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Annath posted:So in the continuing saga of WTF, one of my coworkers is meeting with the Chief Nursing Executive about an incident wherein the offgoing day shift charge nurse laid hands on him (grabbed him by the wrist and tried to pull him) because he was using "her" computer to print out the shift assignment. I'd kill a (wo)man for trying to use MY computer. Seriously though what a bunch of morons. B-Mac fucked around with this message at 23:40 on Nov 13, 2015 |
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B-Mac posted:I'd kill a (wo)man for trying to use MY computer. Seriously though what a much of morons. The particular charge nurse who grabbed him has been a real source of frustration on the unit since her "promotion" to a Shift Resource position. Lots of people don't like her, and she doesn't help matters by being super pretentious. She signs all her progress notes under Critical Care Medicine instead of Nursing for example, and if someone asks her to help them out/do them a favor when she doesn't want to, she apparently has the policy manual memorized because she can whip out some official reason why she can't grab a set of vitals or call a doc for them.
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Annath posted:You know, I kinda wondered if replies here were gonna be negative. Cacafuego posted:Ha! I'm not trying to be negative, I'm saying it from experience. Learn from my mistakes, although if you want to just get your foot in the door and just live with the problems, it's up to you. It's good to be wrong sometimes though and I wish you good luck. Annath posted:It's not just you. I lurk in this thread a lot, and there's a LOT of "that's terrible", "that's a bad sign", etc... Well, you got some experience, now get your rear end to somewhere that appreciates your enthusiasm. Also, now you get to be the jaded rear end in a top hat telling the new kids with stars in their eyes how the system really works. e: my mistake was that I took the job and the result was that I got the hell out of there as fast as I could. I went to the competition, never showed back up again and still have my ID. I had to call 6 months later to tell HR that I was no longer working there when I couldn't close and rollover my 401k to the new place. I was still an active employee as far as they knew. Cacafuego fucked around with this message at 23:19 on Nov 13, 2015 |
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Nov 13, 2015 23:16
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Annath posted:the offgoing day shift charge nurse laid hands on him (grabbed him by the wrist and tried to pull him) because he was using "her" computer Find a new job. When asked in the interview, be honest about your current workplace.
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end mill facade posted:Find a new job. When asked in the interview, be honest about your current workplace. This, however also be positive about it. Nothing turned me off worse than people who did nothing but bitch and moan about their previous work location. If you can essentially put a positive with a negative *I felt that the staff tried to do the bare minimum which I disliked as I am one who prefers to go above and beyond expectations* This lets me know why they're leaving, but also lets me know that they're not leaving because the old facility wants to push them out, or that they're just a complainer.
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Yeah, I've got my friends from school checking their workplaces for openings. I'm done here. It's so frustrating. I really hoped that the fact that I was coming in as part of a big group along with new unit management that it'd be a case of sweeping out bad blood (or some appropriate metaphor). Instead it's been chronic understaffing, assholes in positions of petty authority, and cutting corners in new grad education. Speaking of, when I am looking for new jobs, should I bring up the lovely ACLS education? I'll have my certification, but I genuinely don't feel like I know the material yet.
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Shock fools. Pump chest. Push epi. You're golden.
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Annath posted:Speaking of, when I am looking for new jobs, should I bring up the lovely ACLS education? I'll have my certification, but I genuinely don't feel like I know the material yet.
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Ravenfood posted:You probably won't feel comfortable with it until you do it. Its loving simple for a reason, but you need to do it (and not just the compressions because that lets you just shut off your brain). I guess what I mean is, should I explain that I only got trained via the online modules. Personally I think I'd benefit a lot from the actual ACLS class, but I don't want a potential employer to turn me down because the training is expensive.
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Annath posted:I guess what I mean is, should I explain that I only got trained via the online modules. Personally, I think you'll benefit a lot from actual code participation. No one is going to be surprised that a new grad has the educational gaps you've described. Be honest about it, if asked. Otherwise try not to spend interview time dwelling on minor details that don't reflect positively on you. ACLS class cost is negligible compared to the money wasted by a new hire who departs after 8 -12 weeks.
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Annath posted:I guess what I mean is, should I explain that I only got trained via the online modules.
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So this is the notice of deficiencies that the school that screwed a bunch of students (me included) out of admissions this past summer recently received. Every week I hear something about them that makes me so glad they did that and I'm not attending their program. Holy crap it sounds like a nightmare. I've heard of students having to go back to do additional clinical hours after their program is over because they didn't provide enough. https://www.azbn.gov/media/2070/nod-2015-gcu-final-mailed-040815.pdf #7 is my favorite. This school arena tour and a talk with first responders is TOTALLY equivalent to a clinical session in a critical care setting!
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A week ago I registered for junior college to knock out the prerequisites I need to get done to go back to nursing school. It'll be a year of prereqs before I can actually do my real applications, as all of my nursing and science classes I did when I was initially in school, 10+ years ago, or from my liberal arts bachelor's, are no longer acceptable (they are no good after 5 years, and understandably so, in some respects). Leaving my full time job to go back to school, and the uncertainty inherent in the whole process at the age of 33 has me saddled with some pretty heavy anxiety. On the upside, I have 3 separate programs I'm going to apply for, so hopefully that'll hedge my bets some. Going to apply for a MENP program and a BSN program at the University of Illinois at Chicago (the BSN program, however, has a very low acceptance rate of ~10% from what I've been reading). As a backup, I'll also be applying for the City College program, and accepting that I may have to work in a lower tier hospital for a few years while I do a night school BSN to work in a top shelf ICU/PACU/SICU (which is my endgoal). At least if I end up going to the City Colleges of Chicago, they are opening a new healthcare specialized school next year for all their health associates programs. Aside from keeping my grades up in my prerequisites (to try to drag up my lackluster initial bachelor's degree GPA), any other tips for constructing boss rear end nursing school application packages? At least I know I have the recommendation letters down. I've been writing recommendation letters for other people for the past 6 years. Marathanes fucked around with this message at 20:53 on Nov 16, 2015 |
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Marathanes posted:A week ago I registered for junior college to knock out the prerequisites I need to get done to go back to nursing school. It'll be a year of prereqs before I can actually do my real applications, as all of my nursing and science classes I did when I was initially in school, 10+ years ago, or from my liberal arts bachelor's, are no longer acceptable (they are no good after 5 years, and understandably so, in some respects). Leaving my full time job to go back to school, and the uncertainty inherent in the whole process at the age of 33 has me saddled with some pretty heavy anxiety. You could try to volunteer or work somewhere in the healthcare field as a CNA, PCT or EMT, or volunteer/shadow at a hospital.
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White Chocolate posted:You could try to volunteer or work somewhere in the healthcare field as a CNA, PCT or EMT, or volunteer/shadow at a hospital. The CNA cert is part of my prereqs, so I am certainly going to try to leverage that once I get it done to get some experience and start making connections / networking in the city. Means probably taking a pay cut in the short term, but given how much I hate my current job, that's fine by me.
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Marathanes posted:The CNA cert is part of my prereqs, so I am certainly going to try to leverage that once I get it done to get some experience and start making connections / networking in the city. Means probably taking a pay cut in the short term, but given how much I hate my current job, that's fine by me. You should shoot to get a per diem job once every other weekend while you are in nursing school- hopefully on a floor you are interested in. You won't want to work full time when you are in school, but if you can see what it is like and you may key into something that you become passionate about.
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White Chocolate posted:...you may key into something that you become passionate about. Wiping buttholes for OT cash.
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My favorite part of this pediatric rotation has been parents that handle the rear end wiping for me.
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So the hospital my nursing school is affiliated with has a bunch of openings for PCTs. How do I get them to notice me? I've listed my current job/experience and veteran status and I can't seem to get any inroads. One of my co-workers is also a student and he works EMS for the hospital and even he can't help me. What can I do to stand out?
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Do you do clinicals there? If so talk to the unit managers and see if they need extra help on whatever days you're available. Or ask your instructor if they know anyone.
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Fun Times! posted:Do you do clinicals there? If so talk to the unit managers and see if they need extra help on whatever days you're available. Or ask your instructor if they know anyone. This. I just got a job as a PCT by talking to my instructor and the nurse manager on my clinical floor. When I applied, I emailed the nurse manager and let her know I had done so, and she had HR pull my app that day. Networking is everything.
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Talk to HR/unit managers directly.
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I actually haven't done clinicals with this school yet I just transferred in, but we will be doing Ob/Peds and I am a dude. It isn't that I don't want to work in OB- I do but that whole dude thing may give them pause. I had my medic brother call around to see if he knew anyone and I may be getting an interview call soon.
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Ninety nine out of a hundred aren't going to give a poo poo.
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The one who does care is probably a bitch anyway.
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Dumb question. How bad do you guys think it is to cry in front of your coworkers/bosses, for reasons mainly having to do with anxiety and being too thin-skinned and being well aware of these issues but being unable to stop their onslaught from manifesting in the most humiliating, unstoppable of ways? I know I didn't do anything wrong, no one is saying I did anything wrong, everyone is saying I'm a good nurse, but essentially I got yelled at by a doctor for a stupid reason and I know this kind of thing happens all the time and I just couldn't stop crying. It wasn't even a terrible situation by any stretch but I just couldn't keep my face together and now I feel humiliated and like everyone must think I can't handle the job.
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Lots of people can't handle aggressive confrontation, especially getting yelled at. Lots of people go through rough childhoods, or are in the middle of domestic issues, and getting yelled at can bring up really bad memories. Don't beat yourself up over it. If your coworkers are good they'll have your back.
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boquiabierta posted:Dumb question. How bad do you guys think it is to cry in front of your coworkers/bosses, for reasons mainly having to do with anxiety and being too thin-skinned and being well aware of these issues but being unable to stop their onslaught from manifesting in the most humiliating, unstoppable of ways? I know I didn't do anything wrong, no one is saying I did anything wrong, everyone is saying I'm a good nurse, but essentially I got yelled at by a doctor for a stupid reason and I know this kind of thing happens all the time and I just couldn't stop crying. It wasn't even a terrible situation by any stretch but I just couldn't keep my face together and now I feel humiliated and like everyone must think I can't handle the job. What was the stupid reason that caused the doc to yell at you? Assuming a hospital setting, remember that the doctors are not your bosses (and many of them don't even work for the hospital) and it is perfectly acceptable to call them out for being asshats.
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if a doctor openly yelled at you in front of patients/people/co-workers then bring it up to the boss as well, especially if it was something absurd rather than "hey you did this wrong i didn't appreciate it." ordeal. It sounds like it was more than that from how you put it. It's always good to council away from the public/other employees but straight up yelling or raising of the voice/anger towards a nurse isn't really acceptable. Bring it up to your chain of command. I had a nephrologist who was atrocious to our nurses and I flat out told him I wasn't going to take his poo poo and let him berate or verbally abuse the nurses and he'd have to deal with me if I heard anything of it. He was still a dick and would just hang up the phone on nurses but he stopped yelling at them and insulting them. Plus whenever I was on the floor he seemed to not want to deal with any nurses, did his poo poo and left, which really eased up the tension on the floor.
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Write it up. Document and submit. I got a renowned rear end in a top hat to cut his poo poo by documenting unprofessional behavior. Your hospital likely has professional conduct standards and I bet one specifically pertains to physicians. Leverage that.
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http://www.mightynurse.com/the-dirty-secret-that-is-ruining-nursing-stories/ http://ucdmc.ucdavis.edu/publish/news/newsroom/6223 Thoughts?
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Etrips posted:Old news? I only saw it recently 
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Thanks y'all. I feel like from your reactions I overblew the story a little -- it's resolved; the dr actually apologized to me later, which I know is an exceedingly rare thing indeed. The bosses know what happened and were concerned and interested to know how I was treated and to ensure the situation was resolved. So I don't think there's anything to actually do; I was just really, really embarrassed to have cried in front of coworkers including my bosses when they brought it up with me the next day. I guess I have to get over it and work on developing my thicker skin in the future.
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boquiabierta posted:the dr actually apologized to me later, which I know is an exceedingly rare thing indeed A year ago I was circulating a cardiac case. Sternum is open, PA is harvesting the leg vein (using an endoscopic device to remove the Greater Saphenous Vein), fellow is taking down the IMA (squatting on a stool, unroofing the Left Internal Mammary Artery from the anterior chest). The surgeon had stopped by for timeout and brief, then departed, saying "call me when you're looking at the heart" (when the pericardium is open). Things are humming along when Dr. Licknob silently enters, scans the room, and approaches the fellow from behind. He grabs the headlight and starts unscrewing it to remove it. The fellow whips around to shout something obscene, sees who he's about to yell at, and utters "Um, can I help you?" Dr. Licknob says "This is my headlight. I'm taking it." Fellow says "I don't think this is yours. I got it from over there." Dr. Licknob says "This is my headlight. I know what mine looks like and I'm taking it." and reached for the light again. I said "You're headlight says LOANER on it?" and everyone in the room focused on the headlight itself, where 1 inch letters were painted on the band. Dr. Licknob jerks his head as he looks at it, turns and glares at me for 5 seconds before storming out of the room.
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Anyone have experience with liability insurance. I am required to have it for my RN-BSN program during the nursing courses and know jack poo poo about any of it. Found one at NSO.com for $109 for a year.
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Just buy whatever is cheapest and don't accidentally give a patient coffee through their central line and you should be good to go!
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Or trach inflation balloon pilot line. Or Foley inflation line. Or EVD. Or art line. But the rectal tube is fine I hear coffee enemas are all the rage.
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Keeping coffee out of a PA line was rule numero uno under my unit's P/P section
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On the flip side, if it's 0200 and you don't want to wake the on call doc for an order for enzymes to unclog a PEG, coffee works pretty good in a pinch.
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