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Brain In A Jar posted:I think I can honestly say that as an idiot who paid full price for Wildstar at launch, it was still a better purchase than HoT turned out to be. I know this thread is big on the HoT hating right now, but worse than Wildstar? The game where your character could bug out during the stupidly long and grindy attunement chain, and the Dev's response was "sucks to be you, roll a new character".
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Pesterchum posted:Would it, though? I spent a lot of time dicking around in TG just trying to find hero points and could not handle the whole different elevations thing. I'll admit this could be a personal failing of mine It's a personal choice/perference. For me, it would, yes.
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Totbot posted:I know this thread is big on the HoT hating right now, but worse than Wildstar? Wildstar leveling experience was actually pretty fun(didn't care for raids so I never did the attunment)
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Dec 10, 2015 23:38
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It also had a bed with a video camera attached to it, so there's that.
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Dec 10, 2015 23:42
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I can't imagine what adding hearts would do to making TD easier to traverse.
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Dec 10, 2015 23:46
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Illuyankas posted:I can't imagine what adding hearts would do to making TD easier to traverse. Yeah, that's what I was thinking. I sort of have a handle on most of the zone now but hanging around teaching ogres how to raise pets better wouldn't have made it any easier. There's just too many caves and tunnels and too many elevations
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Dec 10, 2015 23:51
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Adding hearts was more about adding more fixed points for XP for Masteries.
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Illuyankas posted:I can't imagine what adding hearts would do to making TD easier to traverse. It wouldn't. Adding hearts would give some direction to progress through the zone, and would give something pve to do outside the meta event, that I could do at my own pace. It has nothing to do with the ease of traversing the zone for me.
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SAB. The perfect game mode. Scaling difficulty, great reward balance for time/effort, a fun little progression system with real metroidvania potential. RIP.
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Super Adventure Box is never coming back!
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Dec 11, 2015 00:12
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The trick to doing Tangled Depths is to not loving bother until you have Nuhoch Wallows. They make getting around between events a lot easier. Still a lovely zone though and I am really dreading have to farm it for like 3 days straight to get all my ley line sparks.
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I've been saying for years that Anet should just shut down GW2 and work on a SAB MMO.
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CLAM DOWN posted:It wouldn't. Adding hearts would give some direction to progress through the zone, and would give something pve to do outside the meta event, that I could do at my own pace. It has nothing to do with the ease of traversing the zone for me. You know, it's weird. I never really liked hearts. But god drat it, I want something I can do at my own pace in HoT once I finish the story, and if it's hearts then that's fine by me. The events just aren't fun after a couple of repeats and endless meta-event failures because I couldn't taxi into a good map, and as much as I like fractals I'm tired of the ones we have.
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CLAM DOWN posted:It wouldn't. Adding hearts would give some direction to progress through the zone, and would give something pve to do outside the meta event, that I could do at my own pace. It has nothing to do with the ease of traversing the zone for me. And then you complete the hearts and then what? you still got to go back there a dozen more times, but then you'd have nothing to do. There is a lot more to randomly find and do in tangled depths compared to the others, yeah, it's very very frustrating to travel until you personally have every cave memorized, but there are a lot of events that pop up and plenty of chests to find, I can usually grab 5 chests in 2 minutes and sometimes I get a rare reclaimed weapon worth 15g or 28 ley crystals. Ra Ra Rasputin fucked around with this message at 00:23 on Dec 11, 2015 |
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Dec 11, 2015 00:17
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Ra Ra Rasputin posted:And then you complete the hearts and then what? you still got to go back there a dozen more times, but then you'd have nothing to do. It would be more to do than there is now, and give a sense of progression that I got from the Tyria zones. And because I'm never going to be able to memorize paths or locations in TD, I'm just as likely to waste time wandering around dying and finding nothing than I am to find chests. So my personal desire is, to have something like hearts in it, which I know will never happen.
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There is always getting there after a map reset and doing the event chains from start to finish.
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CLAM DOWN posted:It would be more to do than there is now, and give a sense of progression that I got from the Tyria zones. And because I'm never going to be able to memorize paths or locations in TD, I'm just as likely to waste time wandering around dying and finding nothing than I am to find chests. So my personal desire is, to have something like hearts in it, which I know will never happen. That poo poo doesn't happen in a vacuum, there wouldn't be more to do because some of the other stuff got put aside to make hearts. Instead there'd be less to do cause hearts are not repeatable. And dumb.
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I'd be much happier with the new meta events if they would add matchmaking features other than the open world pve queue. These maps are basically raids with 60-100 man groups, except you can only get in by trawling through a queue full of random crap looking for "DS org", hoping it pops up and you can join within 5 seconds before the group fills, then screaming in frustration as you get "world is full". Just do this: everyone who joins a DS map gets placed in the instance with the highest number of people that isn't currently capped. Maybe raise the threshold for the "your map pop is low, volunteer?" button so that it pops up when your DS is at 50/150 or something. Or hell, let us look through a list of DS maps by ID, show the number of players in each, and let us join by map instead of searching for party. The point is, these new maps don't function as maps - they function as giant raids. I'd prefer if it wasn't that way, but that's how they are right now. Everything is Tequatl but without the rest of Sparkly Fen to explore. At least make them function decently as raids.
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Brain In A Jar posted:I've burnt out almost completely on the mastery xp grind. I used to love logging in and playing this game but doing the same adventures, and the same events, over and over and over with no other option for parallel pve progression has driven me to the point where I log in, open my chest, ask if anyone's doing anything fun in gchat, and when the answer is inevitably 'no', I log out again. With Dragon stand, if you joined a semi decent map it should take a hour to reach mordremoth. With the mastery exp I'm on the opposite end, I unlocked everything in HoT via popping exp boosters from wvw dailies as metas and hero trains finish up, right now I really want a repeatable track because now my exp isn't even going into spirit shards anymore, not that they were useful, but I just want a bar to slowly fill up over and over, yaknow? America Rocks posted:I'd be much happier with the new meta events if they would add matchmaking features other than the open world pve queue. These maps are basically raids with 60-100 man groups, except you can only get in by trawling through a queue full of random crap looking for "DS org", hoping it pops up and you can join within 5 seconds before the group fills, then screaming in frustration as you get "world is full". Ra Ra Rasputin fucked around with this message at 00:43 on Dec 11, 2015 |
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malhavok posted:That poo poo doesn't happen in a vacuum, there wouldn't be more to do because some of the other stuff got put aside to make hearts. Instead there'd be less to do cause hearts are not repeatable. And dumb. Less of the other stuff, and more casual pve content I can do at my own pace like for example hearts, in the HoT zones, would be awesome to me 
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malhavok posted:That poo poo doesn't happen in a vacuum, there wouldn't be more to do because some of the other stuff got put aside to make hearts. Alternately, they could've just put more content in the xpac.
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Generic Octopus posted:Alternately, they could've just put more content in the xpac. Right, because all they have to do is decide to add content and *POOF* there it is.
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ExHumus posted:Right, because all they have to do is decide to add content and *POOF* there it is. Doing more work to produce more content is akin to magic?
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Generic Octopus posted:Doing more work to produce more content is akin to magic? Only when it isn't for gem store skins.
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The main complaints I'd levy against the expansion as someone who has done everything in it.
That said, I still play it every day and make the currency numbers go up. Ra Ra Rasputin fucked around with this message at 01:26 on Dec 11, 2015 |
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Ra Ra Rasputin posted:That said, I still play it every day and make the currency numbers go up. same but down 
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Ra Ra Rasputin posted:The main complaints I'd levy against the expansion as someone who has done everything in it.
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CLAM DOWN posted:It wouldn't. Adding hearts would give some direction to progress through the zone, and would give something pve to do outside the meta event, that I could do at my own pace. It has nothing to do with the ease of traversing the zone for me. I've got no real love or hate of hearts but I agree, the meta is garbage and there's not much else to do there once you have exploration. Maybe if they added hearts but more like those adventures without the lame locking out period. Just places for interesting challenges and world building you could do once a day without hoping someone has run a chain of tedious events to unlock it, that sounds nice.
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Guild Hall's pumpkin penis is gone. Everyone get out SFD is dead now. Dead game abandon ship. You people and ANet have robbed me of all hope.
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ExHumus posted:Right, because all they have to do is decide to add content and *POOF* there it is. Could have just gave us old content and sat on the expansion for a bit. 
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Dec 11, 2015 02:53
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Lonk posted:Guild Hall's pumpkin penis is gone. Everyone get out SFD is dead now. Dead game abandon ship. You people and ANet have robbed me of all hope. We can rebuild him. We have the technology.
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[GOON] will be retaliating with a yonic masterpiece, stay tuned.
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Lonk posted:Guild Hall's pumpkin penis is gone. Everyone get out SFD is dead now. Dead game abandon ship. You people and ANet have robbed me of all hope. We hit the decoration cap and couldn't be hosed deleting 1000 chairs
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i found a Cool Trick it involves reaching 100% or more participation in a map then going afk, this will give you Periodic rewards while you are doing important things that arent video games
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Dec 11, 2015 03:54
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Reddit found the cause of HoT
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So is the Airship Essence, that costs 100 Airship Parts, bugged or is it supposed to only unlock the airship merchant tab for only one day.
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Macdeo Lurjtux posted:So is the Airship Essence, that costs 100 Airship Parts, bugged or is it supposed to only unlock the airship merchant tab for only one day. It was bugged to do this exact thing and then they supposedly fixed it, so I guess it's bugged again?
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Hearts were only added in the first place to give people used to other MMOs something familiar. The game is fine without them, as evidenced by Orr and the newer (but not bad like the expansion) areas like Silverwastes. My problem with the design of the expansion is how everything seems to be about meta events, currency, and grinding now. Exploration takes a back seat when your rewards for doing so are near non-existent compared to old zones, and the game is constantly trying to distract you from whatever you're doing so you'll participate in the big meta event of the zone. It says a lot to me about how badly designed the expansion is that the "solution" is to event grind for a while till you're at 100%+ participation and THEN you can relax and explore the zone at your leisure... just don't change maps or crash, or you get to do it all over again! I suppose this was ArenaNet's way of masking how little content the expansion really has: gate everything behind a bunch of currency and mastery grinding and hope people won't notice.
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The only meta's I like in HoT are Auric Basin and Dragon's Stand. AB because it doesn't harshly punish lack of communication (like TD does) and it's all about saving a golden city which is neat, and DS because it's a great EXP farm with a cool-looking boss fight at the end. Tangled Depths is waaaay too punishing and the scaling is hosed and Verdant Brink is a boring mess even with good commanders.
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It should be noted that gerent isn't so terrible to do now that people have started figuring out what to do and now that it gives lots of rewards even if a lane fails near the end. That said, the scaling problems making it impossible past 20 people in nuhoch and scar is dumb, so is the fact that not breaking the breakbar is a thing that makes it far easier without the boss charging across the tunnel and knocking people around.
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