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PRESIDENT GOKU posted:Yes you can. There is *no* indication as to what you did before being a courier. You could have been a scavenger, prospector, raider, a regular jack off, etc. Fallout 4 says YOU WERE A LAWYER or SOLDIER and that's that. yes, because you couldn't be a regular jack off before being a soldier.
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Someone made fun of it when naming her character before streaming Fallout 4. Her name was "Dr. Lawyer" because she was clearly both a doctor AND a lawyer.
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Dec 9, 2015 01:12
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Speedball posted:Someone made fun of it when naming her character before streaming Fallout 4. Her name was "Dr. Lawyer" because she was clearly both a doctor AND a lawyer. record scratching she knows an awful lot
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Dec 9, 2015 01:14
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Obsidian does some great stuff but they're not magic or infallible, especially not with the awful pressures KOTOR 2 was under. Bethesda games all have a consistent feel to them as far as TES and Fallout go and I wish they'd develop a little more as far as the plots and quests. It's been like iterations on Morrowind since, well, Morrowind.
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PRESIDENT GOKU posted:Yes you can. There is *no* indication as to what you did before being a courier. You could have been a scavenger, prospector, raider, a regular jack off, etc. Fallout 4 says YOU WERE A LAWYER or SOLDIER and that's that. There is *no* indication as to what you did before being a soldier/lawyer. You could have been a scavenger, prospector, sociopath, a regular jack off, etc.
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Azhais posted:yes, because you couldn't be a regular jack off before being a soldier. But that's not as implied in FO 4 as it is in NV. To avoid a protracted argument, I'll say it is far easier for me and a lot of people to create a unique character with NV's story than in FO 4. In FO 4 you're either a rusty lawyer who quit practicing to become a stay at home mom, or your a veteran who served 4 - 20 years doing XXX. Sure, I suppose you could say you did 14 years as a personnel clerk in the Army, got out to pursue your degree in male anatomy, then WW III, but it doesn't feel as right as in NV. New Vegas had you dug out of your own unmarked, shallow grave as a courier, already a lowly proposition in a desert wasteland. In FO 4, you're a nuclear family  Cojawfee posted:There is *no* indication as to what you did before being a soldier/lawyer. You could have been a scavenger, prospector, sociopath, a regular jack off, etc. Uhhhh, if you're a lawyer you probably didn't spend your days being a sociopath, and you weren't being a raider/prospector/scavenger before there was a wasteland to raid/prospect/scavenge. 
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Dec 9, 2015 01:16
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Again, the real issue isn't your background, it's the utter and complete lack of meaningful choices to be made.
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PRESIDENT GOKU posted:Uhhhh, if you're a lawyer you probably didn't spend your days being a sociopath, and you weren't being a raider/prospector/scavenger before there was a wasteland to raid/prospect/scavenge. You can scavenge in any time. I once gave an old tire to a scavenger in my apartment complex. This game has at least two songs about uranium prospecting (which was a real thing in the real life US). I removed raider and replaced it with sociopath. You could be anything before becoming a lawyer. What about being a sociopath precludes you from being a lawyer?
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Cojawfee posted:You can scavenge in any time. I once gave an old tire to a scavenger in my apartment complex. This game has at least two songs about uranium prospecting (which was a real thing in the real life US). I removed raider and replaced it with sociopath. You could be anything before becoming a lawyer. What about being a sociopath precludes you from being a lawyer? It's probably a benefit to the profession tbh
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Dec 9, 2015 01:28
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NecroMonster posted:Again, the real issue isn't your background, it's the utter and complete lack of meaningful choices to be made. you have the breadth of incriminating information when you arrive at the institute and your character doesn't even call out their lovely kid out on it nor can they tell a bunch of people that should know like piper and nick
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Dec 9, 2015 01:30
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it's cool having basically no options on how to approach or resolve any situation
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no way man it's totally the same, you can tell exactly how much approval your character gives to whatever shitbrained scheme anyone exposits what? you want to suggest something else that is and should be possible within the scope of the quest? 
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i tried making pete pippers but the game wont let you have asymmetrical eyes
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Backhand posted:Patently untrue! "This time, I've got something a little different for you." *gives you the exact same task he sent you to go do 20 times already but in a different location*
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you have less personality than a jrpg protagonist and get only slightly more choice in how the story unfolds players get more flexibility in their portrayal of Commander Shepard than they do of the fallout four family
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NecroMonster posted:Again, the real issue isn't your background, it's the utter and complete lack of meaningful choices to be made. Now your problem is this or that, you cannot go with both and claim they are the same.
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I just missed the ability to talk to people about things, like I went to the Institute and learned all sorts of poo poo I ran to talk to Piper and Nick my options talk were "Thoughts?" "Relationship?" I really wanted some advice or reaction out of that poo poo, like there are so few people you can even like tell that the Institute is ran by your son.
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now bholder has trouble reading the names of posters this case is worse than we thought socialsecurity posted:I just missed the ability to talk to people about things, like I went to the Institute and learned all sorts of poo poo I ran to talk to Piper and Nick my options talk were "Thoughts?" "Relationship?" I really wanted some advice or reaction out of that poo poo, like there are so few people you can even like tell that the Institute is ran by your son.  would you need to do that they sacrificed a lot of great storytelling by letting you do the simple thing of "discuss thing with npc"
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bholder either has really loving bad reading comprehension, or is purposefully ignoring other posts i have made or maybe both
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Cojawfee posted:You can scavenge in any time. I once gave an old tire to a scavenger in my apartment complex. This game has at least two songs about uranium prospecting (which was a real thing in the real life US). I removed raider and replaced it with sociopath. You could be anything before becoming a lawyer. What about being a sociopath precludes you from being a lawyer? Everything.
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Anime Schoolgirl posted:oh but why you gotta do it like this: Bholder posted:
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I would love a slightly less exaggerated version of that dreamworks face mod. Scaled back just enough to make poo poo really funny without blowing faces apart.
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Fereydun posted:no, no you're doing it wrong.
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socialsecurity posted:I just missed the ability to talk to people about things, like I went to the Institute and learned all sorts of poo poo I ran to talk to Piper and Nick my options talk were "Thoughts?" "Relationship?" I really wanted some advice or reaction out of that poo poo, like there are so few people you can even like tell that the Institute is ran by your son. Yes, I remember this part from the bestest RPG of all time New Vegas, it totally had multiple unique lines of dialog for everything that happened during the game, not just the ones that were connected to their personal quest...
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Bholder posted:Yes, I remember this part from the bestest RPG of all time New Vegas, it totally had multiple unique lines of dialog for everything that happened during the game, not just the ones that were connected to their personal quest...  are you actually literate, because your character loves to go on about a lot of quest poo poo they saw Anime Schoolgirl fucked around with this message at 01:58 on Dec 9, 2015 |
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Anime Schoolgirl posted:and it did! A single line when you progress a main quest is not "multiple lines of dialog" and it's certainly not "discussing things with npcs"
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well you see he's exaggerating, implying that it doesn't count unless "everything" is like that while also likely being unaware that new vegas did in fact have a lot of that poo poo.
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For my part, the thing with MY SON would bother me less if there wasn't the only-four-options thing. It'd feel a lot less like HAVE YOU SEEN MY SON SHAUN in every important conversation if it was one or two out of six or seven choices for important conversations instead of one or two out of four choices, even if it all ultimately lead to the same places. I hope to God that mods can add more than four lines of dialogue, anyway.
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Bholder posted:A single line when you progress a main quest is not "multiple lines of dialog" and it's certainly not "discussing things with npcs" NecroMonster posted:well you see he's exaggerating, implying that it doesn't count unless "everything" is like that
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Roadie posted:For my part, the thing with MY SON would bother me less if there wasn't the only-four-options thing. that way i can have my char shout 'loving KILL' at everyone they come across
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Anime Schoolgirl posted:they also managed to make the engine less broken (300 hour savegames are actually possible in NV with low-footprint mods) at least on PC which was a pretty interesting outcome Did they really? New Vegas crashed a ton for me, on top of all the usual bugs. I thought that was the experience for everyone given many of the complaints I hear on release were "this game is buggy as hell". It definitely didn't feel better than Fallout 3 in that regard. Still not as buggy as Fallout 2 though.
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Internet Kraken posted:Did they really? New Vegas crashed a ton for me, on top of all the usual bugs. I thought that was the experience for everyone given many of the complaints I hear on release were "this game is buggy as hell". It definitely didn't feel better than Fallout 3 in that regard. the console versions still were pretty bad though since the engine is insistent on keeping a lot of poo poo into memory even when it shouldn't (rope kid went on about this a few times when asked about the ps3 port in particular)
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King Vidiot posted:"This time, I've got something a little different for you." I was talking to a buddy earlier about assorted Fallout junk, we came to how Ulysses was gonna be a companion and all that in NV at first and how that woulda been pretty cool. I stopped for a minute and asked "You know, have we actually had any black companions in the 3D Fallouts?" before quickly going oh, well alright Preston exists I guess. Then he pointed out that there was also some BoS lady and Jericho maybe?  Also X6 but meh. But really I wish he was more of anything but good lord does he begin to just fade into the scenery at a rapid pace.
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Anime Schoolgirl posted:i'm not sure what exactly you are talking about, are you talking about the parts where you could outright lie to people so they don't feel terrible, use your reputation to auto-solve a number of quests (most of which aren't the main quest), or kill caesar and brag about it and talk some guy down into not loving over ncr soldiers I thought we are talking about companion NPCs talking about the current events, not just simply talking to people in video games. Although right now we are pretending F4's dialogue system is basically Heavy Rain's press X to Shaun and nothing else... NecroMonster posted:npcs in NV are also often aware of, and will talk about, poo poo that has gone down elsewhere in the mojave Considering many of them will always point you towards "that guy in a chequered suit", no that's not true. Unless you mean the random NPC banter in-between complaining about nuclear winter or the radio news which I'm pretty sure can be found in F4 as well.
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Also in New Vegas you could have a conversation with your companion instead of just being told how awesome you are because you picked a lock 20 times.
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Pwnstar posted:Also in New Vegas you could have a conversation with your companion instead of just being told how awesome you are because you picked a lock 20 times. You can do this in Fallout 4 as well though? Off the top of my head when Piper starts talking about how great the news and the truth is you can poo poo all over her dad's sacrifice by telling her he died for nothing. You don't have to agree with your companions about everything, at least from what conversations I've gotten so far.
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Pwnstar posted:Also in New Vegas you could have a conversation with your companion instead of just being told how awesome you are because you picked a lock 20 times. Hmm. No it's actually bad because Johnson Nash can't tell if you killed Benny.
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