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Alain Post posted:Assholes suck up to the boss. Real men do things themselves. I'm not saying anything in the last month has been good booking, but like, jesus, do you think cozying up to the boss offering you a free pass to the top is a face move, then?
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Like honestly, all of this just seems like a misguided attempt to compare wrestling morality to real morality, which, yeah, it's going to seem hosed up because in the real world, we try to discourage people from solving all their problems with violence. But that'd be lovely rear end booking in wrestling.
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Alain Post posted:Like honestly, all of this just seems like a misguided attempt to compare wrestling morality to real morality, which, yeah, it's going to seem hosed up because in the real world, we try to discourage people from solving all their problems with violence. But that'd be lovely rear end booking in wrestling. "You bumped into me in the hallway. Now we could go out there and have a match to settle this minor dispute.. or I could kinda be annoyed for five minutes and move on with my life."
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Dec 10, 2015 04:26
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Remember when Kane had a feud over spilled coffee?
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John Cena is a really inconsistent character. I know that's not news but it's worth repeating.
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Alain Post posted:Like honestly, all of this just seems like a misguided attempt to compare wrestling morality to real morality, which, yeah, it's going to seem hosed up because in the real world, we try to discourage people from solving all their problems with violence. But that'd be lovely rear end booking in wrestling. I think I'm just not saying it right. It isn't that the storyline itself is wrong, it's that there's plenty of good motivation for why it's happening that would make it a half-decent, almost possibly compelling story and instead they've ignored all of it and boiled it down to Big Roman Has Potatoes, Does Things Himself Cause He Big Boy, Widdwe Sheamus Has Tater Tots, Uses Gold Suitcase
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Grant DaNasty posted:enjoy Only a brief 17 minutes.
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nooneofconsequence posted:Only a brief 17 minutes. good tater tots take time in the fryer
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I want the Philadelphia crowd to drown out Reigns' promo with tater tot chants.
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keevo posted:I want the Philadelphia crowd to drown out Reigns' promo with tater tot chants. I want Vince to write a promo for Roman to pander to the Philadelphia fans by talking about how much he enjoys ketchup slathered Philly steak sammiches.
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I want Reigns to cry after winning the world title for the second time
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keevo posted:I want the Philadelphia crowd to drown out Reigns' promo with tater tot chants. Philadelphia Crowd is a hell of a lot different than the Rumble Crowd was. You're looking forward to the Brooklyn crowd on the 28th.
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Lady Naga posted:Babyfaces (especially company mascot John Cena) are supposed to be the better man. At the very least, "if someone you barely know takes something from you, beat the hell out of them" isn't a very good message for kids. Historically the big blowoff to a babyface vs stable feud was the babyface getting five minutes with the unathletic, weak manager. Jon Stewart hosed him over and deserved to get wrecked.
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*roman comes out with black mascara and black lipstick, wearing long jorts and a marilyn manson t shirt* "What about me? What about Roman???"
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Ostentatious posted:*roman comes out with black mascara and black lipstick, wearing long jorts and a marilyn manson t shirt* rip Kanyon
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the product right now is poo poo, but the thought that "hitting a prick who cost you the title for petty reasons is a heel move" is about on the same level as "maybe brock was shooting on Reigns at mania!" for me this is wrestling, the face isn't "in the moral right", they're just the guy that's (meant to) be getting cheered, whatever that takes
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John Cena isn't just "a face" don't be dense.
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Sami Zayn, IMO the single best face WWE currently employs, has had multiple angles inside and outside of matches about how he tries to be a good person at all times, no matter what, and it totally owns and is an absolutely wonderful message to send to kids (and, hell, some adults) watching I'd be fine with Reigns being kind of an rear end in a top hat in the same way Austin was an rear end in a top hat, they just need to commit to it and not leave him in the same lovely in-between where Cena is oatgan posted:The crowd cheered the only people cheering were the people cheering for the spot, not for Cena, fwiw
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Lady Naga posted:The dynamic of a manager versus a celebrity guest host is so different there's no real comparison. Oh, so he belonged in the ring interfering with the match even less than a manager, who at least is allowed to be at ringside unless banned by a stipulation.
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the product is stupid *sits down indian style on the floor* i don't like it *crosses arms* it's stupid. *flops over onto a side* they should be pushing reigns as a heel *begins to kick his feet into the ground causing his body to rotate in a circular motion* hitting jon stewart wasn't a heel move.
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If you don't want comeuppance for being an idiot, don't show up the next night after being an idiot This is honestly the stupidest thing I've seen a person defend since I saw someone say they were surprised Bryan changed nothing from his last injury and got hurt again within 2 months after returning
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MassRafTer posted:Historically the big blowoff to a babyface vs stable feud was the babyface getting five minutes with the unathletic, weak manager. Jon Stewart hosed him over and deserved to get wrecked. Yes but that was usually a Bobby Heenan or Jim Cornette type. Somebody who had been making the life of the wrestler miserable for months or orchestrated career threatening injuries. I mean I don't think the idea of a celebrity coming in and costing a babyface the championship is a bad one, but the choice of beloved Jon Stewart to do it is the problem. And probably not "Championships come and championships go" Cena, ether.
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Holy poo poo, this Sheamus/Roman promo-off is seriously the worst. Roman is like a bad e-fed character, Sheamus is so bland he could be literally anyone who was a generic top heel in the past 20 years.
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Fat Lowtax posted:If they brought K-Fed back in 2015 he'd still get heat. Miss that dude. Cena may have kicked his rear end by the end of the night, but to this day he's the only one to have a 1-0 match record against Cena 
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Gonzo McFee posted:Yes but that was usually a Bobby Heenan or Jim Cornette type. Somebody who had been making the life of the wrestler miserable for months or orchestrated career threatening injuries. Better he care about something than not, he taught an annoying turd a lesson and thankfully that guy hasn't been seen since. People just want to find some reason to jump on John if he didn't do anything he wouldn't care, how could he just let it go when this guy cost him the record!!!!
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If Cena hadn't AA'd Stewart people would complain that he doesn't ever care when he loses the title. Which is also a valid complaint because Cena does show up the night after being screwed and acts like it doesn't matter all the time but this is due to Cena's screwy characterisation where he takes things seriously until he doesn't. If Cena's character made sense on any level none of these discussions would be happening.
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Another idea, bring Color Me Badd to guest host Raw. Xenoletum posted:Philadelphia Crowd is a hell of a lot different than the Rumble Crowd was. You're looking forward to the Brooklyn crowd on the 28th. Remind me how they're different.
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even the Brooklyn crowd on the 28th is gonna be different from the Summerslam crowd it was last time, I dunno still think both crowds will be smarkier than usual
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MassRafTer posted:Better he care about something than not, he taught an annoying turd a lesson and thankfully that guy hasn't been seen since. People just want to find some reason to jump on John if he didn't do anything he wouldn't care, how could he just let it go when this guy cost him the record!!!! If Cena beat up Leno I could see that working. Or Adam Sandler. Then Cena could do a racism and all of Sandler's fans will shift allegiance to the bigger, stronger racist.
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abraham linksys posted:even the Brooklyn crowd on the 28th is gonna be different from the Summerslam crowd it was last time, I dunno the smarks are the only fans left at this point
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Ruggington posted:remember when roman reigns poisoned stephanie mcmahon https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Fs20XN_j0k
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