|
Which religion is the best? This poll is closed. |
|||
|---|---|---|---|
| Shintoism |
|
59 | 9.58% |
| Buddhism |
|
77 | 12.50% |
| Taoism |
|
66 | 10.71% |
| FEAR CLOWNPIECE |
|
414 | 67.21% |
| Total: | 616 votes | ||
|
Any relation to Lynn Aloysius Belvedere?
|
#
?
Dec 9, 2015 03:35
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 11, 2024 17:18 |
|
|
It's a word I found in a dictionary because BlitzBlast had moral objections to the word "Tower".
|
|
#
?
Dec 9, 2015 03:36
|
|
|
That's the other problem I have with translating ALL setting names, too. While Scarlet Devil Mansion (and even House of Eternity) make sense, sometimes the names will just be whatever the writer thinks looks/sounds cool, and Hakugyokuro is one such case (because I can't think of any other reason why ZUN would include 楼 "tower" in the name, except for maybe its visual similarity with 桜 "cherry blossoms") EDIT: Actually, a quick google shows that Hakugyokuro is a pre-existing term referring to an actual tower in the heavens where dead writers would go. ZUN just probably used it without any consideration for that, seeing as how in Touhou, it's just a sprawling garden. leather fedora fucked around with this message at 03:49 on Dec 9, 2015 |
|
#
?
Dec 9, 2015 03:45
|
|
|
Man I remember that conversation. It ultimately boiled down to me flipping a coin to see if I'd translate the name or not, and well I guess George Washington likes his location names in English. We translated House of Eternity too to be consistent. Of course Kourindou is right there sooooo.
|
|
#
?
Dec 9, 2015 04:05
|
|
|
leather fedora posted:That's the other problem I have with translating ALL setting names, too. While Scarlet Devil Mansion (and even House of Eternity) make sense, sometimes the names will just be whatever the writer thinks looks/sounds cool, and Hakugyokuro is one such case (because I can't think of any other reason why ZUN would include 楼 "tower" in the name, except for maybe its visual similarity with 桜 "cherry blossoms")
|
|
#
?
Dec 9, 2015 04:12
|
|
|
Honestly, I don't see anything wrong with "the House of Eternity." Sounds kinda cool to me. Probably the best of the translated place names (Scarlet Devil Mansion also sounds silly to me). When they get to the Palace of Earth Spirits though, I just started calling it "the palace" after the first couple times. Edit: The Tower of White Jade is the second best, especially since it automatically has that pre-existing mythical/poetic flavor to it.
|
|
#
?
Dec 9, 2015 04:13
|
|
|
Also ZUN picked Hakugyokuro because it's related to dead poets. Like, you know, Yuyuko's namesake. Really White Jade Tower or whatever would be a perfectly fine name if ZUN had put a tower in the place. I was actually going to just throw up my hands and rename it White Jade Pagoda once we decided we were actually translating it, but Belvedere is actually the perfect word since while it has the connotations of being a high place, it primarily means a building overlooking a beautiful view. Works great for a garden!
|
|
#
?
Dec 9, 2015 04:31
|
|
|
Despite being the most Western establishment in Gensokyo the Scarlet Devil Mansion sounds the weirdest in English.
|
|
#
?
Dec 9, 2015 04:31
|
|
|
"Scarlet Devil Mansion" sounds totally fine, because the name of the game is "Embodiment of Scarlet Devil". It's the mansion that belongs to the titular Scarlet Devil.
|
|
#
?
Dec 9, 2015 04:39
|
|
|
Belvedere might be perfectly appropriate, but there's an inherent dishonesty in a writer using words they're not already familiar with. In the worst case scenario, it ends up having a totally different nuance than you imagined.
|
|
#
?
Dec 9, 2015 04:42
|
|
|
RIP White Jade Shank.
|
|
#
?
Dec 9, 2015 04:58
|
|
|
I dislike "White Jade Belvedere" because it is a mouthful and doesn't really roll of the tongue. But then again "Hakugyokuro" has a similar problem so the translation doesn't come off as all that worse.
|
|
#
?
Dec 9, 2015 05:11
|
|
|
My objection to "White Jade Belvedere" is that aside from sounding awkward, it also sounds too calculated. Like whoever named it wants to make sure I engage with the White Jade Belvedere brand. It's probably within walking distance of the Misty Lake Esplanade.
|
|
#
?
Dec 9, 2015 05:24
|
|
|
I Love You! posted:I always expected to expand well as Shinuyama that's why I tested exactly no battles before playing them in this game Your summons are still pretty good, with my favorite being the Kitsune and the Dai Tengu.
|
|
#
?
Dec 9, 2015 07:17
|
|
|
amuayse posted:Well they don't have Oni like in EA or Ryujin like in LA, but Bakemono Sorcerers are recruitable everywhere. The downside is that they're incredibly old. Kappas aren't that bad either for getting UW, but that's not really saying much since the Bakemono troops are garbage. The other mages are fine though, with the Uba being a decent sitesearcher or battlemage or the cheap mountain recruitable Bakemono shaman. The words are familiar, but i dont think your in the right thread mate
|
|
#
?
Dec 9, 2015 07:22
|
|
|
Strangely appropriate.
|
|
#
?
Dec 9, 2015 07:41
|
|
|
amuayse posted:Well they don't have Oni like in EA or Ryujin like in LA, but Bakemono Sorcerers are recruitable everywhere. The downside is that they're incredibly old. Kappas aren't that bad either for getting UW, but that's not really saying much since the Bakemono troops are garbage. The other mages are fine though, with the Uba being a decent sitesearcher or battlemage or the cheap mountain recruitable Bakemono shaman. mima confirmed for sure
|
|
#
?
Dec 9, 2015 09:56
|
|
|
El Burbo posted:The words are familiar, but i dont think your in the right thread mate Does anyone know if the Dai Tengu is a wolf or a crow? Or is it just a fandom creation and is never actually mentioned in canon?
|
|
#
?
Dec 9, 2015 09:57
|
|
|
BlitzBlast posted:It resurrected like, a week after it died. I'm gonna try and catch up now but thanks a ton to everyone who worked on that.
|
|
#
?
Dec 9, 2015 10:03
|
|
|
PMiSS mentions a variety of tengu castes, the Daitengu is just one of those. Crow and Wolf tengu are just two castes of, like, five. We've never seen any of the other three, although SoPM describes one of them (not daitengu) as the long-nosed type. Daitengu are supposedly the upper management. Incidentally, Daitengu just means Greater Tengu or something. The actual leader of the tengu is someone named Tenma, who was mentioned as having negotiated with Kanako in MoF. It's not clear if Tenma is even part of the caste system at all. Clarste fucked around with this message at 10:22 on Dec 9, 2015 |
|
#
?
Dec 9, 2015 10:04
|
|
|
celeron 300a posted:mima confirmed for sure
|
|
#
?
Dec 10, 2015 00:06
|
|
|
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDmWZFzifEk
|
|
#
?
Dec 10, 2015 00:47
|
|
|
give back gensokyo clay
|
|
#
?
Dec 10, 2015 00:55
|
|
|
The only type of Belvedere I know are a butler and a vodka.
|
|
#
?
Dec 10, 2015 01:46
|
|
|
We're talking about Yuyuko riding in one of these right?
|
|
#
?
Dec 10, 2015 02:05
|
|
|
Elliotw2 posted:We're talking about Yuyuko riding in one of these right? Close, but it'd be more like: 
|
|
#
?
Dec 10, 2015 02:23
|
|
|
While we're on the subject of mistranslated Touhou things, what's the deal with the "wait warmly" and "watch warmly" translation? Which is correct?
|
|
#
?
Dec 10, 2015 04:28
|
|
|
There's confusion over that? It's "wait warmly", the engrish you see on the game loading screens.
|
|
#
?
Dec 10, 2015 04:36
|
|
|
SirSlarty posted:The only type of Belvedere I know are a butler and a vodka. We may not agree on clownpiece but I agree with you on this.
|
|
#
?
Dec 10, 2015 04:45
|
|
|
BlitzBlast posted:There's confusion over that? It's "wait warmly", the engrish you see on the game loading screens. (I swear I'm not trying to bust your chops or anything.) leather fedora fucked around with this message at 06:09 on Dec 10, 2015 |
|
#
?
Dec 10, 2015 05:57
|
|
|
Welp. Guess I should actually play the games sometime soon. 
|
|
#
?
Dec 10, 2015 06:25
|
|
|
 Thank you, girls.
|
|
#
?
Dec 10, 2015 06:35
|
|
|
Wasn't sure if the title screens were translated since I always load the English patches and wasn't sure if the title screen was hard-translated. I've seen "wait warmly" more often in English derivative works. celeron 300a posted:We may not agree on clownpiece but I agree with you on this. Both are fantastic 80's/90's things.
|
|
#
?
Dec 10, 2015 06:37
|
|
|
I prefer "Drink Copiously" myself.
|
|
#
?
Dec 10, 2015 06:58
|
|
|
I love the little disclaimer at the end of MoF. "The legal drinking age is 20, so let's enjoy deliciously and responsibly." But sadly, that was originally in japanese. not engrish,
|
|
#
?
Dec 10, 2015 07:27
|
|
|
I hope I'm not too late to post a smug Junko. Bonus smug Clownpiece 
|
|
#
?
Dec 10, 2015 15:35
|
|
|
It's never too late to post Clownpiece.
|
|
#
?
Dec 10, 2015 17:05
|
|
|
Smunko Smugpiece
|
|
#
?
Dec 10, 2015 18:36
|
|
|
Forbidden Scrollery 31
|
|
#
?
Dec 11, 2015 03:25
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 11, 2024 17:18 |
|
|
Whoa, I didn't know a new Curiosities of Lotus Asia got made. Cool
|
|
#
?
Dec 12, 2015 04:20
|
|