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One thing I think is interesting is that we had a conversation in this thread a while back about the more human side of the Empire and how a lot of them are probably decent folks fooled by propaganda or just looking for a job or a way off their shithole planet or whatever, and Lost Stars actually seems to back that up. All the characters are Imperials still and not one of them's a bad person or are even remotely aware of the bad things the Empire does due to state control of the media. Even the guy that's all jaded with the Empire and is almost certainly going to join the rebels is just upset with minor things like the empire forcing trade deals that are only beneficial to themselves and senators being corrupt and stuff. And I'm just past the point in the book where the Tantive IV gets captured in the first movie so it's not like it's early when the Empire's still solidifying it's rule or anything. Pretty interesting that that sort of gets addressed.
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I always liked the Assault Gunboat, but I realize I'm probably the only one. And maybe I'm biased cause I could wreck poo poo in that thing in Tie Fighter. I always liked the uniqueness of the B-Wing too, even though I realize it's canon. Ugly, but interesting looking.
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Dec 9, 2015 23:06
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Why isn't the B-wing the t wing? It's a t. Come to think of it, isn't the written language in Star Wars some weird gobbleygook? How do they know to call them X-wings, they don't have Xs???
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Dec 9, 2015 23:16
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PostNouveau posted:Why isn't the B-wing the t wing? It's a t. Look at this nerd not knowing his aurebesh.
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Dec 9, 2015 23:18
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PostNouveau posted:Why isn't the B-wing the t wing? It's a t. Why do Klingons have the big forehead ridges and stuff in The Next Generation when they didn't in The Original Series???? The answer: the question is stupid and you should already know the answer.
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Dec 9, 2015 23:21
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PostNouveau posted:Why isn't the B-wing the t wing? It's a t. B-Wing is short for Blade-Wing, since it looks like a sword (thats the official reason) And the T-Wing is This
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Dec 9, 2015 23:26
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Booblord Zagats posted:B-Wing is short for Blade-Wing, since it looks like a sword (thats the official reason) thats really stupid instead of just having them be different models or something but x wings look like x so here we are
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Dec 9, 2015 23:28
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Chomp8645 posted:Why do Klingons have the big forehead ridges and stuff in The Next Generation when they didn't in The Original Series???? Genetic virus, duh
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Dec 9, 2015 23:31
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That T-wing article reminds me of something: given that this poo poo takes place in space, where there is zero gravity, drag, wind, etc. who the gently caress cares what a ship looks like?quote:As per the A-wing, weapons were light, with only dual laser cannons being fitted in order to maintain maneuverability. Why would adding more weapons affect maneuverability in space??
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Dec 9, 2015 23:55
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drunk asian neighbor posted:That T-wing article reminds me of something: given that this poo poo takes place in space, where there is zero gravity, drag, wind, etc. who the gently caress cares what a ship looks like? higher mass away from the center of mass produces a higher moment of inertia
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Dec 9, 2015 23:59
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:higher mass away from the center of mass produces a higher moment of inertia And more power needed by the generator to function , taking away from the power needed to make maneuvering thrusters work
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Dec 10, 2015 00:10
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:higher mass away from the center of mass produces a higher moment of inertia In space? Wouldn't the ship have no mass, and any inertia caused would be from the force of its engines firing? In that case you should be able to compensate for virtually any shape/size of ship with proper engine placement, no? Like AFAIK literally the only reason the space shuttles were shaped the way they were was that they could actually negotiate re-entry into the atmosphere/gravity and glide down after re-entry; aerodynamics kind of goes out the window when you remove the "aero" part of it. Also so this conversation doesn't get too  :http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Butter http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Cake http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Foodstuff/Canon http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Foodstuff/Legends e: I may be confusing mass and weight, I dunno, freshman Physics was a long-rear end time ago Snow Cone Capone fucked around with this message at 00:13 on Dec 10, 2015 |
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Dec 10, 2015 00:11
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quote:On Imperial starships, officers were encouraged to avoid consuming solid food and drink nutritive beverages instead, because it was more efficient in terms of ship resources and officer time. The Empire is run by tech startups.
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Dec 10, 2015 00:12
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I just like that there is a canon and a non-canon entry for food and they are completely different
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drunk asian neighbor posted:That T-wing article reminds me of something: given that this poo poo takes place in space, where there is zero gravity, drag, wind, etc. who the gently caress cares what a ship looks like? They also operate in-atmosphere.
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Dec 10, 2015 00:24
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PostNouveau posted:Why isn't the B-wing the t wing? It's a t. The letter X is actually force sensitive so it operates across languages. It was instrumental in stealing the original death star plans from darth vader and furthermore 
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drunk asian neighbor posted:
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Dec 10, 2015 00:54
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The Tie Crawler is the most hilarious thing to me.
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Light Gun Man posted:The Tie Crawler is the most hilarious thing to me. Expendable very lightly armed and armored single crew tank with no way to aim aside from rotating the vehicle
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Dec 10, 2015 02:11
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those shits are horrible in Empire at War when they run over your dudes though
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WeaponGradeSadness posted:One thing I think is interesting is that we had a conversation in this thread a while back about the more human side of the Empire and how a lot of them are probably decent folks fooled by propaganda or just looking for a job or a way off their shithole planet or whatever, and Lost Stars actually seems to back that up. All the characters are Imperials still and not one of them's a bad person or are even remotely aware of the bad things the Empire does due to state control of the media. Even the guy that's all jaded with the Empire and is almost certainly going to join the rebels is just upset with minor things like the empire forcing trade deals that are only beneficial to themselves and senators being corrupt and stuff. And I'm just past the point in the book where the Tantive IV gets captured in the first movie so it's not like it's early when the Empire's still solidifying it's rule or anything. Pretty interesting that that sort of gets addressed. Nice. I'm interested. Please post when you finish and what you ultimately thought of it. PostNouveau posted:Why isn't the B-wing the t wing? It's a t.
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Dec 10, 2015 02:30
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I also love that the Crawler is a punishment detail to grounded pilots
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Chill la Chill posted:Nice. I'm interested. Please post when you finish and what you ultimately thought of it. 
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Dec 10, 2015 02:42
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K-lamity Wing
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I like the E-wing because it is literally the Space F-35.
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Dec 10, 2015 06:42
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Only uglier. Speaking of, I like the concept of uglies which is criminals basically kit bashing poo poo from the junkyard together.
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Dec 10, 2015 07:00
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bunnyofdoom posted:Only uglier. http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/TYE-wing quote:The TYE-wing essentially combined the key weaknesses of both the TIE fighter and the Y-wing, yet had the strengths of neither. Many pilots dubbed them "DIE-wings", as the survival rate of TYE-Wing pilots was appallingly low.
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WeaponGradeSadness posted:They also operate in-atmosphere. Ok I'm veering dangerously close to Wookiepedia-contributor status here, but if they were taking in-atmosphere flight into account, the standard TIE fighter kind of throws that out the window - it has literally no way of staying in the air aside from engines. At least the X-wings and to a lesser extent Y and A-wings look like they'd be able to glide out if their engines failed, whereas the TIE would just drop like a stone (probably even faster, since its wings are vertically oriented). I mean bottom line I think it's silly as hell to say "they couldn't add more weapons due to engine/maneuverability design constraints" but then you get wonky designs like Slave I and Xizor's Viper or Virago or whatever and that's A-OK with everyone.
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drunk asian neighbor posted:Ok I'm veering dangerously close to Wookiepedia-contributor status here, but if they were taking in-atmosphere flight into account, the standard TIE fighter kind of throws that out the window - it has literally no way of staying in the air aside from engines. At least the X-wings and to a lesser extent Y and A-wings look like they'd be able to glide out if their engines failed, whereas the TIE would just drop like a stone (probably even faster, since its wings are vertically oriented). They address that in the X-wing books that in atmosphere you can evade ties by going left/right since they have to roll before they can turn to follow. Everything has respulsors so staying in the air isn't that big of a deal, but being able to maneuver still is.
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TK-42-1 posted:They address that in the X-wing books that in atmosphere you can evade ties by going left/right since they have to roll before they can turn to follow. Everything has respulsors so staying in the air isn't that big of a deal, but being able to maneuver still is. Sometimes I hate that I remember poo poo like this.
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TK-42-1 posted:Sometimes I hate that I remember poo poo like this. I think it's probably safe to say that trying to analyze the feasibility of various ships from Star Wars will only lead to pain and suffering for everyone. Truly it is the path to the Dark Side.
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Dec 10, 2015 17:14
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There is a reason that the fighters in the new star war battlefront fly like they are in space even though the whole game is in-atmosphere. It's because nobody wants that poo poo.
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TK-42-1 posted:Sometimes I hate that I remember poo poo like this. I was about to respond with a small explanation of repulsorlift vs maneuverability but you beat me to it, so at least theres two of us who wasted our lives learning this poo poo
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I bet if I took all the time and brain I spent learning the minutae of science fiction and poo poo, I could have a docterate and speak three languages. But no, I know the name of the jawa that shot R2D2 instead. Thanks, Young Otisburg. you really hosed me over.
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I remember that this character was supposed to play a big role in Episode 2 but the actress got caught with drugs or some poo poo and they created Sam Wessel to carry on, so everytime George Lucas says the prequels are exactly as he came up with them in 1975 I just think "What a load of poo poo"
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Dec 10, 2015 22:08
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Chill la Chill posted:Oh boy never look up the k-wing. Wow, that thing is stupid.
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Otisburg posted:I bet if I took all the time and brain I spent learning the minutae of science fiction and poo poo, I could have a docterate and speak three languages. It's probably not too late if you just stop liking Star Wars.
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Booblord Zagats posted:I remember that this character was supposed to play a big role in Episode 2 but the actress got caught with drugs or some poo poo and they created Sam Wessel to carry on, so everytime George Lucas says the prequels are exactly as he came up with them in 1975 I just think "What a load of poo poo" Zam Wessel wasn't even a shapeshifter until they were doing principal photography, she apparently was meant to be a human female until post-production added a CGI mask to her when she died.
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Young Freud posted:Zam Wessel wasn't even a shapeshifter until they were doing principal photography, she apparently was meant to be a human female until post-production added a CGI mask to her when she died. They'll cover it up with a bantha walking in front of her as she dies in the special editions.
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Young Freud posted:Zam Wessel wasn't even a shapeshifter until they were doing principal photography, she apparently was meant to be a human female until post-production added a CGI mask to her when she died. I feel really bad for everyone involved with making a film for Lucas at anypoint after 1987
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