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Modus Man posted:yeah it looks like they made 19,000 9-7x and only 9,000 9-2x so your even worse off than I am. At least our internals are from more popular vehicles. I'll eventually be driving a 9-7x with a front clip made entirely of duct tape and a roadkill-style chicken wire grill with ebay headlights behind it Find an Oldsmobile Bravada front end and do a full swap so people can't decide which defunct GM brand they just saw you driving.
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It sounds like a complete bag of poo poo in the video too... quote:The car runs HKS adjustable dampers and super-hard 70kg/mm springs from 326 Power in order to eliminate any sort of piston movement or shock absorption. Though this bit confuses me. If you're dropping your car as low as possible and want your suspension to move exactly zero mm, why are you even putting suspension in? Just weld that poo poo right up at the height you want. Or have I just opened up a new way of doing dumb things with cars?
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88h88 posted:Though this bit confuses me. If you're dropping your car as low as possible and want your suspension to move exactly zero mm, why are you even putting suspension in? Just weld that poo poo right up at the height you want. Or have I just opened up a new way of doing dumb things with cars?
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Haha, that's about 4000lb/in. There is basically no point in even having a damper or spring there. And yeah, with a shitload of downforce you end up with really stiff springs just to keep the car level and off the ground, which is not ideal for mechanical grip. You'll also see things like extra springs and dampers that only work on both sides under compression so that the suspension can move a little more in slower corners.
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I'm surprised no one is making cone shaped tires yet to serve those clowns.
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xzzy posted:I'm surprised no one is making cone shaped tires yet to serve those clowns. http://www.cambertire.com/ Unfortunately, the inventor responded to the question "wouldn't a cone shape tire like that want to roll in a circle, and essentially be scrubbing trying to drive in a straight line" with a simple "shut up, i'm an engineer" and the whole thing is basically dead.
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Powershift posted:http://www.cambertire.com/ the gallery is a thing of beauty not fit for this thread    CamberTire Hugh G. Rectum fucked around with this message at 10:28 on Dec 9, 2015 |
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Brain damage in car form.
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It looks like it got thumped by one of those whack-a-mole mallets.
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Anime Reference posted:That's actually a thing some F1 teams experimented with during the ground effects era after sliding skirts were banned. The Lotus 80 had sliding skirts but was massively flawed aerodynamically (when the car pitched and dove under braking or was faced with uneven track surfaces it would lose grip), so they attempted to resolve this by fitting something ridiculous like 2000lb/in. springs. It helped the car's behaviour but the consequence of fitting those springs was that the test driver could not keep his feet on the pedals.
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Many of the ground effect cars were pretty brutal to drive.
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MCM made a car with a welded up suspension and managed to drive it all of a 1/4 mile before giving up. https://youtu.be/GSc_T5JqUZ0?t=26m5s
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LFmWd2JkC8 3:40 You can sit on your wallet Alan.
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wildemere posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LFmWd2JkC8 Better yet, the bouncing was dragging the transmission on the ground.
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Uthor posted:MCM made a car with a welded up suspension and managed to drive it all of a 1/4 mile before giving up. This video led to this other one, which is great https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cu6h5IoqkoA
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Here watch a bunch of idiots put wheels on a Miata https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGwRwaiUIWw
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leica posted:Here watch a bunch of idiots put wheels on a Miata looks so good dood
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Gonna leave this because there's a million photos and you really need to appreciate this at your own speed. It's......... special. http://www.barryboys.co.uk/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=40718 Just putting this here as a teaser 
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leica posted:Here watch a bunch of idiots put wheels on a Miata Wooh those guys are a few brain cells short. But once I saw that samurai shifter I knew enough
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88h88 posted:Gonna leave this because there's a million photos and you really need to appreciate this at your own speed. It's......... special. This gets worse with every single photo.
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ALL-PRO SEXMAN posted:This gets worse with every single photo. It's pretty incredible.
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88h88 posted:Gonna leave this because there's a million photos and you really need to appreciate this at your own speed. It's......... special. "Roses are red, Violets are glorious, Never sneak up on Oscar Pistorius." im going to Hell for laffing at this
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Didn't think to grab my phone until it was too late, but it's not hard to replicate. Saw a car in a parking lot with this ubiquitous local dealership sticker: However, they'd done some... "creative" removal to turn it into:  The true terrible car stuff, by the way, is buying a car from an Earnhardt dealership. gently caress those guys.
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Earnhardt may suck, but camelback hyundai/kia pissed me off so bad I will never do business with them. What part of "Don't loving call me anymore" did these guys not understand?
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driguy posted:Earnhardt may suck, but camelback hyundai/kia pissed me off so bad I will never do business with them. What part of "Don't loving call me anymore" did these guys not understand? Was it "not"?
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IOwnCalculus posted:Didn't think to grab my phone until it was too late, but it's not hard to replicate. Saw a car in a parking lot with this ubiquitous local dealership sticker: I bought my SRT from them. Never EVER again.
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Maker Of Shoes posted:I bought my SRT from them. Never EVER again. First-hand with them, I wasted far too much of my life (probably an hour and a half, still too much) with them playing the most hilarious bullshit four-square sales tactics. I was interested in pretty much any one of the dozen or so 2004-2005 Mazdaspeed Miatas they had on hand, with the '06 NC Miatas being no more than a month or so from actually showing up on lots. When I laughed at their final offer (which was still above sticker on a two-year-old never-sold car) the salesman I'd been "working" with threw a loving hissy fit in the middle of the showroom, and his manager chased me out into the lot to try and get me to talk to them. They also sold a family member a known-salvage title vehicle without disclosing it, and wouldn't even attempt to diagnose the crank-but-no-start on a friend's car until she paid $Texas for a new battery. gently caress Tex Earnhardt, now and forever.
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IOwnCalculus posted:
Earnhardt. Now that's a name I've not heard in a long time...a long time. I used to live in Tempe and saw those stickers everywhere. I never heard a single good thing about them.
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IOwnCalculus posted:First-hand with them, I wasted far too much of my life (probably an hour and a half, still too much) with them playing the most hilarious bullshit four-square sales tactics. I was interested in pretty much any one of the dozen or so 2004-2005 Mazdaspeed Miatas they had on hand, with the '06 NC Miatas being no more than a month or so from actually showing up on lots. When I laughed at their final offer (which was still above sticker on a two-year-old never-sold car) the salesman I'd been "working" with threw a loving hissy fit in the middle of the showroom, and his manager chased me out into the lot to try and get me to talk to them. What do you mean by hissy fit? I would honestly love for something like that to happen to me at a dealership just so I could get it on video and post it everywhere including sending it to local news stations.
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IOwnCalculus posted:First-hand with them, I wasted far too much of my life (probably an hour and a half, still too much) with them playing the most hilarious bullshit four-square sales tactics. I was interested in pretty much any one of the dozen or so 2004-2005 Mazdaspeed Miatas they had on hand, with the '06 NC Miatas being no more than a month or so from actually showing up on lots. When I laughed at their final offer (which was still above sticker on a two-year-old never-sold car) the salesman I'd been "working" with threw a loving hissy fit in the middle of the showroom, and his manager chased me out into the lot to try and get me to talk to them. Yeah unfortunately the four square predatory bullshit worked on me. I was 19, dumb, had money and really wanted that car. It was only after a few years did I learn how bad they hosed me raw. Then trying to get service. That's a whole other set of lovely stories.
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leica posted:What do you mean by hissy fit? I would honestly love for something like that to happen to me at a dealership just so I could get it on video and post it everywhere including sending it to local news stations. This was in 2006 so I didn't have anything better than a potatophone, I don't think it even could take video (let alone anything watchable). But yes, a full on screaming paper-throwing tantrum. I distinctly remember another salesman working a family over at a table maybe 10 feet away doing his best to keep them from staring in horror. He literally brought us a paper with a cheesy dollar-store gift bow stuck on it and we all but threw it back in his face when we called him on just making one number bigger to get the other one "where we wanted it". In all honesty it might've been for the best, we'd only had our '99 Miata for a couple years and the higher payment even on the price we wanted to get might not have really been that affordable. I saw people on miata.net claiming stupid-low OTD pricing because the MSM just wasn't selling for poo poo and figured I'd try my hand at it. Now, older
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Maker Of Shoes posted:Four Square IOwnCalculus posted:Four Square Ugh. UGH! Back in 2001-2002 I sold Harleys at a dealership in Ann Arbor, MI. That whole place was crooked as a dog's hind leg, and we sold bikes with Four Square. The first and only job I ever got fired from-a day after my birthday and two weeks before my wedding. That job put me permanently off Harleys and Harley "culture". It was awful. So, yeah. It was me. I was the terrible automotive poo poo.
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leica posted:What do you mean by hissy fit? I would honestly love for something like that to happen to me at a dealership just so I could get it on video and post it everywhere including sending it to local news stations. Go to mitsubishi of new port ritchie, get the really guido jersey dude as your salesman, have a ball. Had a buddy looking at getting a base model lancer and wanted someone to go along with him to keep him from getting ripped off. It ended with me and the salesman in a screaming match in the parking lot 2 1/2 hours later because my friend decided he didn't want to go through with the sale. I'm a fun person to take to dealerships. 
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I didn't have a problem with Earnhardt. This is probably due to the fact that I already had an OTD price in writing from another dealership that I asked them to beat. No four square bullshit, if that had been the case I would have said see ya. Haven't had to really deal with them for service so far but the few things I have had have been taken care of. I definitely have heard some bad things about the various dealerships here though.
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My worst dealership experience was at a Honda shop, of all places, and I was fourteen. It was just after the first Insight had come out and I thought it was the coolest car in the world (still gonna own one someday!). The local dealership had one stuck out in front, and it just sat...and sat...and sat. No one was interested in it and they clearly weren't making any effort to sell it. Eventually, after like three months of it not moving, my dad and I decided to go check it out. 1. We waited outside the dealership in the winter, poking at the Insight and looking in the windows for several minutes, while the salesmen stood inside and watched us through the glass. There were no other customers (yeah, yeah, but I like it when the sales guys at least act interested in the product they're selling). 2. Eventually we went inside and they were very aloof. Took a while to find the keys to the car, while acting disinterested. 3. Came outside. "Can we take it for a test drive?" "Oh, yeah, but only one of you...I have to be in the passenger seat." "So I can't drive it with my son?" "No, but he can sit in it." 4. "Also you can't take it out on the roads. You can only drive it around our lot." 5. Dad gets in the car and they drive around to the back. Comes back and parks it. Sales guy gets out. "Alright, you good?" Leaves. 6. Dad tells me that when he got to the back and put it in neutral, the engine stopped. Sales guy goes "what'd you do, stall it?" and dad had to explain the idle-stop feature of the vehicle. Never went back to that dealership again. I still have never ridden in a moving Insight.
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Same but it was the 80s and it was a Plymouth Horizon, and he had it in mint shape until the mid 2000s. Also he sold a 914 for it 
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Sagebrush posted:My worst dealership experience was at a Honda shop, of all places, and I was fourteen. It was just after the first Insight had come out and I thought it was the coolest car in the world (still gonna own one someday!). The local dealership had one stuck out in front, and it just sat...and sat...and sat. No one was interested in it and they clearly weren't making any effort to sell it. Eventually, after like three months of it not moving, my dad and I decided to go check it out. I've always wanted a first gen one too. Coolest econobox ever.
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