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BoostCreep posted:My friend swapped an LS3 into his FD RX7 a few years ago and still has the 13B and transmission sitting in storage. A few months ago the engine in his 2006 M3 ate itself, so now he has a 65k mile e46 M3 with a bad engine and a good twin turbo rotary sitting on a palate in a garage. Get him really drunk and convince him to do it
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kastein posted:Anyone who cares enough about sports to maybe commit suicide over the results of a single game is... wow. What kind of hosed up people do you live with? Low blow what up.
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# ? Dec 8, 2015 19:49 |
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Cage posted:The kind that would pay money to live with SAG. Shots fired which is what hes worried about
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# ? Dec 8, 2015 20:05 |
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Lol. I live with 3 of my closest friends since middle school. I hope he just caught the flu I had last week and his crazy ex didn't stab him to death.
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# ? Dec 8, 2015 20:21 |
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CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:I'm pretty confident I could build a 250Kw rotary that would scare the living poo poo out of any 300-350Kw V8 swap in a straight line. And would without doubt smack the living poo poo out of the V8 swap around a track The issue here in the US is that 1) folks don't take care of their cars, and rotaries don't hold up to neglect all that well, while LSx V8s pretty much do. and 2) I can buy a complete 5.3 out of a truck (with plenty of life left) for less than the rebuild kit for a 13B. I love a good rotary, but it's difficult to argue against the cost-effectiveness of a modern V8. I mean, a 5.3 is 300 HP out of the box, and cam and heads will get you 400. I wouldn't replace a perfectly-good 13B or 13BT, but a busted one? Sorely tempted. Disclosure: I own 7 RX-7s across the first two generations. One runs.
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Darchangel posted:The issue here in the US is that 1) folks don't take care of their cars, and rotaries don't hold up to neglect all that well, while LSx V8s pretty much do. and 2) I can buy a complete 5.3 out of a truck (with plenty of life left) for less than the rebuild kit for a 13B. I love a good rotary, but it's difficult to argue against the cost-effectiveness of a modern V8. I mean, a 5.3 is 300 HP out of the box, and cam and heads will get you 400. I wouldn't replace a perfectly-good 13B or 13BT, but a busted one? Sorely tempted. I smell heresy.
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# ? Dec 8, 2015 20:37 |
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CommieGIR posted:I smell heresy. Smells like cost-aware power to me. And that smells delicious.
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# ? Dec 8, 2015 20:47 |
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meatpimp posted:Smells like cost-aware power to me. And that smells delicious. Then why buy an RX-7 to begin with. And it was a joke. That was too.
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# ? Dec 8, 2015 20:49 |
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We're a loving huge national financial company and nobody other than myself in this department understands loving basic algebra.
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# ? Dec 8, 2015 22:12 |
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CommieGIR posted:Then why buy an RX-7 to begin with. I know it was a joke, this is a comedy forum.
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Darchangel posted:The issue here in the US is that 1) folks don't take care of their cars, and rotaries don't hold up to neglect all that well, while LSx V8s pretty much do. and 2) I can buy a complete 5.3 out of a truck (with plenty of life left) for less than the rebuild kit for a 13B. I love a good rotary, but it's difficult to argue against the cost-effectiveness of a modern V8. I mean, a 5.3 is 300 HP out of the box, and cam and heads will get you 400. I wouldn't replace a perfectly-good 13B or 13BT, but a busted one? Sorely tempted. That whole cost effectiveness thing is bunk when you see just how cheap a rotary can be - lets for the moment go with my RX-7 - I know quite well it wont work with a L98 motor in anything other than a straight line squirt and even then there is a loooooong list of chassis work I would have to do to make it work for any length of time and to have traction. The diff WILL break, the gear box will be smashed, the rear chassis will tear. I do none of that for a good 13B. A T56 is not a drop in gearbox replacement and needs a lot more work than even a Supra steel case to fit. Ford 9" or 8.8" diffs are heavy and add considerably to unsprung weight, which is a killer on a Gen 1 and aren't a drop in either. How much plating and welding you handy with? You will have to reinforce the rear floorpan, the front towers greatly. You are losing on your time here or paying someone else to do it. So basically so far you have added a lot of weight in the wrong places for what? An ill mannered car (I do know the suspension problems a V8 causes )that only gets you smoke from the tyres? So for your time and money (remember, your time is NOT free / you pay someone else to do it) I'm already been using a well built car for some time and also been picking out the second set of upgrades to brakes and suspension with the cost you spent. I've spent a whooooole load less time and I would challenge that a V8 swapper would spend less money to get it even with US pricing rolling, especially without the diff and gearbox being in race to see who can deposit their contents onto the road first or wether the front or rear sheet metal tears first. Basically, V8 swappers never account for the other huge changes they have to do and the time they sink to get the cars running (if they do at all). And they also never make up for the huge chassis engineering they have to do to even get their cars close to what made RX-7's desirable in the first place and they always get embarrassed when some smart arse that does know rotarys and the chassis smacks them silly around a track with a load less power. And I gotta say, it's hilarious when a V8 powered example has only just caught you at the end of a straight, then has to brake in desperation to haul all that weight back down to a speed capable to go around the next corner, then I'm laughing my rear end off as I dive down the inside and late brake the gently caress out of them, then disappear as the other car is struggling to get any meaningful power down. It wont happen again because their brakes wont last more than two laps, mine last the entire session as do my tyres. I know I'm a broken record on this, but really, there are better cars to start with if you want a tyre frying V8 that will work without anywhere near the effort. I wouldnt drop a rotary into a Corvette and expect results (...well... I would just to troll like gently caress). I will acknowledge that for all the disgust I have for V8 swappers into RX7's, the RX8 absolutly should never have had a NA 13B, it's just too bloody heavy.
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# ? Dec 8, 2015 23:11 |
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I forget, what do you drive right now CAT INTERCEPTOR? Also I still want to buy a brand new Viper, a brand new Hellcat, and put them next to my $500 MJ. Then put the Viper motor in the MJ, the Hellcat motor in the Viper, and the clapped out old RENIX 4.0L in the Hellcat. Just to watch enthusiasts from literally every circle except the MJ owners cry over it. Sadly I'm like most MJ owners, mine are dead in the yard and I'm broke.
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# ? Dec 8, 2015 23:17 |
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I was actually looking at an 84 RX7 S2 earlier. They're so pretty
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# ? Dec 8, 2015 23:25 |
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I had an 84 Rx7 and it was the best car. So many good times in it. My Scirocco is a close second though.
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# ? Dec 8, 2015 23:27 |
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If you move those goalposts any further or faster you'll have lapped the LS-powered posts.
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# ? Dec 9, 2015 00:02 |
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I'm at a crossroads with my cars, which seems to be a very common place for me to be. I currently have 5 cars, 3 of which run, and 2 of which have current tags and insurance. I live in Los Angeles, so space is at a premium. I probably shouldn't have bought the 5th car last week, but it was super cheap and I want a race car, so screw it. The cars that I can't drive but can't get rid of: 74 Bricklin 91 Talon (runs, just no tags or insurance) 93 SC400 Current daily drivers: 14 Fiesta ST 99 Grand Cherokee Having said that, I'm thinking of selling my Grand Cherokee and trading in my Fiesta on a new daily driver that can tow and get good gas mileage to slim down the stable a bit. I'm also moving in with my girlfriend and will be spending a lot more time together, and the two of us plus our two dogs just don't fit in the Fiesta very well. It's shockingly hard to find an SUV these days that costs less than 50 grand and can tow over 6,000lbs, with pretty much the only option being a diesel Grand Cherokee. I have some reservations with that purchase since Jeep's been having a slew of problems with transmissions in the new Cherokee, but that car shares nothing with the new Grand Cherokee, and since they are selling over 200,000 of them worldwide this year, I'm hoping not to run into any reliability issues. Plus my 2013 Grand Cherokee was awesome for the year and a half I owned it, but the V8 averaged 11.5mpg during that time which just doesn't work for me. I do however want the Quadra-Drive II and off-road package so I can at least get a little dirty in the absence of my WJ. If I can get $5k minimum for my WJ, which looking at local prices I should be able to, and around $17k on my Fiesta trade to pay it off, I might be able to make it happen. I'm probably going to wait until the last week of this month to see what kind of deal I can get. Honestly the hardest part of this whole situation is that I will REALLY miss my Fiesta. It's such a badass little car and I've never grown so strangely attached to a car I've only had for two years. It's easily one of my favorite cars I've owned (out of 24). I've also put a considerable amount of work and money into the WJ, but I've only used it for proper off-roading once since I've owned it and right now I could use the tow capabilities more than the off-road abilities.
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AI: I have three cars that don't run, so I'm getting rid of the two that do.
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Super Aggro Crag posted:Anyways my roommate didn't go to work again today and isn't answering my texts. I am gonna bang on his door until he answers when I get home. Starting to worry me... Is this still because of a football game? Sounds like a real winner.
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# ? Dec 9, 2015 00:20 |
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Nope. Turns out he caught the flu from me. Thank God he is alive.
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# ? Dec 9, 2015 00:23 |
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Seat Safety Switch posted:AI: I have three cars that don't run, so I'm getting rid of the two that do. God, I didn't think of it like that. gently caress I have a problem.
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Seat Safety Switch posted:AI: I have three cars that don't run, so I'm getting rid of the two that do. truth.txt BoostCreep, don't you have the 4.7 non-HO? Why not tow with the WJ? Gas mileage sucks but $30,000 buys a lot of gas.
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# ? Dec 9, 2015 00:27 |
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BoostCreep posted:God, I didn't think of it like that. gently caress I have a problem. What we have here in this forum is what armchair psychologists call "codependency," but I call some really great project threads.
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# ? Dec 9, 2015 00:27 |
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BoostCreep posted:God, I didn't think of it like that. gently caress I have a problem.
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# ? Dec 9, 2015 00:27 |
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IOwnCalculus posted:truth.txt Yeah, WJs are great tow rigs.
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# ? Dec 9, 2015 00:30 |
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Noe that RADL has assembled, anyone know a decent rotary shop near Berkeley, CA? My brother is moving there and it would probably be a good thing for him to know.
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nm posted:Noe that RADL has assembled, anyone know a decent rotary shop near Berkeley, CA? My brother is moving there and it would probably be a good thing for him to know.
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Seat Safety Switch posted:AI: I have three cars that don't run, so I'm getting rid of the two that do. To be fair the jeep could easily switch to "doesn't run" at any given moment
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# ? Dec 9, 2015 01:13 |
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CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:That whole cost effectiveness thing is bunk when you see just how cheap a rotary can be - lets for the moment go with my RX-7 - I know quite well it wont work with a L98 motor in anything other than a straight line squirt and even then there is a loooooong list of chassis work I would have to do to make it work for any length of time and to have traction. The diff WILL break, the gear box will be smashed, the rear chassis will tear. I do none of that for a good 13B. quote:I know I'm a broken record on this, but really, there are better cars to start with if you want a tyre frying V8 that will work without anywhere near the effort. I wouldnt drop a rotary into a Corvette and expect results (...well... I would just to troll like gently caress).
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InitialDave posted:Can you tell us the route he's taking, so we can recommend several decent rotary shops along the way as well? I can't tell if this is a burn or a serious recommendation.
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IOwnCalculus posted:truth.txt I actually towed the new project car about 40 miles last week and it did well. Up hill I was limited to around 30mph on the highway, but otherwise it towed it just fine. I guess I just worry about the reliability of a nearly 170k engine and transmission towing a 3,000lb car plus trailer around long term. I did have to lie to U-Haul though and tell them I was towing a 240sx so it would fit within the weight restrictions. Mainly, I want to get back down to a much more manageable 4 cars since I'm losing the space where I store my Jeep and Talon next month. I guess I could just sell the Fiesta and keep the WJ to hit my completely sane number of 4 cars, but having a 16 year old Jeep as my only daily driver would make me a glutton for punishment. Some pics from last week. Somehow I didn't get any with the car on the trailer:
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# ? Dec 9, 2015 01:32 |
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ilkhan posted:Of course you dont need to do all that reinforcement work. The 13B isn't going to push 600 ft-lbs, much less the 800+ the LSx can on command. Because all that matters is max power you can generate, right? RX is probably cheaper than the Lotus or Atom. C'mon now.
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# ? Dec 9, 2015 01:38 |
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Corvette rotary swap with a Ford rear end just for that extra bit of salt in the wound.
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# ? Dec 9, 2015 01:39 |
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Every car club I have ever been involved with has had some old bastard rivet-counters in who won't accept anything non-original and bitch about any mods. I think the same sort of twat is found in every club. Anybody saying 'V8/LS swaps are bad just because' is like one of those guys. Its my car, I'll swap whatever I like into it and do whatever I want with it. My project, my choices and I don't give a poo poo if you don't like it.
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Tomarse posted:Every car club I have ever been involved with has had some old bastard rivet-counters in who won't accept anything non-original and bitch about any mods. I think the same sort of twat is found in every club. Fair enough. I can get behind that view.
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# ? Dec 9, 2015 01:46 |
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Dad's aged care update: Went to the hospital this morning and spoke to the social worker about dad and what to do about his care after he leaves hospital. Good news: There is a transitional care place for dad to go to Bad news: Dad has to agree to it Good news: The place is pretty local, not far for me to go to, close for some relatives and friends Bad news: It is a place that dad associates where his best friend died Good news: I won't be the one telling dad this See what happens I guess. At worst all I need to do is go to VCAT to get them to grant me guardianship over dad to, well, force him to go.
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# ? Dec 9, 2015 03:45 |
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Jesus Christ. Now she's watching Glee. I think she wants me to break up with her.
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You Am I posted:Dad's aged care update: Is there a different centre that serves the same purpose he could go to? Might make life easier if there are two options.
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InitialDave posted:Can you tell us the route he's taking, so we can recommend several decent rotary shops along the way as well? He's only moving 80 miles and has 200mi tow AAA, so we're good on that front.
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I don't want to feed the ls1 swap fire more but I found this video really interesting: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFDBZpg627o
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I think I have a problem. I'm seriously trying to justify 20k on a god drat motorcycle. I could literally buy a used car AND bike AND get the GTI done for less than that. But oh god so sexy. Edit: also LSx everything.
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