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You can now buy the Pixel C tablet on the Google store. You shouldn't, but you can.
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Rastor posted:You can now buy the Pixel C tablet on the Google store.
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Dec 8, 2015 20:17
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Yeah, Engadget and Ars both slammed it pretty bad today.
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Dec 8, 2015 20:30
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"...no Android tablet is worth your time." Holy poo poo Ars!
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Dec 8, 2015 21:33
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I wonder if the reviews would have been different if the Pixel C was running Chrome OS.
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Dec 8, 2015 21:55
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bull3964 posted:Yeah, Engadget and Ars both slammed it pretty bad today. Engadget gave a 77 and seemed at least intrigued by it. That'd slamming these days?
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Dec 8, 2015 23:16
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Honestly, this feels like Google got their hardware and software departments out of sync. I'm betting that real multi-window support was supposed to launch with this but got pushed back. But, they have the hardware now and didn't want to hold back.
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Dec 8, 2015 23:19
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AlexF posted:Engadget gave a 77 and seemed at least intrigued by it. That'd slamming these days? When their scale is pretty much 70-100 it is
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Dec 8, 2015 23:23
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AlexF posted:Engadget gave a 77 and seemed at least intrigued by it. That'd slamming these days? I don't look at scores. The title of the article was "Google's first tablet makes rookie mistakes" and basically sums up that the thing is hard to recommend. When you flat out say that you can't recommend buying something in a review, that's pretty much a slam on the device regardless of how much you may like the pieces that make it up. It's an impressively designed piece of hardware running software that isn't designed for the form factor. Unless you are within a small niche that this serves, it isn't worth considering until Google does something more with Android.
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Dec 8, 2015 23:27
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teagone posted:I wonder if the reviews would have been different if the Pixel C was running Chrome OS. Honestly? They'd probably be considerably worse reviews in that case.
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Dec 9, 2015 00:14
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fishmech posted:Honestly? They'd probably be considerably worse reviews in that case. Why do you say that?
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Dec 9, 2015 02:48
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teagone posted:Why do you say that? Why would you pay $500 for a device that can't run apps? (don't even get me started on the Pixel)
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Dec 9, 2015 02:57
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teagone posted:Why do you say that? ChromeOS is even less suited to the Pixel C's hardware than Android currently is. Honestly the thing should have had a touchpad if it was going to have the keyboard thing.
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Dec 9, 2015 03:06
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Rastor posted:You can now buy the Pixel C tablet on the Google store. Already did. All the complaints boil down to "whaa, whaa, Android has no tablet Apps" while mostly liking the hardware. Since I actually like the tablet Apps Android has and use them daily (as I wrote surely enough poo poo about) it sounds pretty much perfect and exactly what I want.
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Dec 9, 2015 12:43
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fishmech posted:ChromeOS is even less suited to the Pixel C's hardware than Android currently is. Honestly the thing should have had a touchpad if it was going to have the keyboard thing. Fishmech, despite his known hatred of ChromeOS, is right. While ChromeOS is touch-enabled it's not good at it and you wouldn't want a ChromeOS tablet which the Pixel C is first and foremost. Now if it could do both? Maybe, but now we're in fantasyland. Amadeo really nailed it when he said it's like the hardware and software people never talked.
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Dec 9, 2015 13:21
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I'm pretty torn. I want a N10 replacement but it annoys me that Android is such a mediocre experience on tablets. I don't care about the keyboard and as a tablet this is as good as it gets right now but it's also £400.
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Dec 9, 2015 13:39
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I really wish storage wasn't such an arbitrary driver of price points. Add 32 GB to your Nexus 6P? +$50. Add the same amount to the Pixel? +$100. Makes sense. 
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Dec 9, 2015 15:25
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Decius posted:Since I actually like the tablet Apps Android has and use them daily (as I wrote surely enough poo poo about) it sounds pretty much perfect and exactly what I want.
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Dec 9, 2015 15:35
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Tunga posted:I'm pretty torn. I want a N10 replacement but it annoys me that Android is such a mediocre experience on tablets. I don't care about the keyboard and as a tablet this is as good as it gets right now but it's also £400. Yeah, I think this is right. If you're OK with the Android tablet experience and the price doesn't put you off, the Pixel C is a fine choice.
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Dec 9, 2015 19:27
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Though some of the reviews are reporting touchscreen issues which I'm absolutely not fine with.
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Dec 9, 2015 21:56
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I'm giving up on Android tablets for the foreseeable future, my i7 Surface Pro 4 arrived today. Think about that Google, you drove me to pay Microsoft 3x more than your Pixel C and change to a larger form factor because these devices can't reach an acceptable level of function (especially when Chrome on Android can't handle browsing comparably). It's a drat shame because I have used my Nexus 9 exhaustively and this is the conclusion I've reached, it's not the janky Nexus 9 I can't deal with anymore, it's things like the aforementioned Chrome issues, I could probably give the Pixel C a chance if I thought it could at least compare for web browsing, one of the most important functions for these devices, but Chrome sucks by comparison on Android in TYOOL 2015. (Possibly worse for Firefox)
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Dec 10, 2015 04:52
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I mean, I'm typing this from a brand new Android tablet and all, but if I was going to be spending $500+ on a tablet Android would be my third choice.
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Dec 10, 2015 05:12
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I still just want a proper Nexus 7 replacement.
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Dec 10, 2015 05:19
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This $35 Fire still meeting a poo poo load of needs.
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Dec 10, 2015 06:00
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Firefox works great on both phones and tablets, it's even got full extension capability. It's totally unlike Chrome on mobile's arbitrary feature subtractions compared to desktop/laptop.
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Dec 10, 2015 15:50
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I don't like that all new Android tablets are going to 4:3. I get that it's better for webpages, but it really sucks for movies and comics. Are any major manufacturers making next gen in 16:9 still?
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Dec 10, 2015 16:47
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McLarenF1 posted:I don't like that all new Android tablets are going to 4:3. I get that it's better for webpages, but it really sucks for movies and comics. Are any major manufacturers making next gen in 16:9 still?  Tablets should be 16:9 for maximum comic bookness. The Xperia Z2 tablet is 16:9 and the Z4 is 16:10. The Fire HDX 8.9 is 16:10 Syrinxx fucked around with this message at 17:08 on Dec 10, 2015 |
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Dec 10, 2015 17:06
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McLarenF1 posted:I don't like that all new Android tablets are going to 4:3. I get that it's better for webpages, but it really sucks for movies and comics. Are any major manufacturers making next gen in 16:9 still? They never made any in 16:9. Everything was either 16:10 or 1024×600 which is approximately 17:10. Samsung just came out with a 18.4” 16:9 tablet/tv. The closest reasonably-sized option is the 10.2" 12.8:9 Pixel C. You can still find plenty of manufacturers cranking out lovely 1280×800 and 1024×600 tablets, too. Syrinxx posted:The Xperia Z2 tablet is 16:9 butt dickus fucked around with this message at 17:13 on Dec 10, 2015 |
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Dec 10, 2015 17:11
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Any one know if decent tablet mounting solutions? I'm looking for a mount for my grandmother for her bed. Not opposed to having to screw things in to secure them. I know RAM Mounts makes tablet holders and has screw in mounting bases for them. If anyone had any other suggestions I would like to know though.
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Dec 10, 2015 21:37
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I recommend a 'gooseneck' design similar to this as a starting point:
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Dec 10, 2015 21:45
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http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2015/12/the-pixel-cs-bumpy-road-from-chrome-os-concept-to-android-adoptee/ Very interesting. Some sleuthing was done against the source code and it paints the Pixel C as having a troubled design cycle. It looks like it started development as a way to launch touch Chrome OS, passed though a point where they considered creating a hybrid Chrome OS/Android device, and finally came to rest as it currently ships.
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Dec 10, 2015 21:49
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Fascinating insight into how google works - it took them a year to go from planning to building hardware, and then two months to paste Android on it. I guess you can also tell they weren't confident about a release date due to missing black Friday.
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Dec 10, 2015 22:13
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In a way, it's a testament to Android's flexibility that they were able to get shipping code on that hardware target so fast. However, it does call into question their long term commitment to this device. This hardware wasn't built to be a Android tablet for productivity. If Google intends to enhance Android for productivity with N, will they use the Pixel C as a reference hardware target for that design or will they further tweak the hardware target for such features leaving the C as a bastard child?
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Dec 10, 2015 22:35
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Whatever they do for the next one, it should throw the 4+4 core design in the trash the way phone makers already did a few years back. It's simply too complex to be reliable.
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Dec 10, 2015 22:38
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Tunga posted:I'm pretty torn. I want a N10 replacement but it annoys me that Android is such a mediocre experience on tablets. I don't care about the keyboard and as a tablet this is as good as it gets right now but it's also £400.
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Dec 11, 2015 21:50
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butt dickus posted:It's 1920×1200 which is 16:10. Comic books are 1.53:1 which makes 1.6:1 (16:10) the best choice to read them. There are still plenty of tablets sporting that ratio. gently caress 4:3 and gently caress the iPad 
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Dec 11, 2015 23:19
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Tunga posted:Found out yesterday that they didn't bother to put GPS on this thing. Makes sense since a ChromeOS device wouldn't really need it. I definitely want GPS on an Android tablet. Still not completely decided but leaning away from it right now. An exclusion like that seems pretty shortsighted even for a hypothetical ChromeOS tablet, really. It's hard to see the application on the notebook form factor, but convertible/tablet it seems straightforward.
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Dec 11, 2015 23:47
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Syrinxx posted:Comic books are 1.53:1 which makes 1.6:1 (16:10) the best choice to read them. There are still plenty of tablets sporting that ratio. Such as?
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Dec 12, 2015 01:00
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Sir Unimaginative posted:An exclusion like that seems pretty shortsighted even for a hypothetical ChromeOS tablet, really. It's hard to see the application on the notebook form factor, but convertible/tablet it seems straightforward. It honestly all makes a lot more sense having read the Ars article. While I agree that ChromeOS is not at all the finished article for a tablet I'd much rather have a Pixel C running ChromeOS with proper touch support than an Android tablet with a keyboard.
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dissss posted:Such as? The Shield tablet has a 1920x1200 screen.
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