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Jerry Cotton posted:Does Helsingfors even have kansallispuku? The only city in Finland, Turku, certainly doesn't. You are mistaken: 
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Rexroom posted:You are mistaken: Osta Mic Mac teknovaatteet!
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Dec 11, 2015 15:13
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Hooray. Perhaps hiking taxes would help!!!1 How do ya'll explain this? That Suomi is filthy rich, actually, this all is fake and/or tilastoharha, who cares I can still afford my Oltermanni, kill the rich, what else. In my humble opinion something is broken and it appears Finland isn't really a markkinatalous. For example when the economy in Spain started diving the result was everything being dirt cheap over there in a jiffy. Here? Nothing happens. Prkleen kartellit.
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Dec 11, 2015 15:17
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If you apply Ockham's razor the simplest explanation is that talouskasvu is small because prices are high. Prices, of course, are high because capitalists are bad people and irrational actors.
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Dec 11, 2015 15:19
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Ligur posted:Hooray. Perhaps hiking taxes would help!!!1 syyt on rakeenteellinen korruptio koko ketjun alusta loppuun saakka ja korkeat verot
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Dec 11, 2015 15:30
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So it's the capitalists jotka on säätäneet Suomen verotuksen maailman top 3:een, which makes everything expensive as hell, and they are also to blame when our tax burden grows heavier every year. Not really buying this. Altough IMO Kauppa and their cartels are part of the problem for sure. It's not in their interest to lower any prices if they don't have to and when there is little competition they don't. Hogge Wild posted:syyt on rakeenteellinen korruptio koko ketjun alusta loppuun saakka ja korkeat verot No juu. Ligur fucked around with this message at 15:35 on Dec 11, 2015 |
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Dec 11, 2015 15:32
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Ligur posted:So it's the capitalists jotka on säätäneet Suomen verotuksen maailman top 3:een, which makes everything expensive as hell, and they are also to blame when our tax burden grows heavier every year. eduskunnassa on ollut porvarienemmistö jo ties kuinka monta kymmentä vuotta, ei kaikki ole pelkästään vasemmiston syytä
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Dec 11, 2015 15:37
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Ligur posted:Hooray. Perhaps hiking taxes would help!!!1 I'd say that a big part of this problem is due to astronomical cost of housing in the Helsinki region.
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Dec 11, 2015 15:42
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SnowblindFatal posted:I'd say that a big part of this problem is due to astronomical cost of housing in the Helsinki region. Ja sehän ei tule muuttumaan kun saa enemmän voittoa rakentamalla kalliita perhe-asuntoja. I've posted about this before (IIRC I wasn't the only one with this opinion) but Finland feels so paralyzed it's friggin' depressing. Just about nothing gets done about anything, apart from some minor cuts, some minor tax hikes (which, of course, at this point have added up to devastating effect) and otherwise it's just people expressing their personal opinions about what would be good and nice. There's just this... crushing feeling of the whole kansakunta being impotent in the face of any issue. Doing thing X will always be found to be illegal or against some stiff degree or barely voted down in the city council (often for great reasons like "SDP and LA have to vote against every issue TF supports just out of principle"), and it's easier to let it rest than changing the drat regulation that stops doing thing X. Urgh. After rage-lifting tons of iron I might get drunk and then make drunk posts for certain guys to be triggered to the point of screaming about 'spergers and fetal damage.
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Dec 11, 2015 15:58
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Ligur posted:Hooray. Perhaps hiking taxes would help!!!1 Some dude commenting the article posted:Jos joku luki sitä alkuperäistä tekstiä, niin syitähän siinä mainittiin mm kulutusverotuksen kiristyminen, keskittynyt ruokakauppa ja asumiskustannusten jyrkkä nousu. Palveluitten hinnat nousseet myös, mutta selittyy paljolti noilla arvonlisäverotuksen korotuksilla. On ne vasemmistopuolueet ja ay-liike tehokkaita, vaikka porvarihallitusta on ollut porvarihallituksen perään.
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konna posted:Improving economy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsUlDkLmB84
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Ligur posted:Doing thing X will always be found to be illegal or against some stiff degree or barely voted down in the city council (often for great reasons like "SDP and LA have to vote against every issue TF supports just out of principle"), Do you have examples on what these issues are? Anyways, if an issue goes against the principles of a political party they are supposed to vote against it, that's kind of the whole point. The difficulty in getting any sweeping changes done quickly is a feature of democracy. Sucks but don't know what the alternative would be either.
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Dec 11, 2015 17:31
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Ligur posted:Ja sehän ei tule muuttumaan kun saa enemmän voittoa rakentamalla kalliita perhe-asuntoja. this is some leftist bullshit right here. Why don't you come down from lala land and get a haircut you hippy
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Dec 11, 2015 17:50
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BrienneGetsHanged posted:this is some leftist bullshit right here. Why don't you come down from lala land and get a haircut you hippy He's bald like all the boys in his club.
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Dec 11, 2015 18:00
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Oldsmobile posted:Actually it's not. Having everything bombed to poo poo boosts the economy. That's why war is good for business and why the world is hosed up. You have expressed this idea before in suomipolketju. I'm slowly starting to think that you might be serious. Antti posted:If the economy desperately needs stimulus and the government is refusing to increase spending except by repairing broken windows, then maybe a government-subsidized window manufacture and repair industry is the only politically possible way to stimulate the economy. You too. Could we at least spare the populations of Nagasaki and Dresden this time? If we have to torch down the cities to improve the economy, let's give the people a chance to get away first. We could pay the burial industry for, eh, just digging a hole and then filling it without actually putting anyone in there this time.
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Dec 11, 2015 18:07
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Simon Elo is trying to troll Li by claiming that nazis are leftists and socialists. So persut are best buddies with ardent communists?
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Dec 11, 2015 19:14
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Nenonen posted:Simon Elo is trying to troll Li by claiming that nazis are leftists and socialists. So persut are best buddies with ardent communists? natseillahan oli sosialismi ihan nimessäkin, ja natsisaksa harjoitti hyvin sosialistista talouspolitiikkaa
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That is a pretty bad troll and Elo should stop and acting foolish.
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Hogge Wild posted:natseillahan oli sosialismi ihan nimessäkin, ja natsisaksa harjoitti hyvin sosialistista talouspolitiikkaa Pohjois-Korea kutsuu itseänsä demokraattiseksi kansantasavallaksi. Makes u think.
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Hogge Wild posted:natseillahan oli sosialismi ihan nimessäkin, ja natsisaksa harjoitti hyvin sosialistista talouspolitiikkaa Therefore Seppo Lehto is a vasurisuvakki. e: I'm starting to feel that even our anarchist friends with all their amazing shenanigans cost the society less than these hilarious http://yle.fi/uutiset/poliisi_tutkii_kuka_porasi_vastaanottokeskuksen_kattoon_300_reikaa/8522070 Nenonen fucked around with this message at 19:29 on Dec 11, 2015 |
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Dec 11, 2015 19:21
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Ligur posted:That is a pretty bad troll and Elo should stop and acting foolish. Sorry, you're a kkkommunist now
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Nenonen posted:Therefore Seppo Lehto is a vasurisuvakki. se oli varmaan Oldsmobile, tuollainenhan on kuulemma hyväksi taloudelle
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Toivottavasti persut polttaa koko maaseudun, yksi vastaanottokeskus kerrallaan Pääsis siittäkin
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vuohi posted:You have expressed this idea before in suomipolketju. I'm slowly starting to think that you might be serious. Hey, it would be loving stupid stimulus, just like wiping out the country and starting from scratch would be. But it sure would mean our GDP would rise several percentage points a year! The economy is made up and none of it really matters, also if Sulphagnist fucked around with this message at 20:34 on Dec 11, 2015 |
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doverhog posted:Do you have examples on what these issues are? Anyways, if an issue goes against the principles of a political party they are supposed to vote against it, that's kind of the whole point. First one that comes to mind is Apotti -hanke. IIRC even the Left views with with a suspicion most of the time, but when the Vantaa persu city council voted against and wanted to re-evaluate the costs, it the whole left voted for it immediately. So that sounds like voting just because voting against someone on principle, not voting because of your own principle. But brah, I'm not saying it's only the left or the right doing this, what I meant is that everyone is doing is just to spite each other with little care of what follows after. quote:The difficulty in getting any sweeping changes done quickly is a feature of democracy. Sucks but don't know what the alternative would be either. Dunno. Denmark has a good track record of implementing policy changes on a pretty fast track when necessary. It feels as if (of course, this is a slighty hyperbole) Finland has not been able to do any major policy changes for 8+ years. But glad you if you believe the system works.
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Ligur posted:First one that comes to mind is Apotti -hanke. IIRC even the Left views with with a suspicion most of the time, but when the Vantaa persu city council voted against and wanted to re-evaluate the costs, it the whole left voted for it immediately. So that sounds like voting just because voting against someone on principle, not voting because of your own principle. denmark is really cool too because they elected a bunch of nazis a few years back
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Hay guyz, do u think this is racism or should we listen to the guys on the field? Also crap, I failed to get drunk so I could post horrible opinions to get Rexroom or whoever to get bent out of shape. Going to be a busy week but maybe in 8 days or so.
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Now, all you nerds stop talking about your sauna politics and angry birds economy and answer this: 1. Does anyone who have grown up without serious bouts of starvation actually like memma, or is this sweet disgusting rye paste eaten more out of tradition than culinary preference? 2. Which is the superior laatiko? Personally I have a preference for the rotabaga one. 3. What part of the country has the best/worst christmas dish? From what I have heard the savolax region is hot poo poo. 4. Why do you have tar in candyform? Just to trick Swedish liquorice lovers into poisoning themselves?
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Dec 12, 2015 00:41
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Nazi joulutorttu is the best dish. So say the Swedes.
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Zudgemud posted:1. Does anyone who have grown up without serious bouts of starvation actually like memma, or is this sweet disgusting rye paste eaten more out of tradition than culinary preference? It is good, but the stuff you get from store is usually too sweet. It's different, much less sweet, when made traditionally. quote:2. Which is the superior laatiko? Personally I have a preference for the rotabaga one. Tie between potato and carrot. A couple kilo of both is usually enough for me during Christmas. quote:3. What part of the country has the best/worst christmas dish? From what I have heard the savolax region is hot poo poo. Who cares? As long as I don't have to meet those people, it's all the same. quote:4. Why do you have tar in candyform? Just to trick Swedish liquorice lovers into poisoning themselves? They're easy to dilute into vodka.
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The essential Christmas dish is kinkku and mustard. All the rest of it is kinda superfluous. Also salmiakki is not tar. Tar candy is good too though so suck it swedes. doverhog fucked around with this message at 01:30 on Dec 12, 2015 |
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doverhog posted:The essential Christmas dish is kinkku and mustard. All the rest of it is kinda superfluous.
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BrienneGetsHanged posted:denmark is really cool too because they elected a bunch of nazis a few years back There is an actual nazi party in Denmark?
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Leverlåda is the food of the gods
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HerraS posted:Leverlåda is the food of the gods Wow, I never connected Prometheus to the dish before your post. Even more raisin not to eat it!
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Dec 12, 2015 03:52
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Ligur posted:Hay guyz, do u think this is racism or should we listen to the guys on the field? Fasistisikojen valheita
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hillo posted:Fasistisikojen valheita Kirkaise vinkuvalla äänellä "kaikki fasistit on kyttii!"
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OhYeah posted:There is an actual nazi party in Denmark? Of course not, nazism died out in 1945, and nothing similar has been spotted since.
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Speaking of fascists, our local Illinois Nazis "Suomen Vastarintaliike" declared on Thursday they're going to turn this country into a nationalist socialist country where racism and white supremacy rules, while democracy and equal rights would be a thing of the past. So all-in-all, they're pretty fascistic. Some would say that they're a bunch of Nazis. Except like DanTheFryingPan correctly stated, it died in 1945, so clearly they're mistaken. Then we have these guys:  These "Soldiers of Odin" - What's with the English name? Why a viking god? - have appeared around a week or so to "protect women from rapists" by
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Zudgemud posted:Now, all you nerds stop talking about your sauna politics and angry birds economy and answer this: 1. it's poo poo 2. they're all poo poo 3. see above 4. it's good
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