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Fathis Munk posted:Also love how he says that one thing the Nazis got right is medical advances through human experimentation. Yeah sure. Isn't this actually true though? I mean not the morality of human experimentation but that we learned a ridiculous amount from them?
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RatHat posted:Isn't this actually true though? I mean not the morality of human experimentation but that we learned a ridiculous amount from them? It is amazing what you can learn when you take apart living humans. I mean yeah, we learned a lot from the Nazi experiments, but in no way is what they did a good thing. We could've figured that stuff out without dissecting minorities.
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They did generate some new knowledge, but oh boy was it the wrong way to do it. Using minorities as guinea pigs is not "having the right idea"
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Gaunab posted:It's not nazi fetishism guys, it's history. The word is "wehraboos" edit: Fathis Munk posted:They did generate some new knowledge, but oh boy was it the wrong way to do it. Nah, the science behind it has been pretty universally panned. It was lousy, sloppy science even for the time.
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RatHat posted:Isn't this actually true though? I mean not the morality of human experimentation but that we learned a ridiculous amount from them? Most of what we know about treating frostbite comes from nazi experiment. They'd freeze people and experiment on ways to heal them. They observed the stages of frostbite, and so on. It was not so good thing but what they learned ironically help many people in our modern society.
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canyoneer posted:The word is "wehraboos" I can't believe it took until like 2013 for that term to become a thing.
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Shayu posted:Most of what we know about treating frostbite comes from nazi experiment. They'd freeze people and experiment on ways to heal them. They observed the stages of frostbite, and so on. It was not so good thing but what they learned ironically help many people in our modern society. No, their experiments were really lovely and taught us basically nothing. Here's a good summary (on reddit, lol): https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/2u3axx/did_human_experimentation_conducted_by_the_nazis/co4su39
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CommunistPancake posted:No, their experiments were really lovely and taught us basically nothing. Thanks for that, I wasn't sure anymore if this applied to both the German and Japanese "research programmes" or not so I didn't asy anything at the time.
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I always thought this one was funny    
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many johnnys posted:I always thought this one was funny You thought correctly. I laughed.
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Aesop Poprock posted:You thought wrong
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Aesop Poprock posted:You thought wrong
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Aesop Poprock posted:Thong wrought you
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Monicro posted:I dunno it was just such a sudden twist from what started out as the usual imgur fare of "guys guys look how awesome my definitely real girlfriend is" that it made me laugh. Im not a good person I think the fact that she broke with him via mustard-sad-face is pretty great.
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"I'm such a sweet, wonderful person gently caress YOU WOMEN now give me internet points"
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Actually it's better with the caption under the image "And just to to be clear, baking is one one of my favorite things to do. So you feminazi's can keep your gender stereotypical comments to yourselves." - definitely an actual woman.
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CommunistPancake posted:No, their experiments were really lovely and taught us basically nothing. I'm a frostbite scientist I think I understand what I'm talking about.
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CommunistPancake posted:No, their experiments were really lovely and taught us basically nothing. That's a great read. Thank you. I'll be sure to bring that one up the next time I hear someone hail the scientific supremacy of the Third Reich (happens more often than I'd like).
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I came here to post this.  Welp, have this instead. http://imgur.com/gallery/JhTZYjl
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Cosima posted:Actually it's better with the caption under the image Outside of Tiggered Lady, I don't think any woman on earth would be upset by a woman saying "I enjoy baking/cooking". Its always so telling how effective the demonetization of feminism has been because all reactions to it are based off a non-existent Strawwoman of what was a feminist is.
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twistedmentat posted:Outside of Tiggered Lady, I don't think any woman on earth would be upset by a woman saying "I enjoy baking/cooking". Its always so telling how effective the demonetization of feminism has been because all reactions to it are based off a non-existent Strawwoman of what was a feminist is. This Actual Woman recieved baking supplies, not because it's relevant to her interests, but so that she can bake for him, when he's gaming. So generous.
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Yeah, that sounds like a bad deal not because it's anti-feminist somehow, but because she spent what seems to be ~$500 getting him hobby stuff, and she got an unspecified amount of 'baking stuff' that she says will be used to bake him things anyway. I mean if that's her hobby, it's a fine gift, and she doesn't specify what kind of baking stuff (maybe it's a super nice Kitchenaid mixer and fancy tools and whatnot instead of, like, three pans and a spatula), but summed up in meme form it seems like she got taken advantage of. Which is why summing stuff up in meme form is a bad idea. Also the whole "so I can stay in the kitchen and bake him treats tee hee take that feminists" is just grating.
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Shayu posted:I'm a frostbite scientist I think I understand what I'm talking about. I don't think that's a real job.
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Klaus88 posted:I came here to post this. I also had that baking one bookmarked for later. My partner doesn't play games and neither do I, but I'm very glad these people have different hobbies, take that feminazis. If this is a woman, I'm just really sad that she thinks that her dude is turned on by her hating feminists and she feels that she needs to tell other people that because he must be really insecure.
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Adding my voice to the chorus of there's nothing wrong with liking video games, or cooking. But the bad thing is proclaiming "I'm a girl who likes baking, and I am going out with a man who likes video games. See, I am one of the good ones, not like thoise nasty feminists with their liking of ungirly things, and dating men who like unmasculine things."
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AstroWhale posted:Stop debating, post funny stuff. This is the least racist iteration of this image I have seen.
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Fashionable Jorts posted:It is amazing what you can learn when you take apart living humans. We learned dick from the nazis except how to make rockets. we straight out hired all of unit 731 we could to teach us what they learned during their war crimes. Mengela and other stupid poo poo nazi scientists were bad even for their time.
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snergle posted:We learned dick from the nazis except how to make rockets. we straight out hired all of unit 731 we could to teach us what they learned during their war crimes. Mengela and other stupid poo poo nazi scientists were bad even for their time. The Nazis' rockets were just upscaled versions of Goddard's designs, they didn't teach anyone poo poo. 
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Malleum posted:The Nazis' rockets were just upscaled versions of Goddard's designs, they didn't teach anyone poo poo. Didn't they have jets but no fuel? I meant rocket engines but I am wrong either way.
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snergle posted:Didn't they have jets but no fuel? I meant rocket engines but I am wrong either way. Apart from that Germany had access to high concentrations of hydrogen peroxide, American and German rocket science were pretty much in parallel for most of the war. There were some chemical shortages towards the end of the war as well (I think they got low on hydrazine?) that briefly stunted German rocket development. But no, the reason American rocket science was accelerated after recruiting German scientists was because America had significantly increased the number of rocket specialists in its scientific community, not because those specialists had any secret knowledge. I say this at the risk of being proven wrong because my source is I vaguely remember reading a book about this.
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Also the Luftwaffe was legitimately ahead of American plane development at the time. There are few actual great technologies that the Nazis were responsible for but their advances in jet based aviation is certainly one of them. We would have gotten there eventually because we were working with a lot of the same information but the Nazis did a lot of stuff as hail mary strategies when they were desperately looking for anything that could turn the tide of the war in 43-45. This included doing a lot of aviation tests that were considered too risky by Allied test pilots and the development of rocket powered fighter planes that actually approached (but probably didn't break, despite certain conflicting statements) the sound barrier. Another good example would be the assault rifle, Russian and American engineers were certainly on the cusp of developing select fire centerfire rifles that could fulfill multiple battlefield roles, but it wasn't really until we fought against the STG44/Gustloff/etc that we realized just how powerful and flexible the concept would prove. So I'd say it was less that they were specifically ahead of us in any area and more that the pet project friendly nature of the Nazi party meant that they put a lot of experimental poo poo into production and got to test it for us.
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Gooseish posted:Apart from that Germany had access to high concentrations of hydrogen peroxide, American and German rocket science were pretty much in parallel for most of the war. There were some chemical shortages towards the end of the war as well (I think they got low on hydrazine?) that briefly stunted German rocket development. But no, the reason American rocket science was accelerated after recruiting German scientists was because America had significantly increased the number of rocket specialists in its scientific community, not because those specialists had any secret knowledge. GWBBQ has a new favorite as of 05:52 on Dec 9, 2015 |
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El Estrago Bonito posted:Another good example would be the assault rifle, Russian and American engineers were certainly on the cusp of developing select fire centerfire rifles that could fulfill multiple battlefield roles, but it wasn't really until we fought against the STG44/Gustloff/etc that we realized just how powerful and flexible the concept would prove. So I'd say it was less that they were specifically ahead of us in any area and more that the pet project friendly nature of the Nazi party meant that they put a lot of experimental poo poo into production and got to test it for us. The Russians had an assault rifle in 1915 and the US issued the Winchester Model 1907 select-fire rifle in WW1. Armies not fielding assault rifles earlier was a matter of practicality and cost, the knowledge had been around forever by the time the Nazis got around to making the STG. They didn't make anyone realize poo poo.
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El Estrago Bonito posted:Also the Luftwaffe was legitimately ahead of American plane development at the time. There are few actual great technologies that the Nazis were responsible for but their advances in jet based aviation is certainly one of them. We would have gotten there eventually because we were working with a lot of the same information but the Nazis did a lot of stuff as hail mary strategies when they were desperately looking for anything that could turn the tide of the war in 43-45. This included doing a lot of aviation tests that were considered too risky by Allied test pilots and the development of rocket powered fighter planes that actually approached (but probably didn't break, despite certain conflicting statements) the sound barrier. Another good example would be the assault rifle, Russian and American engineers were certainly on the cusp of developing select fire centerfire rifles that could fulfill multiple battlefield roles, but it wasn't really until we fought against the STG44/Gustloff/etc that we realized just how powerful and flexible the concept would prove. So I'd say it was less that they were specifically ahead of us in any area and more that the pet project friendly nature of the Nazi party meant that they put a lot of experimental poo poo into production and got to test it for us. the reason the americans and the soviet didn't start wasting comical amounts of resources to mass produce barely working jets and assault rifles was due to the fact that in a WW2 scenario you need good, pratical poo poo, not finicky princess gear that's tremendously expensive and has a very high chance of not working as soon as it's off the assembly line. the soviets and the british were tooling around with jet fighters in 1941, they put it to the sidelines because it wouldn't be a pratical thing at the time anyway http://imgur.com/gallery/3dldHyV quote:Right or wrong she chose to buy illegal product,and when she was caught she chose to go undercover. Post legit talked about both her choices quote:Wiki says she had 5 ounces. That's.. Quite a lot.. No amount of weed is worthy of a prison sentence but its not like she just had a joint. quote:"Forced"? She always had the option of facing the charges she was actually guilty of. quote:She changed the meeting location with the drug dealers and didn't tell the police she was working with as well. Not to justify what happened quote:she was on probation, had almost a half pound of weed plus ecstasy in her apartment, she agreed to cooperate, she made her own decisions quote:Fact is she broke the law (even if you think it's a bad law). She then took a risk to try and get out of prison time. Tragic not unjust. quote:The police done force you to be cone an informant. There is a choice. Also, she would not be facing 4 years in prison if she wasnt a repeat quote:Still down voting this to oblivion. No one made her become an informant. She knew the risks.
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Malleum posted:The Russians had an assault rifle in 1915 and the US issued the Winchester Model 1907 select-fire rifle in WW1. Armies not fielding assault rifles earlier was a matter of practicality and cost, the knowledge had been around forever by the time the Nazis got around to making the STG. They didn't make anyone realize poo poo. Yeah but neither of those were actual practical battle rifles that saw anywhere near widespread use nor had anything close to the influence the STG44 had. We call assault rifles assault rifles because of the STG and they were certainly the people who began to develop the techniques we associate with how modern assault rifles are used on battlefields. A better example of an earlier assault rifle would be the SVT, which the Russians made tons of but never managed to use effectively and eventually binned completely in favor of handing out more sub machine guns because they didn't really grasp the battlefield role a select fire rifle could fill. Mans posted:the reason the americans and the soviet didn't start wasting comical amounts of resources to mass produce barely working jets and assault rifles was due to the fact that in a WW2 scenario you need good, pratical poo poo, not finicky princess gear that's tremendously expensive and has a very high chance of not working as soon as it's off the assembly line. El Estrago Bonito has a new favorite as of 08:40 on Dec 9, 2015 |
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