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I booted Starbound back up after this patch and figured I'd give it a Game still bad guys, I can confirm.
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Slime posted:I booted Starbound back up after this patch and figured I'd give it a You still have to do that? Do you still need to do the stupid crystal quest to actually start flying?
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Dec 10, 2015 01:55
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Slime posted:I booted Starbound back up after this patch and figured I'd give it a Forcing you to dig to the center of the first planet with tier1 poo poo before you can actually go places is sadistic. How can they still think that's fun and good? Touch damage. Nevermind.
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Dec 10, 2015 02:12
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Apparently you can't energy dash in the air because techs will be upgradeable in the future. So of course the devs made it so you get poo poo tier tech now with no upgrades possible instead of waiting until upgrades were a thing and implementing it then.
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Dec 10, 2015 02:17
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Some games realise its more fun to give you regular stuff and upgrade it to be awesome rather than give you poo poo stuff and upgrade it to be regular. Starbound is not one of those games.
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Dec 10, 2015 02:21
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Rotten Cookies posted:Apparently you can't energy dash in the air because techs will be upgradeable in the future. That poo poo is unforgivable even for an unstable release, let alone what's meant to be a stable. gently caress, it's stupid as hell for a NIGHTLY goddamn release. Don't remove functionality you intend to replace until the replacement is at least somewhat ready. It's a thing I've seen in-development games do a few times now, it's incredibly stupid.
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Dec 10, 2015 02:44
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Davoren posted:Some games realise its more fun to give you regular stuff and upgrade it to be awesome rather than give you poo poo stuff and upgrade it to be regular. Starbound is not one of those games. I was just thinking that, so far, the best thing that Chucklefish has to their name is Risk of Rain (although they're only the publisher), and that game is indeed one of the ones you're referring to. Seriously, how often do you find upgrades while playing? I think I average about one every 4-5 minutes.
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Dec 10, 2015 03:58
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I never really got into risk of rain, Stardew valley and witchermarsh are the things im looking forward too, both only being published by funklefish
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Supernorn posted:Hey goons, stable is now out Since [some] people like my posts about design and such I figured I'd give a quick opinion on these notes: - Special abilities linked to melee/ranged weapons are a huge step towards a functional combat system that can support their Dark Souls obsession. If they're smart they could build off of this to give melee weapons defensive or mobility-based abilities to allow them to dodge attacks Ranged weapons would need to stop a reposition to avoid, which would then allow them to remove backpedal penalty in favor of mobile enemies and a speed decrease when attacking. - Dual wielding fist weapons is a pretty cool and time-tested way to differentiate knuckle weapons. - More special abilities, more telegraphing for enemies is a VERY good change that matches well with the weapon changes. -Making all monsters damage on touch is a bad thing that people have pointed out. People have also pointed out that this would be handled better with "thorny" creature variances which would add one more interesting RNG hazard to the system and preserve slow wall-crawl enemies (who would be heavily biased towards thorny parts) - Vehicles look pretty drat fun, and making them a more common/general system both solves current gripes with poo poo travel speed and open the gates to additional easy content generation and planetary hazard prep. - Colonists giving quests is a huge step towards making them actually useful. - More content is good, so long as it doesn't slow adapting to feedback and fixing glaring mechanical problems. Outside of touch damage and undocumented fuckery people are finding, this would be a very hopeful patch. With those it's still mostly a step in the right direction (after all, if they've been schizo enough to change it like three times now, theres a chance they walk it back after growing these ability systems)
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Dec 10, 2015 07:19
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Rrussom posted:I never really got into risk of rain, Stardew valley and witchermarsh are the things im looking forward too, both only being published by funklefish risk of rain had way too many issues. i liked a lot of stuff about it like the music and art, but having to jump + attack to survive as basically any melee character or else you're going to get mulched in 3 seconds was really lovely.
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Dec 10, 2015 07:22
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Bought a hover bike. It's cool but really needs to be able to fly/jump higher than it can currently. A lessened rate of descent post jump would be sweet too. Make space bar make you ascend rather than jump and release descend and we should be good. Or let a future vehicle at least.
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Dec 10, 2015 08:42
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fun bug: When you go to make the Portable Pixel Printer, make sure you only the EXACT mats on hand for it. It will eat EVERYTHING you have of those mats otherwise. 250 diamonds down the drain. atleast i made my 10 diamond drills before doing it.
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 Agent Kool-Aid posted:risk of rain had way too many issues. i liked a lot of stuff about it like the music and art, but having to jump + attack to survive as basically any melee character or else you're going to get mulched in 3 seconds was really lovely. I just didnt really like the gameplay at all, seemed like all it had too it was being in an arena were you faced against waves of enemies. Rrussom fucked around with this message at 11:39 on Dec 10, 2015 |
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Dec 10, 2015 11:31
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Rrussom posted:
Yes, that is the nature of the game.
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Rupert Buttermilk posted:Yes, that is the nature of the game. Yeah figured, Rip in piss
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Davoren posted:holy lol, hosed up if true It's the "we have more art designers than programmers on our team" problem. Rupert Buttermilk posted:I was just thinking that, so far, the best thing that Chucklefish has to their name is Risk of Rain (although they're only the publisher), and that game is indeed one of the ones you're referring to. Is that Halfway game any good? It looks kind of interesting but I decided against it when I saw who was publishing it. Same with Interstellaria or whatever it is.
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Rrussom posted:Yeah figured, Rip in piss Well, I like it because despite that being the main jist (gist?) of it, there is an ending, there is strategy, and there ARE a ton of power-ups given away often enough to keep me coming back. Sometimes I'll have a bad run, and other times, you just hit that sweet spot of playing with a clear head, not doing stupid poo poo, and getting these awesome power-up combinations that just wreck the enemy's poo poo so much.  Think of it, at that point, as 2D Serious Sam, but with really neat abilities.I'd recommend giving it another try if any of this even remotely interests you; definitely play as Commando (the first available class), and definitely use a controller, holy gently caress. How people enjoy this game with a keyboard is beyond me 
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So, update on the forums: Whoever got into one of the admin accounts loving owned the poo poo out of these guys, holy hell. Deleted the entire Social (the most active) and Admin sections of the forums, and though the crew managed to shut everything down before the cybercrimer could do anymore damage, when they rolled back the servers they noticed that their last backup was in March. For the entire forums. I hope this doesn't effect mods! What they're doing now is moving all previous threads into an archive sections and just starting everything fresh. Forums are down in the meantime. I sure picked an excellent time to have a huge problem with my mod I need to ask other modders about lmao
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LordZoric posted:Is that Halfway game any good? It looks kind of interesting but I decided against it when I saw who was publishing it. Same with Interstellaria or whatever it is. Both of those are pretty decent. Nothing amazing but then they only cost $10 or something. You realize just because it says published by Chucklefish doesn't mean CF was actually involved in any of the development (or even the publishing for that matter)?
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Babe Magnet posted:So, update on the forums: I know I already said  , but this is extremely mediocre.
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Seems to be keeping in-line with modus operandi: Great at their strength (art! publishing!) and absolutely loving terrible at everything else.
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Every sysadmin should sweat bullets if the last update is older than a week on basically anything.
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Forum hack was a false flag.
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Shoehead posted:Forum hack was a false flag. Ethics!
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Yeah, just because I'm disappointed in the combat/survival direction of the game doesn't mean literal sabotage fuckery is deserved. What the loving gently caress at the last backup being nearly a year ago though.
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SovietPotatoe posted:Both of those are pretty decent. Nothing amazing but then they only cost $10 or something. You realize just because it says published by Chucklefish doesn't mean CF was actually involved in any of the development (or even the publishing for that matter)? Oh yeah, absolutely. I'm just saying that the fact that it was published by Chucklefish was enough to make me feel really leery of it. It didn't help that the first game they published was that one Wanderlust game.
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you almost got me to instal the game again, chucklefish almost Rrussom posted:Rip in piss
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The quests to upgrade ship size being behind random quests for the main hub kinda seems wrong. I shouldn't have to bake a cake to get a longer ship. Thinking about it, ship upgrades are the best opportunity for quests that require gathering lots of resources for actually getting the upgrade 'approval' so to speak. So lots of wire, ingots and other materials like glass.
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Rrussom posted:
You sir, are the exemplar of this thread. Dandywalken posted:The quests to upgrade ship size being behind random quests for the main hub kinda seems wrong. I shouldn't have to bake a cake to get a longer ship. I actually agree with that. I usually space out while mining anyway and end up with tons of extra mats.
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So I'm looking at the files for monsters (specifically pets but I assume they're build in a similar fashion) and there's an entry literally called touchDamage. I'm pretty sure it wouldn't be too difficult to whip up a script that went through every monster file and set all of the damage values for that entry to 0.
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Babe Magnet posted:So I'm looking at the files for monsters (specifically pets but I assume they're build in a similar fashion) and there's an entry literally called touchDamage. I'm pretty sure it wouldn't be too difficult to whip up a script that went through every monster file and set all of the damage values for that entry to 0. No, DONT. that would be wrongfun!
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Babe Magnet posted:So I'm looking at the files for monsters (specifically pets but I assume they're build in a similar fashion) and there's an entry literally called touchDamage. I'm pretty sure it wouldn't be too difficult to whip up a script that went through every monster file and set all of the damage values for that entry to 0. I still think the most overpowered yet cool mod would be unlocking a weapon that's alt Fire let you copy a monster's primary attack. "Hmm, I could use the top tier rocket launcher or hammer... Or, I could copy that blood spit from a bone bird a few difficulty tiers back and kill literally everything in one second or less." EDIT: Honestly a nice balance guideline in general is "Would it completely shatter the game over your knee, if the players had access to this non boss enemy attack?" Section Z fucked around with this message at 00:20 on Dec 11, 2015 |
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Starbound really has a habit of making changes halfway. They'll nerf something fun until it's not fun anymore because a fun addition is coming like, a year later. So in the meantime you just have to slog through it. Adding upgrades to techs is fine. Downgrading the start point so upgrades have more distance to cover is questionable. But downgrading the techs before the upgrades are available is so dumb. So dumb.
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Vib Rib posted:Starbound really has a habit of making changes halfway. They'll nerf something fun until it's not fun anymore because a fun addition is coming like, a year later. So in the meantime you just have to slog through it. Adding upgrades to techs is fine. Downgrading the start point so upgrades have more distance to cover is questionable. But downgrading the techs before the upgrades are available is so dumb. I can't wait until December 2016 so I can upgrade dash tech to not be complete poo poo.
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why the gently caress would you make everything poo poo, before you're even going to attempt to overhaul it, aside from, say, doing it literally when you're patching in the upgrade system.
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Oh wait, this is starbound, everything was made poo poo from the very begining, also im expecting regular patches from this game i guess?? i guess i just got a sudden case of the downs.
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having a completely different instanced area for the boss fights is a good idea, its one of the only things i think starbound does better than Terraria.
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Vib Rib posted:Starbound really has a habit of making changes halfway. They'll nerf something fun until it's not fun anymore because a fun addition is coming like, a year later. So in the meantime you just have to slog through it. Adding upgrades to techs is fine. Downgrading the start point so upgrades have more distance to cover is questionable. But downgrading the techs before the upgrades are available is so dumb. Hey, we can use teleport at any time now to get back to the ship. I like that.
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