindr uses feedback so not that much of a change to grab silencer skills instead. What's the selling point on the buzzsaw?
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# ? Dec 9, 2015 00:37 |