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sub supau
Aug 28, 2007

Captain Invictus posted:

this is mine

Reddit posted:

So I'm listening to the Giant Bombcast, the podcast of the Giant Bomb, and I haven't dropped them off my media radar because although they're clearly anti-GG, they're usually very quiet about it on the podcast.

But oh lord, not the December 1st episode!

They feign confusion at first as to why this is such a big deal and how no one cares about DoAX because the previous game was 'just awful', and then they begin to regurgitate the same argument without citation about how the previous game sold "so poorly". Then the doublethink goes off the loving charts when they begin discussing how "no one was trying to block this" and "this is just a narrative by people with persecution complexes".

But they can't stop there! For initially pretending to be disinterested in the subject, they continue to prattle on for fifteen loving minutes (starts at 1:45:00ish); downplaying the franchise as unnecessary and that "there's much worse games on J-list for people who want this", equating people who enjoy the DoAX games to perverts.

Then, despite conceding that DoAX is perhaps the only volleyball game franchise that currently exists, tossing around the term 'creepy anime girls', and saying that "gamers should demand better", this steaming load of hypocrisy is disgorged from Jeff Gerstmann's mouth:
"Look at the DoA 5 costume DLC sometime. They launched that game with two $100 packages of DLC. They keep adding more. They've added so many costumes to that game. Because people like to play dress-up with their funny polygonal little dolls! ... It's a shame, because I think that's a pretty decent fighting game. ... Yet it's like, they're focusing on all this other bullshit, when they should be focusing on making their fighting game an even better fighting game. That's the part where I get pissed."
Which is it Jeff, is there no market for playing dress-up with 'creepy anime girls'? Or is there such a big market that it's the best selling component of DOA 5?

You're pissed because DOA5 should focus more on fighting rather than costumes? Well maybe if there was a game where people could just dress up the DOA characters, you could have your fighting game and they could have their dress up game.
I wonder if they would ever consider releasing such a title in the west, considering "many issues happening in video game industry with regard to how to treat female in video game industry".
Giant Bomb's position is clear. They consider DOAX3 to be pornography, and bad pornography at that; and if people want good pornography, it's all across the internet, "there's no reason for this game".

What those chucklefucks don't want to admit is that there isn't a market of softcore titillation titles in the west, certainly not any you can buy on console or find on store shelves. And any time anything even gently approaches that category, like DOAX, or cat girl visual novels, the games press universally criticizes the game for being soft porn. You cannot say that no one was against this release when there is unflinching evidence, including goddamn videos of widely known gaming personalities, celebrating that this title won't get a western release.
They're loving liars and they're loving hypocrites.

Un-loving-subbed.

I want to resubscribe to the Bombcast feed again just to spite that guy.

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ONE YEAR LATER
Apr 13, 2004

Fry old buddy, it's me, Bender!
Oven Wrangler
Mods change my name to Un-loving-subbed please .

fatherboxx
Mar 25, 2013


I want to know what dark magicks or deals with infernal beings Jeff has used to be able to annoy idiots so hard with that little effort for 15 years

Bug Squash
Mar 18, 2009

What was wrong with the Securiton vault elevator? Is this some kind of precursor to the Iron Keep Bridge where a 5 second break of immersion in a hundred hour game causes a segment of society to have a loving breakdown?

Dr. Stab
Sep 12, 2010
👨🏻‍⚕️🩺🔪🙀😱🙀
At first I thought it was going to be about the shenmue thing. This is way more hilarious.

What exactly do they propose is going on? The feminist cabal has infiltrated tecmo and is using their power to forcibly block them from engaging in a profitable venture?

HMS Boromir
Jul 16, 2011

by Lowtax

Bug Squash posted:

What was wrong with the Securiton vault elevator? Is this some kind of precursor to the Iron Keep Bridge where a 5 second break of immersion in a hundred hour game causes a segment of society to have a loving breakdown?

:thejoke:

al-azad
May 28, 2009



Dr. Stab posted:

At first I thought it was going to be about the shenmue thing. This is way more hilarious.

What exactly do they propose is going on? The feminist cabal has infiltrated tecmo and is using their power to forcibly block them from engaging in a profitable venture?

What was the Shenmue thing? Just Jeff hating on it?

To enjoy Giant Bomb you just have to learn to replace everything Jeff says with "THIS IS BULLSHIT" and "WHOOO-CARES"

Baku
Aug 20, 2005

by Fluffdaddy

Dr. Stab posted:

What exactly do they propose is going on? The feminist cabal has infiltrated tecmo and is using their power to forcibly block them from engaging in a profitable venture?

the guy brought up gamergate, which was founded on the conspiratorial fear that developers, journalists, podcasters, critics, and anyone who disagreed with them about what games were or should be were members of an insidious cabal

anything is possible

al-azad
May 28, 2009



So a Tecmo employee who manages the company Facebook replied to a question regarding the new DoAX with "Do you know many issues happening in video game industry with regard to how to treat female in video game industry? We do not want to talk those things here. But certainly we have gone through in last year or two to come to our decision. Thank you." So angry nerds everywhere, likely 99% of whom have never played nor will ever play any game in the series, pointed a finger at the Feminist Menace for bullying a poor million dollar company into not releasing the next in their poorly selling, poorly received, entirely niche Ecchi Dating Simulator (featuring volleyball mini game).

Baku
Aug 20, 2005

by Fluffdaddy

al-azad posted:

So a Tecmo employee who manages the company Facebook replied to a question regarding the new DoAX with "Do you know many issues happening in video game industry with regard to how to treat female in video game industry? We do not want to talk those things here. But certainly we have gone through in last year or two to come to our decision. Thank you." So angry nerds everywhere, likely 99% of whom have never played nor will ever play any game in the series, pointed a finger at the Feminist Menace for bullying a poor million dollar company into not releasing the next in their poorly selling, poorly received, entirely niche Ecchi Dating Simulator (featuring volleyball mini game).

look whatever me telling people what i think about their product is infringing on their freedom of speech

Dr. Stab
Sep 12, 2010
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al-azad posted:

What was the Shenmue thing? Just Jeff hating on it?

To enjoy Giant Bomb you just have to learn to replace everything Jeff says with "THIS IS BULLSHIT" and "WHOOO-CARES"

They got an email about how the shenmue community really hates jeff, and then they started joking about the concept of "the shenmue community." It was less "shenmue is dumb" and more "people who like shenmue are dumb."

Tae
Oct 24, 2010

Hello? Can you hear me? ...Perhaps if I shout? AAAAAAAAAH!
Giant Bomb East is very enjoyable, and their crossover podcast this week was also very enjoyable.

FractalSandwich
Apr 25, 2010

Captain Invictus posted:

Reddit posted:

So I'm listening to the Giant Bombcast, the podcast of the Giant Bomb, and I haven't dropped them off my media radar because although they're clearly anti-GG, they're usually very quiet about it on the podcast.
At first I misread this as him saying that the only reason he keeps listening is because they're not gamergators, but he's disappointed that they aren't more vocal about it. Too optimistic.

bobservo
Jul 24, 2003

All Fallouts are good in the eyes of The Lord :angel:

al-azad
May 28, 2009



bobservo posted:

All Fallouts are good in the eyes of The Lord :angel:

Except the console Brotherhood of Steel, that is not only a bad Fallout game but a bad Snowblind Engine game.

icantfindaname
Jul 1, 2008


bobservo posted:

All Fallouts are good in the eyes of The Lord :angel:

the lord of bad video games maybe

Bug Squash
Mar 18, 2009


:saddowns:

That's actually pretty funny.

Anyhoo, need to write up my 1000 word treatise on why this thing Kole loves is trash.

SoulChicken
Sep 19, 2003

mek it fuhnki
Is the duckfeed tv charity stream archived anywhere? I just saw Gary and Kole for the first time while looking for it. Cool dudes!

Song For The Deaf
Aug 10, 2006

I HAVE TO USE MY SOUND SWORD NOW.
The whole thing is saved as highlights on the Twitch channel at twitch.tv/duckfeedtv. I'm trying to get them onto YouTube, but the exporter is not cooperating.

Ulta
Oct 3, 2006

Snail on my head ready to go.

Tae posted:

Giant Bomb East is very enjoyable, and their crossover podcast this week was also very enjoyable.

Austin Walker is my favorite new podcasting personality of 2015 (yes I know he has been podcasting for several years prior, but that was an actual play podcast). He's the anti Dan Rykert, but not in a hostile or canceling way, more of a ying and yang thing.

Lone Goat
Apr 16, 2003

When life gives you lemons, suplex those lemons.




Is Idle Weekend not going to happen or did the Thumbs just stop announcing it until it actually starts?

Pasco
Oct 2, 2010

Ulta posted:

Austin Walker is my favorite new podcasting personality of 2015 (yes I know he has been podcasting for several years prior, but that was an actual play podcast). He's the anti Dan Rykert, but not in a hostile or canceling way, more of a ying and yang thing.

Yeah, Austin is my favourite thing to happen in 2015.

Lone Goat posted:

Is Idle Weekend not going to happen or did the Thumbs just stop announcing it until it actually starts?

Well, it's got a Twitter account and everything, so apparently Soon (Maybe).

Baku
Aug 20, 2005

by Fluffdaddy

Bug Squash posted:

Anyhoo, need to write up my 1000 word treatise on why this thing Kole loves is trash.

It's funner to do to Gary.

Woffle
Jul 23, 2007

Zombies' Downfall posted:

It's funner to do to Gary.

This is not true. I mean, when you're infamous internet troll Zombies' Downfall, sure. But for regulars? Naw.

Song For The Deaf
Aug 10, 2006

I HAVE TO USE MY SOUND SWORD NOW.
C'mon, there are plenty of 1,000 word essays to go around. We're wrong enough for everyone to grab a slice.

bobservo
Jul 24, 2003

Danielle Riendeau guests on this week's Super Mario 64 episode of Retronauts—the topic was her idea!

http://www.usgamer.net/articles/retronauts-takes-to-the-skies-with-super-mario-64

Phone
Jul 30, 2005

親子丼をほしい。
But I thought Danielle moved to NY and was going to do Idle Weekend? What is going on?

HOW FAR DOWN DOES THIS VIDEO GAME JOURNALISM podcasting RABBIT HOLE GO!?

(i'm really excited to listen to this tomorrow since sm64 is rad)

bobservo
Jul 24, 2003

Phone posted:

But I thought Danielle moved to NY and was going to do Idle Weekend? What is going on?

HOW FAR DOWN DOES THIS VIDEO GAME JOURNALISM podcasting RABBIT HOLE GO!?

(i'm really excited to listen to this tomorrow since sm64 is rad)

(We recorded this episode on August 30th.)

Chris Remo
Sep 11, 2005

Lone Goat posted:

Is Idle Weekend not going to happen or did the Thumbs just stop announcing it until it actually starts?

I promise it is still coming!! A bunch of life events and logistical issues have pushed it back it longer than we were expecting. But Danielle and Rob have done a couple test episodes and they can't wait to get it going. It should be really soon!

FractalSandwich
Apr 25, 2010
Paging Zack to the Unity 5.3 release notes.

Lone Goat
Apr 16, 2003

When life gives you lemons, suplex those lemons.




Chris Remo posted:

I promise it is still coming!! A bunch of life events and logistical issues have pushed it back it longer than we were expecting. But Danielle and Rob have done a couple test episodes and they can't wait to get it going. It should be really soon!

Ok cool, just making sure. I was a little worried that it was cancelled and you stopped mentioning it and were hoping for it to get swept under the rug but this is a relief.

Can't wait!

claw game handjob
Mar 27, 2007

pinch pinch scrape pinch
ow ow fuck it's caught
i'm bleeding
JESUS TURN IT OFF
WHY ARE YOU STILL SMILING
I'm sorry, Bob. It's me. I'll go to bat for Croc: Legend of the Gobbos.

Mostly for its sequel.

PaletteSwappedNinja
Jun 3, 2008

One Nation, Under God.
That Argonaut guy is deluded if he thinks Nintendo "stole" the idea to make a 3D game with their most popular IP from him, as if it wasn't axiomatic.

I recently read some stuff from Koji Kondo about SM64's sound design that I thought was interesting; one of the big reasons Mario vocalises all his movements was because traditional "game-like" sound design tricks Kondo had used for 2D games were at odds with the relatively "realistic" free-roaming 3D environment, so rather than trying to conceptualise and create a sound that embodied "jumping, but in 3D!", for example, they just had Mario grunt something as he jumped and thud as he landed, and it was fine.

claw game handjob
Mar 27, 2007

pinch pinch scrape pinch
ow ow fuck it's caught
i'm bleeding
JESUS TURN IT OFF
WHY ARE YOU STILL SMILING

PaletteSwappedNinja posted:

That Argonaut guy is deluded if he thinks Nintendo "stole" the idea to make a 3D game with their most popular IP from him, as if it wasn't axiomatic.

Oh, no, he sounds like a nutter, but I just meant the game. (Also, from memory: Croc 1 had no hub world, Croc 2 did. I only just finished the episode and don't wanna edit it back in now.)

Croc and Earthworm Jim 3D were my introduction to 3D platformers as a dude who had a PC growing up, and let me tell you: the former isn't amazing (its best moments were in the sequel), but holds up a shitload better than the latter, tank controls and all.

Jippa
Feb 13, 2009
Just listening too idle thumbs. I remember watching some thing about the guy nick is apparently related too.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sawney_Bean

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8akjkzmgz0Q

Phone
Jul 30, 2005

親子丼をほしい。
Wow, that reader mail on IT this week mirrored my experience fairly well. I put more than a few hours into the MotoGP demo and actually got decently quick around Mugello... But I was completely caught off guard by the PGR2 mention.

I played my fair share of stuff like Cat & Mouse, but the real game to me was putting in literally thousands of in-game miles on the slowest car in the game: the Mini Cooper S. All of the cars in your stable have an odometer, and the Mini Cooper S definitely had somewhere in the 5 to 6k miles on it. A 3 lap race around Edinburgh might be 4.5ish miles. Yeah.

However, it wasn't just me being a weird teenager; I primarily did this because I found a reliable lobby of British folks that liked to do slow races, so it was a full lobby of 8 people all driving the slowest car in the game. On weekends there used to be a Japanese lobby of 4 or 5 guys that would only race New Beetle RSi's.

Ironically, this was kind of formative for me considering that I race cars now and my car of choice is extremely slow in a straight line. With the Mini Cooper races, if you didn't preserve your momentum and nail all of the corners just right while making sure that you didn't cause, or was a part of, a wreck, there was no way for you to make up the time on the straights. It was punishing; get it right or else you're going to be waiting for a while.

This applies to driving Miatas on track and learning how to actually race cars; if you screw up a corner or a series of turns, it's going to be extremely obvious on the next straight because you're not going nearly as fast as you know you can be going. On the other side, if I'm driving a Miata and I sneak up on a BMW M3 or Corvette, it definitely wasn't because I was faster in the straights and you'd be surprised at how many people don't want to let such a "slow" car like the Miata by.

That's my cool Project Gotham Racing 2 story.

Phone fucked around with this message at 15:50 on Dec 11, 2015

claw game handjob
Mar 27, 2007

pinch pinch scrape pinch
ow ow fuck it's caught
i'm bleeding
JESUS TURN IT OFF
WHY ARE YOU STILL SMILING
Idle Weekend is live.

I did not know it was going to veer into some pop culture talk too and I'm now even more curious how this show came out, but I am too dead tired to put this on right now. Please don't suck for the sake of 10-hours-hence me, Rob and Danielle.

NmareBfly
Jul 16, 2004

I posted my food for USPOL Thanksgiving!


END ME SCOOB posted:

Idle Weekend is live.

I did not know it was going to veer into some pop culture talk too and I'm now even more curious how this show came out, but I am too dead tired to put this on right now. Please don't suck for the sake of 10-hours-hence me, Rob and Danielle.

I'm not sure if you got the right link there but what you actually linked is pretty amazing so it's hard to complain.

Jippa
Feb 13, 2009

END ME SCOOB posted:

Idle Weekend is live.

I did not know it was going to veer into some pop culture talk too and I'm now even more curious how this show came out, but I am too dead tired to put this on right now. Please don't suck for the sake of 10-hours-hence me, Rob and Danielle.


:xd: That link.

:slick: :slick: :slick: :slick:


Thanks for the heads up though I'll check it out next week.

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Shart Carbuncle
Aug 4, 2004

Star Trek:
The Motion Picture
Haha, that was in an abject suffering recently, wasn't it?

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