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The incentives for the development of Mantle were "OpenGL sucks, mobile developers want something better, this seems like a good opportunity". Also, AMD had been entrenched in two entire console generations (Gamecube/Wii, Xbox 360, Wii U, PS4, Xbox One), and my understanding from two AMD engineers is that they had been asking for those APIs, but on PC. A large part of AMD's technical support staff were helping people un-NVIDIA their games as well. I think there were a lot of factors, and it was a combination of the right time, the right place, and the right luck. e.g. Valve was pushing SteamOS and they found that the tooling around OpenGL loving sucked, and it was easier to start over from scratch. But I don't have any contact with NVIDIA -- the story is always biased in the competitors' favor. I don't have any public and official sources for NVIDIA completely taking control of Khronos during that time period, but I do have it on authority from several colleagues who I trust. I've also heard that Autodesk also had a large hand in it -- AutoCAD was originally designed for IRIX, and my understanding is that a good majority of AutoCAD is legacy GL that nobody quite understands how it works. I actually don't know if Autodesk was on Khronos during that time period -- given that they were one of SGI's biggest customers, I think they might have been -- but I can't seem to find any records on this. Game developers were only allowed membership a few years ago.
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the fact that rob pike is so contrarian and retarded that he rejects syntax highlighting explains a lot about Go
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# ? Dec 10, 2015 07:52 |
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and then rob pike, also unironically posted:When I was a child, I used to speak like a child, think like a child,
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# ? Dec 10, 2015 07:56 |
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and alsorob pike, what the gently caress man posted:I see the benefits of syntax highlighting, just as I see the benefits
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# ? Dec 10, 2015 07:59 |
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i mean i think that's just some quality poo poo talk, sorta like saying emacs is bad or whatever
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# ? Dec 10, 2015 08:05 |
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didn't DICE design Mantle and then talk AMD into implementing it?
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# ? Dec 10, 2015 08:18 |
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daaamn so those things have a name? e: in my set the orange piece was also a ruler
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# ? Dec 10, 2015 08:18 |
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Ericadia posted:lmao
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pseudorandom name posted:didn't DICE design Mantle and then talk AMD into implementing it? The story I was told was that AMD started the project based on their experience with developing both the libgcm API and the Adreno chipset, and DICE helped out a ton by offering real-world experience and being a "first customer" -- that might boil down to designing a lot of it to fit into how modern engines work. I'm sure that DICE was super excited about it though -- everyone was.
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# ? Dec 10, 2015 08:24 |
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Elder Postsman posted:hey what do y'all think of Go http://yager.io/programming/go.html also if you ask Rob Pike why Go doesn't have map or filter: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/golang-nuts/RKymTuSCHS0/eP7mhEMVy6YJ quote:The modern programmer thinks a newline is a thousand times harder to comedyblissoption fucked around with this message at 10:00 on Dec 10, 2015 |
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What a colossal condescending rear end in a top hat
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# ? Dec 10, 2015 12:04 |
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Suspicious Dish posted:and also pike would be a great gimmick yosposter
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# ? Dec 10, 2015 12:34 |
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http://shitgonutssays.tumblr.com/
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# ? Dec 10, 2015 13:20 |
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Symbolic Butt posted:pike would be a great gimmick yosposter Pram is outed
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# ? Dec 10, 2015 13:52 |
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gonadic io posted:Pram is outed need a heavy amount of libertarian rhetoric too. For twelve years, you have been asking: Who is John Golang? This is John Golang speaking. I am the man who loves his life. I am the man who does not sacrifice his love or his values. I am the man who has deprived you of exceptions and thus has destroyed your world, and if you wish to know why you are perishing-you who dread knowledge -I am the man who will now tell you.”
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# ? Dec 10, 2015 13:59 |
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maybe "gently caress you got mine" is the design goal for golang
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# ? Dec 10, 2015 13:59 |
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gonadic io posted:What a colossal condescending rear end in a top hat
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# ? Dec 10, 2015 14:31 |
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like wow i knew he was an idiot but syntax highlighting you guys syntax highlighting
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# ? Dec 10, 2015 14:31 |
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I mean reasonable people can disagree about to what degree you like your editor to look like a christmas tree but at least four is a pretty nice common ground comments? at least? please?
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# ? Dec 10, 2015 14:32 |
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tef posted:need a heavy amount of libertarian rhetoric too. quote:Unsolicited comments are the foundation of nice things, and are a requirement for a productive community. Not calling bullshit when you see it is the primary reason the world is such in a sad state. I'm proud to call bullshit when I see it. This guy’s work has the potential effect of disrupting the entire Go ecosystem in a negative way. Author feelings be damned, I’m not going to tolerate this, I'm going to stand up and fight for what I believe in.
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# ? Dec 10, 2015 14:35 |
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what kind of retard would even consider using go?
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# ? Dec 10, 2015 15:44 |
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I swear this forum used to be teeming with them, or am I thinking of grey forum
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# ? Dec 10, 2015 15:48 |
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people pop up here every now and then touting their latest fad lang but lots of them get shamed into leaving and/or embrace the light of c#/java. remember when people used ruby? lol
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# ? Dec 10, 2015 15:49 |
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has there been anyone who's tried the current asp.net web stack and hasn't converted?
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Shaggar posted:has there been anyone who's tried the current asp.net web stack probably not
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# ? Dec 10, 2015 16:06 |
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"I call bullshit on you calling bullshit! "
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Emacs Headroom posted:probably not everyone here whos tried it has switched and the only people who haven't tried it are scared that they'll get something that works instead of having to deal with garbo p-langs.
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Shaggar posted:everyone here whos tried it has switched and the only people who haven't tried it are scared that they'll get something that works instead of having to deal with garbo p-langs. ive heard that .net stacks are common in finance. do you work in finance? the only tech place I know with a .net stack is zocdoc, and they were started by ex-finance people, ha
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# ? Dec 10, 2015 16:14 |
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Shaggar posted:people pop up here every now and then touting their latest fad lang but lots of them get shamed into leaving and/or embrace the light of c#/java. i used to use ruby lol. now i use c# and it's cool and good. i haven't tried the newest asp.net/mvc but i probably will at some point
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# ? Dec 10, 2015 16:15 |
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i thought all the stacks looked like react or whatever now, with the back-end stuff in jvm services?
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# ? Dec 10, 2015 16:19 |
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I'm trying to nudge a bunch of people into trying Erlang and marrying themselves to sweet, sweet pattern matching.
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# ? Dec 10, 2015 16:30 |
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tef posted:"gently caress you go mine"
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MononcQc posted:I'm trying to nudge a bunch of people into trying Erlang and marrying themselves [...] :gasp:
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# ? Dec 10, 2015 17:39 |
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lmao
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# ? Dec 10, 2015 18:17 |
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quote:Rob 'Commander' Pike Dude's been reading my blog posts.
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# ? Dec 10, 2015 18:52 |
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tef posted:For twelve years, you have been asking: Who is John Golang? This is John Golang speaking. I am the man who loves his life. I am the man who does not sacrifice his love or his values. I am the man who has deprived you of exceptions and thus has destroyed your world, and if you wish to know why you are perishing-you who dread knowledge -I am the man who will now tell you.”
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# ? Dec 10, 2015 19:24 |
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i just discovered this thing today and i find it pretty useful so i thought i would share https://www.linqpad.net/ thats my linq story cya
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# ? Dec 10, 2015 19:58 |
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Dessert Rose posted:like wow i knew he was an idiot but syntax highlighting i see ghosting and halos when looking at lit objects, including computer screens. syntax highlighting is an accessibility feature. same with language features like map and filter that express more with less characters
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# ? Dec 10, 2015 19:59 |
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MononcQc posted:I'm trying to nudge a bunch of people into trying Erlang and marrying themselves to sweet, sweet pattern matching. can u explain why elixir is bad, or is not bad? i have to rescue a garbage node app and am considering it
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Dessert Rose posted:like wow i knew he was an idiot but syntax highlighting I refuse to believe anything else. Rob Pike posted:“Aside from that, everybody knows a tab is 8 spaces wide."
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