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Has anyone read Citizen Jack? The second issue just came out but I've only read the first - it's pretty crazy. A disgraced former mayor (who would fit in Southern Bastards easily) decides to run for President because a demon convinces him to. Definitely going on my pull list.
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Read the first issue of Citizen Jack and decided not to continue with it. The characters felt pretty one-dimensional and there was nothing terribly redeeming about the main dude. That may change in future issues, but it's hard to see it being anything more than, "watch this crazy dimwit get by with one deus ex machina after another."
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Dec 6, 2015 07:10
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Invincible can get as stupid as it wants just as long as Ryan Ottley keeps delivering on the art carnage.
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Dec 6, 2015 20:31
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Invincible's been pretty bad for a while but I have to say I am enjoying the new arc; I love Edge of Tomorrow-type stories (even though this isn't really an endless loop like EoT).
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Dec 7, 2015 07:06
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Monstress, Trees and We Stand on Guard today. Monstress is more building up, also kitty! Trees continues with the NY plot (I'm still holding on to some deluded hope that some of the chinese protags survived.  ) And We Stand On Guard concludes with a bang. I find it fascinating because while it's presented as a sci-fi story it's really about 'terrorism' and how a person gets radicalized.
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Dec 9, 2015 22:11
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Now that We Stand On Guard has supposedly finished its run, I'm pretty underwhelmed with it as a whole. Skroce's art never did much for me as it never ever communicated movement very well and felt very static, and the lack of real world-building or fleshing-out of characters coupled with the constant in-your-face shock-value events just made the whole thing feel very shallow. It all begged for a longer, greater build-up to its conclusion. As it is, we never get time to get attached to any of the characters, even the main one, nor do we get any time to sympathize with the Canadians or the Americans. Vaughn was asking us to believe in this world he created without giving us anything to really latch onto.
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Dec 9, 2015 23:37
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I agree with you on the art, but I think you read it expecting something very different. I looked at it kind of like a parable. It is the story of how you can not win a war with just tanks and explosions as a nation isn't just arbitrary boarders, it is people. You will radicalise those people to fight back. So yeah it is light on world building but it isn't about the world it is about every character has simple, logical motivation and all the motivation leads to is more death. Overall I was kind of disappointed with it too, I got what it was going for but I don't think it succeeded on a strictly surface level. It needed to spend less time on the action and more time on characters motivation to really hit the point home. I just realized we have been arguing the same thing with different solutions.
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Dec 10, 2015 17:13
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Ha, you're absolutely right.  Part of what would have helped is if we got to see the rest of the people the Two-Four were supposedly fighting for for more than the one brief moment in the last issue ( the regular citizens, not the ones in the detention camp ). We certainly don't get to see their reaction, so we have no idea how the violence enacted by the Two-Four and the Americans against each other impacts either nation. Certainly, the main character and the rest of the Two-Four become radicalized, but the fact that they're Canadian and French-Canadian being oppressed by the U.S. doesn't actually matter because we never really see how the rest of the people of either country feel about... anything. So it ends up being an isolated case of violence that serves no purpose and could be copy+pasted into just about any other setting and have the same impact, which just seems like bad writing.
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Dec 10, 2015 17:27
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AV Club did it's best of the year list and they're mostly indies naturally. Are all these worth reading, I hadn't heard of a surprising number of them.
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Dec 10, 2015 17:29
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zoux posted:AV Club did it's best of the year list and they're mostly indies naturally. Are all these worth reading, I hadn't heard of a surprising number of them. i can vouch for Autumnlands (don't know if it's #1 good, but it's very good), Southern Bastards, the Fade Out (probably my pick for #1), Island, Hellboy in Hell, and i only read the first issue of Bitch Planet but it was pretty good. one i'd like to see get more love is We Can Never Go Home from Black Mask, really great mix of crime comic, superhero, and teen romance that just wrapped up its first mini. probably my #2 comic of the year.
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Dec 10, 2015 17:55
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What's the hook for Fade Out beyond "Bru/Phillips noir"?
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Dec 10, 2015 18:16
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What more hook do you need?
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Dec 10, 2015 18:22
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zoux posted:What's the hook for Fade Out beyond "Bru/Phillips noir"? I mean, do you really need more? Sorta like the first season of True Detective, but postwar Hollywood, and instead of detectives you have drunk screenwriters.
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Dec 10, 2015 18:22
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zoux posted:What's the hook for Fade Out beyond "Bru/Phillips noir"? it's specifically Bru and Phillips giving their take on James Ellroy, plus the columns on old hollywood scandals in the backpages are awesome.
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Dec 10, 2015 18:23
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Endless Mike posted:What more hook do you need? You know, some Lovecraftian mythology or something. I was just curious if it was something beyond the standard fantastic noir detective story the pair usually does.
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Dec 10, 2015 18:37
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zoux posted:You know, some Lovecraftian mythology or something. No lovecrafty stuff yet, but kiddly-diddling cults look like a distinct possibility. IIRC Bru hinted that the story is something they've been wanting to do for a very long time and that it's big, so who knows where it's going to go. They've got that sweet contract gig over at Image, so it could run for 50 issues if they have that much story.
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Dec 10, 2015 19:59
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pugnax posted:No lovecrafty stuff yet, but kiddly-diddling cults look like a distinct possibility. IIRC Bru hinted that the story is something they've been wanting to do for a very long time and that it's big, so who knows where it's going to go. They've got that sweet contract gig over at Image, so it could run for 50 issues if they have that much story. actually the next issue is gonna be the last one
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pugnax posted:No lovecrafty stuff yet, but kiddly-diddling cults look like a distinct possibility. IIRC Bru hinted that the story is something they've been wanting to do for a very long time and that it's big, so who knows where it's going to go. They've got that sweet contract gig over at Image, so it could run for 50 issues if they have that much story. So...they're not going to continue Criminal or Incognito is what you're saying. Edit: Nevermind then!
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GrandpaPants posted:So...they're not going to continue Criminal or Incognito is what you're saying. they did a Criminal one-shot earlier this year that was one of the best issues ever.
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Dec 10, 2015 20:03
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The Brubaker/Phillips stuff I've read is just Sleeper and Fatale, but Fatale is one of the best things I've ever read, so their collabs are on my "must buy when on sale" list.
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Dec 10, 2015 20:05
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:actually the next issue is gonna be the last one Well, gently caress.
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Dec 10, 2015 20:09
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That list is invalid because there's no Valiant. Mostly everything that company has done this year has been gold. Come sing its praises with me in its dedicated thread.
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Dec 11, 2015 03:25
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If you liked LA Confidential or LA Noire, Fade Out is for you.
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Dec 11, 2015 03:41
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Rusty Kettle posted:That list is invalid because there's no Valiant. Mostly everything that company has done this year has been gold. Come sing its praises with me in its dedicated thread. I read Valiant books, Ivar and Imperium are standouts. Is Valiant considered indie?
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Not really, I mean it is technically, but most people use indie as a catchall for creator owned these days. Valiant is not creator owned.
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I just finished reading all of The Private Eye, and was disappointed not to see it on there. But it finished back in March so it's been a while.
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X-O posted:Not really, I mean it is technically, but most people use indie as a catchall for creator owned these days. Valiant is not creator owned. Yea. This thread most likely wasn't the best place to post my knee-jerk reaction to that list. Still, an end of the year best-of list without Imperium is a travesty.
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Cyphoderus posted:I had Invincible on my sights because I like the premise and apparently it starts out really strong (I've heard that's his deal – starting a comic out strong, then dragging it out for 100+ issues). Should I not even bother? How long does it stay good for? Definitely, it's my favorite comic out of any mentioned in this thread. I'd say it gets better and better largely. And like anything I'd say draw your own conclusions, it's all personal taste. You see people asking about comics in topics like this, and often being dismayed because four people don't like something. It's kind of a roll of the dice whether a particular thread on a particular corner of the internet is positive or negative on something. While I'm in here, Savage Dragon is brilliant. 207 and 208 in particular just wrapped up one of the most compelling stories that was going on for a good fifteen years or something like that.
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Heavy Metal posted:Definitely, it's my favorite comic out of any mentioned in this thread. I'd say it gets better and better largely. And like anything I'd say draw your own conclusions, it's all personal taste. That's some dedication. Is Savage Dragon worth reading all the way through?
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lifg posted:That's some dedication. Is Savage Dragon worth reading all the way through? For sure, it's all written and drawn by one guy, and he's always exploring new ways to keep it fresh. The early stuff holds up really well too, I read it for the first time in the mid-2000s anyway. There might be a cameo here and there from a WildCAT etc, but the book never relies on crossovers or anything. Well there was one Spawn crossover, you can skip the Spawn issue though. Heavy Metal fucked around with this message at 19:28 on Dec 11, 2015 |
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I've never heard of Autumnlands but it's first on the AV list. Anyone reading can give impressions? So far from what I've googled it looks fairly interesting but not a whole lot reviews out there.
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Autumnlands is what Hinterkind wishes it was. Animal races, magic gone wrong, a barbarian human unleashed... I like it all except the human, really. Excellent artwork. AV went a bit far to rank it #1, but it's a strong series. Monstress #2 already cements Monstress as better, in my opinion.
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I have no idea where Monstress is going but gently caress it Sana Takeda is drawing bayonettas this is so great.
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Red Mundus posted:I've never heard of Autumnlands but it's first on the AV list. Anyone reading can give impressions? So far from what I've googled it looks fairly interesting but not a whole lot reviews out there. I really enjoy it, it's totally loving awesome. I posted about it a while back: Sigma-X posted:Is nobody else reading Autumnlands?
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yeah your post was actually what led me to check the book out.
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Autumnlands looks dope; I'll get the trade next time I'm at my LCS. I just read the first volume of They're Not Like Us and it was okay. Felt like X-Men without the decades of backstory and like-able characters.
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Yeah, definitely think I'll check out Autumnlands, too. It reminds me a bit of the concept of The Magic Goes Away by Larry Niven, which was always one of my favorite fantasy world settings.
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The thought of next issue being the last issue of Phonogram ever has hosed me up a whole lot.
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ElNarez posted:The thought of next issue being the last issue of Phonogram ever has hosed me up a whole lot. I'm also super sad about it but I feel like they're putting the series to bed at the perfect time. And W+D is still doing the Music is Magic stuff too (although it's not quite the same).
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I just purchased the Space Riders trade from my comic shop on a lark and what the gently caress man, what a weird, cool comic.
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