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Tirade posted:Take joy in knowing that while Rudd and Gillard have gone on to successful careers in prominent international organisations and universities, Abbott's post-politics options look to be trending towards a Latham-style twilight of writing obnoxious op-eds for Australia's failing print media. And his relevance will continue to decrease over time. Seeing Hockey take a promotion hasn't bolstered my faith in incompetent shitbags being unemployable after their political career.
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Dude McAwesome posted:Seeing Hockey take a promotion hasn't bolstered my faith in incompetent shitbags being unemployable after their political career. Of the two people sacked from the two highest positions in the national government he was probably the better candidate to offer the post to. Even though he was stupid for saying it, he was right when he said he would have spent his time in parliament getting back at his enemies. At least this way the government only has to contend with Abbott rather than both of them.
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Being either prime minister or treasurer involves a huge responsibility, and that includes having access to highly sensitive government information. That information has a price and so it makes sense to offset that price by offering them a nice sinecure to get them out of the picture. The real challenge is not to punish them for holding the position but to ensure clods like them never get into those positions in the first place.
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Personally I am shocked that a primary school which markets itself to anti-vaccers has had 25% of it's students contract chickenpox in the last two weeks. http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/e...209-gljzkx.html
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http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-12-10/government-warns-port-of-melbourne-will-go-to-market/7016398 posted:The Port of Melbourne's long-term lease will be put to the market this afternoon if Victoria's Parliament does not pass a bill to trigger its sale, the State Government has said. Can someone explain how they can bypass Parliament? What's the point in even bothering with any of it if they can just do what they want anyway? It doesn't surprise me but what the gently caress. Also, lol at "unlocking the value in the Port of Melbourne". Kill yourself you neoliberal hack.
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we paid $42 million to put in a bid to host the world cup. that's like several schools and hospitals worth. how about paying for some new teachers.. pay them 60, 70 gently caress it $80k per year. pay them enough so people actually want to teach. that's 525 new teachers positions. at 80k. $1.2 billion... the mind reels at what that could achieve.
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ScreamingLlama posted:The VIC Young Libs opened their Christmas party to the public at $20 a head... and the trolls are giving them a run for their money on Facebook. 
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Les Affaires posted:Of the two people sacked from the two highest positions in the national government he was probably the better candidate to offer the post to. Even though he was stupid for saying it, he was right when he said he would have spent his time in parliament getting back at his enemies. What sort of dickhead appoints Hockey as ambassador after he says that he'd spent his time in parliament getting back at people? Sure, he's no longer in parliament, but he's still in public office. Has he suddenly decided that he doesn't want to get back at the people that ousted him? Les Affaires posted:The real challenge is not to punish them for holding the position but to ensure clods like them never get into those positions in the first place. I'm not wanting to punish Hockey for holding the position, but for being in a position of immense power and doing such a lovely job at it. His own party thought he did a lovely job, the general public though he did a lovely job. What's the message here? Be a complete and total gently caress-up and get rewarded? I know at the end of the day it's a way for the government to get rid of a potential agitator, so I guess this is more of a vent than anything.
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Personally I think the ease at which Hockey can slip into a low-effort ambassadorial role just highlights how unemployable Tony Abbott is. As Tirade said, he'll slip into a Latham-esque role writing for the media, but I believe he'll be even more Latham-esque than Latham himself, if that's even possible, due simply to the dirty laundry about his organisational skills being put on such public display. Seriously, how could you ever entrust any position of responsibility or leadership to this man ever again?
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open24hours posted:Can you get vaccinated against chicken pox? What the gently caress back in my day we had to suffer through the itching kids these days have it so easy
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Solemn Sloth posted:a fun project for a what now? I know you can get rent assistance, I was on and off it for years but mercifully I've been employed for the last 5. It still shocking to see how low it is and how it has not increased.
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I see him more as a kind of Sarah Palin figure. Traveling around giving boring speeches, making jokes that only make sense if you have a very specific world view, and raking in the cash.
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open24hours posted:I see him more as a kind of Sarah Palin figure. Traveling around giving boring speeches, making jokes that only make sense if you have a very specific world view, and raking in the cash. See that's fine, he'll just become the modestly wealthy weird guy who hangs around at his family barbecues. "I used to be prime minister" "yes dear of course you did, please pass the potato salad" "...stop the boats..."
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open24hours posted:Can you get vaccinated against chicken pox? A pox on you!  
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Kommando posted:I know you can get rent assistance, I was on and off it for years but mercifully I've been employed for the last 5. quote:Energy Supplement $8.80
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Re the dole: I suspect it's putting some downward pressure on supermarket prices, because if people on the dole can't buy things, that's a lot of stock not getting sold. Coles goes absolutely mad with particular items that makes no sense unless they're actually desperate to shift them, and Woolies at last have begun to follow them. It helps that locally there is some competition still from Aldi and actual small business grocers, butchers and bakers. Capsicums are still ridiculously expensive however, they're dearer than bananas. But it's difficult to stir-fry bananas.
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I know people are joking about kids being lucky not to go through chicken pox, that most people in the thread had chicken pox when they were a kid and most of us it was itchy and uncomfortable. No big deal right? The reason that we are vaccinating against chicken pox is for two reasons. 1) A small percentage of children who have chicken pox get quite sick and need hospitalisation. Some even loving die from it. 2) The far bigger problem they are trying to avoid is that once you chicken pox, you never actually clear the virus. It stays dormant at the bottom of your spine. If the virus reactivates, it comes back as shingles (zoster) which can be pretty loving nasty. It can be incredibly painful and even when it clears, a lot of people suffer from whats called postherpatic neuralgia, which is a type of neuropathic pain that lingers. Also people can die from shingles. We are vaccinating our kids against chicken pox to hopefully wipe out shingles.
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Freudian Slip posted:2) The far bigger problem they are trying to avoid is that once you chicken pox, you never actually clear the virus. It stays dormant at the bottom of your spine. If the virus reactivates, it comes back as shingles (zoster) which can be pretty loving nasty. It can be incredibly painful and even when it clears, a lot of people suffer from whats called postherpatic neuralgia, which is a type of neuropathic pain that lingers. Also people can die from shingles. Yes. If I had known shingles was a thing I would have gotten immunized as soon as I could. I was never infected nor immunized as a child, caught it as an adult.
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Les Affaires posted:Seriously, how could you ever entrust any position of responsibility or leadership to this man ever again? Why did they do it to begin with? Why did they rally around him specifically and not any of the other, more competent and less outwardly broken options? What talents does he possess that aren't matched by the average primary school student? I've never gotten a satisfactory answer on that.
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Freudian Slip posted:I know people are joking about kids being lucky not to go through chicken pox, that most people in the thread had chicken pox when they were a kid and most of us it was itchy and uncomfortable. No big deal right? Yeah, I was just pretending to be an old person. I caught something chicken pox related according to my doctor when I was a teenager, some form of the measles or something, I don't remember. It was super loving painful though, I thought I was dying.
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PaletteSwappedNinja posted:Why did they do it to begin with? Why did they rally around him specifically and not any of the other, more competent and less outwardly broken options? What talents does he possess that aren't matched by the average primary school student? I've never gotten a satisfactory answer on that. Because in part it was a failure of the party to recognise the different skills required to win an election versus govern a country. Both the ALP and the LNP are now very experienced in both of these things, from Rudd and Abbott. Winning an election is about focusing the attention of the electorate on enough issues that differentiate between the two parties over a very defined, limited period of time, ie the months up until the election. Governing a country requires managerial and leadership skills because you're not just trying to win over a small number of people but the majority of the country. Both parties made the mistake of thinking the skills to do the former transferred well enough to the latter. They were both wrong.
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Les Affaires posted:Because in part it was a failure of the party to recognise the different skills required to win an election versus govern a country. Both the ALP and the LNP are now very experienced in both of these things, from Rudd and Abbott. You forget that people like Minchin and Abetz et al actually believe, deeply, in their positions on warming and boats and gays and whatever. They could not tolerate a moderate and Abbot was the only non-moderate even close to being capable of leadership (lol). Abbotts recent statements about muslims needing to change their religion just prove what a blind and dangerous loving individual he was. The guy was born 1000 years to late. He should have be charging the walls of Jerusalem on horseback. I think we had a close call (probably the only thing between us and a large scale war is that Obama got a second term).
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Tony Abbott posted:We must secure the existence of our people and a future for White Children.
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Tony Abbott posted:White Man, let us stand together to secure the survival of your people and my people, for they are one and the same - they are our beloved, miraculous, wonderful, blessed and masterful white race!
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"I'm Hitler" -Anthony "Tony" Hitler
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Review headed by broadcaster Ray Martin and former SBS executive Shaun Brown effectively dismisses widespread criticism from Coalition MPs over the show’s political balance. WELL THAT WAS A GOOD USE OF MONEY.
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EXAKT Science posted:So Tones is the Aussie answer to Trump? Yeah except Australia as a country was actually dumb/racist enough to elect tones
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Donald trump would wipe the floor with Malcolm Turnbull in Australia
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Solemn Sloth posted:Yeah except Australia as a country was actually dumb/racist enough to elect tones Haha you underestimate us 
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EXAKT Science posted:So Tones is the Aussie answer to Trump? Trump has a bully's charisma and showmanship, whereas Abbott generally looked pretty awkward unless he was in full attack mode. Their personal histories have basically no similarities either. I guess they both like talking about how attractive their daughters are?
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EXAKT Science posted:So Tones is the Aussie answer to Trump? Abbott is a more palatable version of Trump. If Trump were Australian, his policies would be to sink refugee boats with the refugees still on board, and to refuse welfare payments and public healthcare to muslims. Whereas Abbott has calmed his lust for blood to a point where he is willing to let political institutions slowly wear down and break the undesirables.
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Doctor Spaceman posted:If only Australia had an eccentric billionaire who spent shitloads of his own money to get into politics running as an outsider candidate... *farts*
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open24hours posted:More Santorum than Trump. Yeah. I can't think of an Australian similar to Trump, unless one of those Reclaim fuckwits is a libertarian billionaire property developer.
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Which goon was that again? poo poo like that doesn't seem to happen here anymore which is kinda sad.
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