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AlphaKretin posted:Who said we remember them fondly? One of the examples here is loving Head On, I won't speak for others but that sort of irritating poo poo just inspires spite, and I certainly won't buy it. Devils advocate: can you name another smear-on headache remover?
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Chapstick, since they both have the same active ingredients, route of administration, and efficacy according to the FDA
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Somfin posted:Devils advocate: can you name another smear-on headache remover? No, but that's because no others really exist, since it doesn't work. That's why they never talked about what the product actually does; it doesn't do anything, but they have to pretend it does. It still sort of works for something like Head On, I imagine. Even ignoring that it's a sham product, I think there's value in pushing a medicine-based product in an annoying way that gets stuck in people's heads. It's not like you're making informed decisions when you're sick, you're unwell and probably frustrated. You don't want to make a slow and reasoned decision, you want to make a quick one, to stop feeling like poo poo sooner.
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Somfin posted:Devils advocate: can you name another smear-on headache remover? Pretty sure LSD works topically, kind of hit-or-miss for headaches though. Probably better than head-on.
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IndustrialApe posted:ad-networks work in mysterious ways, most providers are caught regularly offering up malware because they just don't screen their ads or run them from compromised servers. Which is why the whine about customers switching on adblockers after computer security experts identified them as infection vectors is such a hubris from content providers. Something similar happened to us back when I worked on the AT&T portal page. Customers started complaining about virus alerts and after escalating the issue to management multiple times I learned there was a virus in our ad network feed, but that it's okay because it wasn't doing anything malicious. I hated that job so much. Because we were a telco with lots of old customers who thought our homepage was the Internet, we made huge amounts of revenue from advertising. Something like 45 million dollars each year. So of course they gutted our relatively small department and outsourced everything to Yahoo. Yahoo then took 50% of that ad revenue. Nothing made sense there.
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Full Battle Rattle posted:Pretty sure LSD works topically, kind of hit-or-miss for headaches though. Probably better than head-on. But you might wind up with a few more issues.
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Your department probably cost any decent company around 200k a head after wages, taxes, benefits, and equipment, so being able to cut even 5 people saves them around a million a year. Sure those people might not have been fired, but they could be shuffled into positions that would have otherwise been empty or into new positions and then they wouldn't have to pay for the new slots and the weeks/months of extra training to hire new people. On top of that, you could probably blame the virus if the gutting happened within 2 years of the outbreak. I'm sure one of the early calls included a question asking the company why they were interested in outsourcing the page, and if a single manager ever let slip the virus or liability issues, then that's a real easy way for Yahoo to twist the knife. "Well, you obviously don't want to face that liability, so you see why your current ad network is actually a threat to your company. Thousands of your customers have been affected by your developers' negligence, and we need to make sure that they don't lose faith in your company or jump ship to your competitors. Since your current solution is no good, you're left with two options. You can try to build another in-house system which would have a lead time of around a year to create the new system and require the acquisition of a much more specialized development, management, sales, and legal team. Or you could simply partner with us and use our turn-key solution. Your new site can be live literally the same day, we will handle all of the liability and client sourcing, your customers will associate you with a brand that they can truly trust, and your company can enjoy a 50% share of our ad revenue!" I can almost guarantee that it was sold as "we give you 50% of our revenue" as opposed to "it'll only cost you 50% of yours"
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twistedmentat posted:Dr Rebecca Watson I think her full academic title is Rebecca Watson (no PhD)
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Sentient Data posted:Your department probably cost any decent company around 200k a head after wages, taxes, benefits, and equipment, so being able to cut even 5 people saves them around a million a year. Sure those people might not have been fired, but they could be shuffled into positions that would have otherwise been empty or into new positions and then they wouldn't have to pay for the new slots and the weeks/months of extra training to hire new people. Oh I'm sure there was some valid business reason for the move. Short term however it resulted in a pretty big loss. Long term they probably made out well enough since they eventually outsourced all the consumer email to Yahoo as well. Advertising was just so hosed up. We started putting ads in front of all our media, including the kids section which played cartoons. This was 2008 or 2009 - so still a relatively new concept. The problem was the ad network displayed the same ads regardless of the target audience. So that Trojan condom ad and the promos for the new Sons of Anarchy? Yep. Right before the SpongeBob cartoons.
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AlphaKretin posted:Who said we remember them fondly? One of the examples here is loving Head On, I won't speak for others but that sort of irritating poo poo just inspires spite, and I certainly won't buy it. But, but there's no such thing as bad publicity!
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Boywhiz88 posted:I don't know what happened but I tend to have some repeats but not the same one ad again and again. Also, I hate how people don't understand that Hulu is different in a lot of ways than Netflix, between first-run shows, exclusives like FX series and Criterion movies and Seinfeld, and whatnot. So yeah, they charge what they charge. I like it because it's cheaper and easier than getting cable and DVRing the things I want to watch. It's a pay-to-watch streaming service that features movies and TV shows, some of which are exclusive. It is identical in every way to Netflix. comparing Hulu and Netflix is like comparing Showtime and HBO or Sears to Macy's. Obviously they offer different brands and services of varying quality, but they sell the same thing. I'm glad you like the commercials though. You could buy some of the products too, or like their page on Facebook to show your solidarity as a consumer.
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Hulu isn't some third party company, it is the networks. Funny thing is that back when hulu was new the commercial free option that I just learned about was all I ever wanted out of the service, but after years of having cut the cable and ignoring hulu out of principle I just can't bring myself to pull the trigger. I'm not one of those "I don't even own a tv" advocates, but I've completely weaned myself off of popular/current shows due to the networks' early unwillingness to adapt. If they offered commercial free from the beginning I'm sure I would have given them hundreds so far, but now I can't even be bothered to sign up for a trial
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BrigadierSensible posted:Remembering them puts zero dollars in their pockets at this very instant. You just proved my point that remembering the product is only halfway there. Head On and now Daily Fantasy Sports would make an interesting case study for their advertising being so obnoxious and hated that it brought about attention that eventually ended up ruining them. (The FDA telling people it's fake and the government figuring out "yeah this is gambling")
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Mu Zeta posted:Hulu has episodes up the next day while you might wait years for it to show up on Netflix. The commercials and monthly fee could be the only way to convince networks to allow that. That makes sense, I didn't realize they posted shows they had the rights to the next day. If they are owned by the networks then, the same commercial over and over and over makes even less sense. Someone, Somewhere HAS to know that's a bad idea.
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My beef with Hulu is their inconsistency. I tried to convince my wife to cut the cord. We were all set to switch to Aereo and use a combination of TV show subscriptions, Netflix, and Hulu to cancel U-Verse. But no, all the Food Network and Cooking channel shows she likes, which are listed as available on Hulu's site, turned out to be web browser only. Obviously our plan would've crashed and burned with Aereo, although the savings could have justified installing a kick rear end OTA antenna and using a Tivo Roamio OTA box.
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malal posted:That makes sense, I didn't realize they posted shows they had the rights to the next day. If they are owned by the networks then, the same commercial over and over and over makes even less sense. They show the same ads over and over because nobody wants to pay them for online ads. They have nothing to show.
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I keep seeing this YouTube ad for a poo poo anime game called Sword of Chaos. They blurred out the cleavage of all the ladies so it looks like everyone is fighting with their tits hanging out  Can't link it because the non-ad trailer doesn't have the censoring. It got me to not immediately skip the ad, so... good job? FutonForensic has a new favorite as of 16:54 on Dec 10, 2015 |
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At this point the streaming services are mostly about what content they have. Netflix is focusing on original TV shows and deemphasizing feature films because they have data which shows more people use it to binge TV, and their original programming is popular. Hulu+ has some original stuff but is more about current TV and feature films. And the movies don't have ad breaks so I've actually been using the service more for that than TV. It's weird that they've sort of switched places.
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FutonForensic posted:I keep seeing this YouTube ad for a poo poo anime game called Sword of Chaos. They blurred out the cleavage of all the ladies so it looks like everyone is fighting with their tits hanging out Checked out some screenshots and yeah, the advertising it just like that of Game of War or whatever. Push it with sexy things, people will click and install the game, and then get something completely different. Same thing like all of those Iso Age of Empires knockoffs that were being spewed out, but this time more of a budget Gauntlet style game without all the fun.
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Krispy Kareem posted:My beef with Hulu is their inconsistency. I tried to convince my wife to cut the cord. We were all set to switch to Aereo and use a combination of TV show subscriptions, Netflix, and Hulu to cancel U-Verse. But no, all the Food Network and Cooking channel shows she likes, which are listed as available on Hulu's site, turned out to be web browser only. I got comcast for my basic tv channels, partially because my local reception sucks, and partially because it makes my high speed internet cheaper. But one benefit from it is I get On Demand services. This includes next day availability of the few broadcast shows I watch, just like Hulu. Also like Hulu, these include non-skippable ads (the fast forward button doesn't work if the ads are playing. Comcast is canny). However, even THEY know not to just inundate you with the same ad over and over again. I think they go lazy and just include all the network-wide ads that played during the live broadcast, but I could be wrong. However, you do sometimes see weird things like "So and so, coming on next!" There's something more acceptable about the ads being on the tv rather than the computer, I dunno what it is. Habit?
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Bit of a palate cleanser and I'm sure a lot of you have seen these before (and they may have been posted in this very thread) but I was just reminded of these great German ads: For Edeka, a supermarket: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQyjI7UsGTU Blixa Bargeld reads the Hornbach catalogue (hardware store) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6DqRlG1YWU Translation: Flying Insect Destroyer with blue lamp: 72 watts, CE approved. Works fast, painless and Hygienic. Chemical free, environmentally friendly. Hornbach, there is always a solution. [sic. there is always something to be done] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gRQAZ93ihY Translation: Impact Drill PSB 1000 RCA, 1010 Watt. With integrated dust extraction. Maximum drill performance in concrete 16mm, maximum torque 17 newton meters. Auto-lock, incidence angle control. Hornbach, there is always a solution. edit:Translation might actually hurt the poetry but gently caress it it's there for anyone who is interested. NLJP has a new favorite as of 01:26 on Dec 12, 2015 |
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NLJP posted:Bit of a palate cleanser and I'm sure a lot of you have seen these before (and they may have been posted in this very thread) but I was just reminded of these great German ads: The bargeld ones own. But is that the same supermarket that above did the weird one with the old guy who owns because he fakes his own death to achieve dinner?
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CommonShore posted:The bargeld ones own. But is that the same supermarket that above did the weird one with the old guy who owns because he fakes his own death to achieve dinner? Haha I looked back a few pages and turns our you're right. Well, it's not like I'd claim all Hornbach adverts are up to the bar the Blixa ones set either.
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Mentioned this a few pages ago, but now it's gone full-blown head-up-rear end: Quick Summary: Honda ad campaign aims to dissolve perception of car salespeople as dishonest and greedy. Honda dealers go around doing "random acts of kindness" Today, I saw a claymation commercial, where an animated honda dealer buys trees for a lot of claymation people. Claymation, as in "not real." So A. they're being kinda dishonest about being "helpful," since no one real is being helped, but they are portraying themselves as helpful B. They're too greedy to just go buy a few trees for real people Great job, ad wizards https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7MZUHfYVB8 Whomever said ads just sell ads, I'm using that. Good summary.
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I've been seeing some commercials lately with this stick figure character that are narrated by Steve Blum. Guy must be getting desperate, it's weird hearing Spike Spiegel shilling for Popeyes.
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Drunk Nerds posted:Mentioned this a few pages ago, but now it's gone full-blown head-up-rear end: You're reading way too much into this. The ad is meant to evoke feelings of happy nostalgia for those lovely old claymation christmas cartoons everyone watched back in the 80s. They even use several of the characters. I mean you're not wrong, but that's not what most people will get from the ad.
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Drunk Nerds posted:Mentioned this a few pages ago, but now it's gone full-blown head-up-rear end: Honda dealer gives away free cars to flood victims http://www.telegraph.co.uk/cars/news/honda-dealer-gives-away-free-cars-to-flood-victims/ quote:In a post on its Facebook page, Kendal Honda announced that each day it is planning to donate one of its trade cars in the run up to Christmas, starting today with a 1999 Mercedes C-class. Meanwhile, a genuine act of kindness from a Honda dealer that didn't come from the corporate marketing dept and that actually makes me want to buy from them.
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My area had major flooding last summer, and no local dealerships stepped in to help any drat body.  I still replaced my beloved, flood-totaled Corolla with an Accord, though. Their future act-of-kindness disguised marketing was just that good.
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Sentient Data posted:It'll be fun to find out later that the cars were flood-damaged and therefore unsellable but the dealer got to write off the full value Considering the deal theyre giving with it, I doubt it.
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Sentient Data posted:It'll be fun to find out later that the cars were flood-damaged and therefore unsellable but the dealer got to write off the full value The cars are all made out of constantly-chafing asbestos.
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I tried looking up the english language honda kindness claymation ads. The first one I saw had a dealer help angels win a snowball fight who were too pacifist to throw themselves, by recruiting a snowman. Yep, that's the kind of kindness I look for when buying a car alright. Imaginary kindness.
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Wanamingo posted:I've been seeing some commercials lately with this stick figure character that are narrated by Steve Blum. Guy must be getting desperate, it's weird hearing Spike Spiegel shilling for Popeyes. I think it's less him being desperate and more a burning desire to be a voice in literally everything ever
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Boywhiz88 posted:Also, with some shows I like the break that commercials provide because of how writing tends to account for it. Or when they provide unintentional humor, like the infamous BSG/Campbell's soup juxtapostion: Character shoots herself in the head, graphic shot of blood pooling everywhere ---> cut to commercial with a cracker slo-mo splashing into a bowl of tomato soup. Walking Dead's known for running KFC ads right after zombie chowdowns, and Fear the Walking Dead ran US Army ads during the episode wherein our heroes discover that the military evacuating their neighborhood are a bunch of cowardly, self-serving assholes. Unrelated: There was an ad for a pickup truck several years back --- I want to say it was a Toyota, or the Nissan Titan or somesuch --- that for most of the ad was a slo-mo shot of this truck skidding sideways over wet pavement. Not only was that model ugly as gently caress, but I'd always catch myself thinking, "and why do I want a truck with such poor handling/traction that this 'professional driver, do not attempt' can't control it?" (I tried to find the ad on YT, but no joy.)
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JacquelineDempsey posted:Or when they provide unintentional humor, like the infamous BSG/Campbell's soup juxtapostion: Character shoots herself in the head, graphic shot of blood pooling everywhere ---> cut to commercial with a cracker slo-mo splashing into a bowl of tomato soup. I'd never heard of this one since I didn't watch it on regular TV, here it is (and  warning since it does involve a gunshot wound, of course)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zcum6lPrRo
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Sentient Data posted:I'd never heard of this one since I didn't watch it on regular TV, here it is (and Hahaha, holy poo poo. I incorrectly remembered the product (it's for the crackers, not soup), but until watching that video you posted I didn't notice the bit about the lyrics in the song. Pro-click. Anyone else know of some good content/ad break gaffs?
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Sentient Data posted:I'd never heard of this one since I didn't watch it on regular TV, here it is (and There is no way in hell this wasn't intentional, and I want to high-five the dude that did it.
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Sentient Data posted:I'd never heard of this one since I didn't watch it on regular TV, here it is (and That's amazing.
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