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RBA Starblade posted:Some of the animations are pretty rad too. The other day I jammed a lead pipe into someone like I was shanking them in a prison. They reused some Skyrim animations too; I plunged the chinese officer's sword straight down through a dude's throat. Please tell me there is a ridiculous dragon style deathclaw killing animation.
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Friar Zucchini posted:My issue with my .50 sniper is that its DPS is so low that I can't use it on any enemy that's worth a drat. I tried to keep it around to one-shot weak poo poo but frankly it shoots too slow even for that. Other weapons I've got do a ton more damage per shot so it's really not even that great as a sniper. There was one huge weapon mod in New Vegas that I liked a lot, hopefully there's gonna be a similar one for 4 that can address my huge pile of useless .50 ammo. I was kinda hoping the triple barrel minigun mod would have turned it into a .50, like a GAU-19 and perhaps even make it power armour only, because the minigun is absolutely garbage and the .50 hunting rifle is outdone by even a combat rifle in .308. I've installed the weapon balance mod that significantly increases the .50 hunting rifle damage, making it actually not poo poo anymore.
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SirDrone posted:Please tell me there is a ridiculous dragon style deathclaw killing animation. I haven't seen it but if there isn't then Bethesda has failed as a developer.
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Dec 11, 2015 14:10
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nosl posted:Literally. I do the same thing around those levels on Oblivion and Skyrim, too. Even Fallout 3, really, but to a lesser extent. There's just no more content, just blatant scaling. ....Why would you keep buying these games you don't like?
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Dec 11, 2015 14:24
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Zodium posted:it's because of the idiotic default minimum levels on encounter zones, start a new game with Adjusted Encounter Zones and prepare to Do the encounter zone levels never reset after a while? So if I stay away from sanctuary after the beginning and come back as god the enemies dont adjust?
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Dec 11, 2015 14:26
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:....Why would you keep buying these games you don't like? A question that will be forever asked about Bethesda games. I'm on my fourth playthrough, but this game SUCKS. 
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Dec 11, 2015 14:32
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Really I think that playing ANY videogame for 200 hours, you start to see the seams in the game. After beating the game and continuing play, it feels quite different from the first time I ventured out of Concord towards parts unknown, picking up an interesting radio signal and following it, or whatever... Once you become familiar with all the systems operating in the game, it's easy to think how this or that might be done better.
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Dec 11, 2015 14:57
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Sylink posted:Do the encounter zone levels never reset after a while? So if I stay away from sanctuary after the beginning and come back as god the enemies dont adjust? correct, zones have a set min and max level, and once you get within one non-diagonal cell of it, it is set to a value in that range for the game. even late game cells far away from sanctuary can have minimum levels as low as 6, so welp also if you just follow the main quest as you naturally encounter it without doing things inbetween, you'll set every cell's level before you are high enough level to trigger end game NPCs like annihilator sentry bots
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HJE-Cobra posted:Really I think that playing ANY videogame for 200 hours, you start to see the seams in the game. After beating the game and continuing play, it feels quite different from the first time I ventured out of Concord towards parts unknown, picking up an interesting radio signal and following it, or whatever... Sure, but there's a bunch of people who complain about the game endlessly, buy it, complain about it again, then play it to death and it's like 
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Dec 11, 2015 15:02
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poptart_fairy posted:Sure, but there's a bunch of people who complain about the game endlessly, buy it, complain about it again, then play it to death and it's like People are weird
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Dec 11, 2015 15:07
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"This video game looks like poo poo.
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Dec 11, 2015 15:08
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2house2fly posted:"This video game looks like poo poo. You complained in multiple threads about the game, even before its release, but bought the drat thing and continued to complain as if its problems were completely unforeseen dude.
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Friar Zucchini posted:Yeah, that's why I wanted to sterilize the place. But the game's going to force me to do quests to do it The Correct Way I mean, if you want the Minutemen Ending just go smoke Father. Once I found one of the terminals talking about kidnapping and torturing folks to replace with Synths, I just marched into the conference room and shot him straight in the face and then cleared the place out with an explosive minigun. It was... messy.
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Dec 11, 2015 15:16
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poptart_fairy posted:You complained in multiple threads about the game, even before its release, but bought the drat thing and continued to complain as if its problems were completely unforeseen dude. I did not like how the game looked and therefore did not buy it.
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Dec 11, 2015 15:28
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2house2fly posted:I did not like how the game looked and therefore did not buy it. This thread has ten pages of just posts by you: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3723844&userid=193299
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Dec 11, 2015 15:30
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Cojawfee posted:There is *no* indication as to what you did before being a soldier/lawyer. You could have been a scavenger, prospector, sociopath, a regular jack off, etc. lol I mean yeah, I guess you could.
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Dec 11, 2015 15:35
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:This thread has ten pages of just posts by you: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3723844&userid=193299 Including this one: 2house2fly posted:I will buy the Ultimate Edition in a year and a half, by which time there will probably be a bunch of good mods.
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Dec 11, 2015 15:43
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2house2fly posted:Including this one: Why would you buy a game you spent ten pages saying you hate? Why not just NOT buy the game? At all? No one is making you play it.
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Dec 11, 2015 15:50
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Dec 11, 2015 15:59
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:Why would you buy a game you spent ten pages saying you hate? Why not just NOT buy the game? At all? No one is making you play it. I think he's one of the bitter types that's still mad Bethesda has the IP
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Dec 11, 2015 16:05
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:Why would you buy a game you spent ten pages saying you hate? Why not just NOT buy the game? At all? No one is making you play it. I'm expecting that patches and DLC will polish up the mechanics and add more content, while mods will take care of other issues. You're right though, I suppose my weird desire to eventually get around to it is fuelled by the innate appeal of something popular and my irrational attachment to the setting based on previous games.
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2house2fly posted:I'm expecting that patches and DLC will polish up the mechanics and add more content, while mods will take care of other issues. You're right though, I suppose my weird desire to eventually get around to it is fuelled by the innate appeal of something popular and my irrational attachment to the setting based on previous games. Like if you already know you hate the game and don't want to play it waiting till the game is like 45 hours longer isn't really a great plan.
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Yeah I feel like it's a lot of content as-is. I've played over a hundred hours and still want to explore more.
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It's pretty funny Bethesda have been screwing around with level scaling variants since Oblivion and even though Fallout 4 probably has the most refined system it's still kinda 'meh'. Was it such a widespread complaint about Morrowind in the first place? I remember that getting owned by pissant ambient animals like the cliff riders was indeed annoying but you'd think you could just tune the ambient life to be less aggressive or something, or just make it low level and have it ignore high level players or something? I thought it was actually pretty fun to run into a zone that was way out of your league, kinda miss that.
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Unctuous Cretin posted:"unnng-Ashes, go Hooome! Erin misses you!" He just knows that that cat would just sit there and stare at you if given that order. Maybe the feline equivalent of a middle finger.
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emanresu tnuocca posted:It's pretty funny Bethesda have been screwing around with level scaling variants since Oblivion and even though Fallout 4 probably has the most refined system it's still kinda 'meh'. Was it such a widespread complaint about Morrowind in the first place? I remember that getting owned by pissant ambient animals like the cliff riders was indeed annoying but you'd think you could just tune the ambient life to be less aggressive or something, or just make it low level and have it ignore high level players or something? I thought it was actually pretty fun to run into a zone that was way out of your league, kinda miss that. As they made the games more open world they have to account for people getting to areas in different orders. They don't want to make a linear game where the battles are all fine tuned to a specific level. So they kinda fuzz it out into regions. North is still easier than south but they don't demand you do quest X before quest Y in an area.
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This "Inside Job" quest was hilarious. I kinda forgot about it when the Institute kicked me out, so then I happen to walk by that Brotherhood girl that wears a bare power armor frame and my dude automatically gets triggered to just ask for the drat thing. Like I'm all thinking how many speech checks am I gonna need... none. I just said the Minutemen needed it and that was it. Stupidly easy for 300+ XP. Also Liberty Prime's voice sounds hilarious. 
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I know they want you to just chill and explore on foot but a faster way of land travel might be interesting. I don't necessarily want another Highwayman, though. I'd like either a horse or a motorcycle! Y'know. And later on in the game you encounter a 50's style Greaser biker gang. Hell, give me a rideable robot motorcycle like MGSV did!
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nosl posted:This game seriously gets boring after around level 25. I'm around 36 and I can't find any fun in it anymore. Playing on survival with iron roses weapons rebalance has been alot of fun!
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Friar Zucchini posted:This "Inside Job" quest was hilarious. I kinda forgot about it when the Institute kicked me out, so then I happen to walk by that Brotherhood girl that wears a bare power armor frame and my dude automatically gets triggered to just ask for the drat thing. Like I'm all thinking how many speech checks am I gonna need... none. I just said the Minutemen needed it and that was it. Stupidly easy for 300+ XP. Oh, I just realized that the reason that weird quest exists but seems weird and useless is so 4 games from now when they have synths again and everyone says how lore breaking that is that they can point to the fact you copied the data then gave it to someone and then it disappeared from the story entirely from that point on.
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:Oh, I just realized that the reason that weird quest exists but seems weird and useless is so 4 games from now when they have synths again and everyone says how lore breaking that is that they can point to the fact you copied the data then gave it to someone and then it disappeared from the story entirely from that point on. Also, why does the strongest power armor have to be ugly as gently caress? And I don't want my top-level combat armor to be loving white of all things, either, like at least have it be a more subtle color, drat. Or better, let me pick the color.
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Friar Zucchini posted:Maybe they'd wanted the Minutemen to be more of a viable option and they had to clean up at the last minute so that was just a loose end from a rushed development? Nah, every single faction has that "copy the database" quest and in every faction it's just a thing that happens and never is mentioned again. Also like you were saying it seems like a quest that goes out of it's way to make sure you complete it. It seemed weird but it totally does make sense now as a "they downloaded data's brain into b4" out incase they want to use stuff again.
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I like that the drug dealers trying to get caps out of the diner-vendor become permanent objects when killed that regenerate their equipment every couple of days just like buildings. Are there any other named npc's like that I can routinely loot high level stuff from or did I just get glitched bodies?
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emanresu tnuocca posted:It's pretty funny Bethesda have been screwing around with level scaling variants since Oblivion and even though Fallout 4 probably has the most refined system it's still kinda 'meh'. Was it such a widespread complaint about Morrowind in the first place? I remember that getting owned by pissant ambient animals like the cliff riders was indeed annoying but you'd think you could just tune the ambient life to be less aggressive or something, or just make it low level and have it ignore high level players or something? I thought it was actually pretty fun to run into a zone that was way out of your league, kinda miss that. There's level scaling in Morrowind too, there's just a lot less stuff to kill. Though a lot of the interior cells were completely static with fixed npcs, which also had a downside as after you cleared them there really wasn't ever a reason to go back. In Morrowind each "region" basically had a leveled list of enemies/random loot within a fixed range, so areas around Seyda Neen were fixed to levels 1-4 but by the time you were around say, the center of Vvardenfell it would be 15-20 for random spawns and loot. It's not too different from Fallout 4s system, though FO4 is a lot more robust and can "lock" leveled lists at different points depending when you discover them. Edit: Correction, areas had leveled lists for random spawns but containers themselves had assigned randomized leveled loot.
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Speedball posted:I know they want you to just chill and explore on foot but a faster way of land travel might be interesting. I don't necessarily want another Highwayman, though. I'd like either a horse or a motorcycle! Y'know. And later on in the game you encounter a 50's style Greaser biker gang. Rank 4 Wasteland Whisperer: You can now ride your creatures
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Friar Zucchini posted:My issue with my .50 sniper is that its DPS is so low that I can't use it on any enemy that's worth a drat. I tried to keep it around to one-shot weak poo poo but frankly it shoots too slow even for that. Other weapons I've got do a ton more damage per shot so it's really not even that great as a sniper. There was one huge weapon mod in New Vegas that I liked a lot, hopefully there's gonna be a similar one for 4 that can address my huge pile of useless .50 ammo. Any ranks in rifleman? My .50 does over 100 dmg without the stealth multiplier
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:Like if you already know you hate the game and don't want to play it waiting till the game is like 45 hours longer isn't really a great plan. Indeed. However, I'm expecting that patches and DLC will polish up the mechanics, while mods will take care of other issues.
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E-Tank posted:Yeah and that's the issue. I don't love my gun. My gun isn't special. My gun is just like every other loving gun out there, and I can make every other gun just like it. Where are the unique weapons that can't be touched because they're flawed, but beautiful beyond/because of that? You're right about the guns feeling the same, my favorite weapon was the winchester-style repeater rifle from one of the DLCs, it used ammo I had too much of, and was different from the way other guns felt. Internet Kraken posted:You keep pointing to that gun like every unique in New Vegas was like it but I'm pretty sure most of them were just "does more damage", possibly with a fancier model. Same applies to Fallout 3. It's pretty much the exact opposite of unique. Sindai posted:I just noticed that being naked makes it easier to sneak up on people than wearing only muffled light leather armor. That seems wrong.
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Azhais posted:Rank 4 Wasteland Whisperer: You can now ride your creatures gently caress YEAH. Let me be a Deathclaw Rider! Or at least a Radstag Rider.
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2house2fly posted:Indeed. However, I'm expecting that patches and DLC will polish up the mechanics, while mods will take care of other issues. you're going to have to wait for various half-baked script-extender overhauls that run the game into a memory singularity until the SPERG guy decides to do FPERG
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