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BlackMK4 posted:Haha, seriously, this is a really bad idea. The KTM? Probably. Also, they want 7k flat for it, apparently it's the dealership ~owner's bike~. It's tempting but I dunno. Might just go with the sensible choice: the CRF. Even if it has no power and weighs like 60lbs more than the KTM. Although, I did take it off pavement and that weak power was definitely more than enough to get the wheel spinning easily. e: and all the money I save on the Honda can be spent on better gear. Tactical Lesbian fucked around with this message at 18:04 on Dec 9, 2015 |
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Tactical Lesbian posted:The KTM? Probably. Also, they want 7k flat for it, apparently it's the dealership ~owner's bike~. It's tempting but I dunno. Might just go with the sensible choice: the CRF. Even if it has no power and weighs like 60lbs more than the KTM. No, definiely. That KTM is a monster, and a mountain of a motorcycle. The difference between a CRF250L and a KTM 530 is like a Ninja 500 to a ZX10R
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Option 1) Please do not buy a 500XCW as your first dirt bike. Option 2) Please buy it and put up the gopro of your inevitable death.
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Understood, CRF250L it is. Thanks dudes!
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crf250l is pretty great imo def needs new gears from the factory but otherwise a pretty great machine
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clutchpuck posted:in its natural habitat If your country didn't have that weird Brokeback Mountain "I am a rugged masculine manly man and therefore need a pickup truck" thing going on you'd be able to pick these things up for about the price of a new set of tyres:  Room for a bike or two, all your tools, couple of sleeping bags, and all the bottles of cider and jazz mags a man could ever need.
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It's not our fault. The reason the USA doesn't have light trucks is because you guys (I am assuming you're in Europe) put a trade tariff on chickens back in the 1960s. Obviously. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicken_tax
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goddamnedtwisto posted:If your country didn't have that weird Brokeback Mountain "I am a rugged masculine manly man and therefore need a pickup truck" thing going on you'd be able to pick these things up for about the price of a new set of tyres:   http://imgur.com/a/j0eMh Bike for scale  http://imgur.com/a/1NRza
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Sagebrush posted:It's not our fault. The reason the USA doesn't have light trucks is because you guys (I am assuming you're in Europe) put a trade tariff on chickens back in the 1960s. Obviously. quote:As an unintended consequence several importers of light trucks have circumvented the tariff via loopholes—including Ford (ostensibly a company the tax was designed to protect), which imports the Transit Connect light trucks as "passenger vehicles" to the U.S. from Turkey and immediately strips and shreds portions of their interiors, such as installed rear seats, in a warehouse outside Baltimore.[1] Holy poo poo. I love the idea that someone, somewhere probably got a bonus for coming up with that idea. (Why shred the seats? Why not send them back and bolt them into the next Transit coming over?) Not seeing any cider or jazz mags, useless. (I've just remembered that cider and (probably) jazz mags mean something different over there. Don't care.)
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goddamnedtwisto posted:(Why shred the seats? Why not send them back and bolt them into the next Transit coming over?) Probably cheaper to shred them and sell what they can as scrap than to ship them back to Turkey. Anyway, I'd imagine that these seats are designed to be the cheapest possible things that qualify for the name, made out of stamped aluminum foil and whatever that terrible cloth is that they use in airline pillows.
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Hands down most comfortable looking guy at the last td was the CR that came with a 90s pasenger van with the seats removed. Had like a 2 ft thick air mattress in the back at night, and carried his track bike and pit bike + tools and stands no problem.
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goddamnedtwisto posted:Room for a bike or two, all your tools, couple of sleeping bags, and all the bottles of cider and jazz mags a man could ever need. 
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M42 posted:Hands down most comfortable looking guy at the last td was the CR that came with a 90s pasenger van with the seats removed. Had like a 2 ft thick air mattress in the back at night, and carried his track bike and pit bike + tools and stands no problem. I had a WINEBERRY (plum purple) 94 Dodge Caravan high top with gold pinstripes. When you removed the seats you had a perfect place to hook your ratchet straps. It also had a TV and VCR  I was really cool in high school.
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M42 posted:Hands down most comfortable looking guy at the last td was the CR that came with a 90s pasenger van with the seats removed. Had like a 2 ft thick air mattress in the back at night, and carried his track bike and pit bike + tools and stands no problem. Recently I've been looking at high top cargo vans with the idea I could put a bed in over the bikes with the use of a few frame pieces and plywood. Anyone seen something like this? Is the high roof actually high enough to fit a bed over a motorcycle? Otherwise I was looking at the long models and thinking of putting the bed in front of a bike or two that are sideways. Great long distance vehicle and not taking anything out when we sleep is what I'm shooting for.
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Cargo Van + air mattress is pretty hard to beat. Could be had for under a grand. Unlike a Toyota light truck, that even when perforated with rust, sells for thousands of dollars for some retarded reason. For every light truck, there is a full size truck/van for 1/3 of the price out there. They're only 1-2' longer and do everything better.
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goddamnedtwisto posted:If your country didn't have that weird Brokeback Mountain "I am a rugged masculine manly man and therefore need a pickup truck" thing going on you'd be able to pick these things up for about the price of a new set of tyres: Not sure I agree, a 2wd 4-banger Ranger is about as emasculating a truck as you can drive. Mine's worth about a 'Stich, gets better gas mileage than my car. In fact I am pretty over my car and might go back to daily driving the truck. You can get an older Econoline or Ram commercial van for peanuts too if you're looking for a cargo van around here. I live in Kashyyyk too so I need to be able to haul wookie treehouses to the dump after wind storms and it's pretty practical to throw all that in the box and net them down. clutchpuck fucked around with this message at 20:22 on Dec 9, 2015 |
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El Jebus posted:Recently I've been looking at high top cargo vans with the idea I could put a bed in over the bikes with the use of a few frame pieces and plywood. Anyone seen something like this? Is the high roof actually high enough to fit a bed over a motorcycle? Otherwise I was looking at the long models and thinking of putting the bed in front of a bike or two that are sideways. Great long distance vehicle and not taking anything out when we sleep is what I'm shooting for.  
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Alternatively, hammocks. Not even joking, some camping places even sell hammocks with those flat discs that go into the keyhole-shaped mounting points you get in vans (man my jargon game is off today)
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El Jebus posted:Recently I've been looking at high top cargo vans with the idea I could put a bed in over the bikes with the use of a few frame pieces and plywood. Anyone seen something like this? There are dedicated campers that look like modified transit vans where the top section lifts up on struts when parked to give you enough room to bunk. Like this thing, though I'm certain I've seen ones that were actual transits: 
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Cyclecruza, a motovlogger on youtube has an insanely awesome stealth cargo van setup and it fits his bike: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUeTRfTBQgY He's got a whole build series on it, really awesome stuff.
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Renaissance Robot posted:There are dedicated campers that look like modified transit vans where the top section lifts up on struts when parked to give you enough room to bunk. High-top transits are already considerably taller than that - that sort of accordion top is pretty common on smaller van-based campers though.
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goddamnedtwisto posted:Alternatively, hammocks. Not even joking, some camping places even sell hammocks with those flat discs that go into the keyhole-shaped mounting points you get in vans (man my jargon game is off today) Yeah hammocks seems to be the way to go.
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God drat I hate you guys. http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/cto/5279893661.html
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Voltage posted:Cyclecruza, a motovlogger on youtube has an insanely awesome stealth cargo van setup and it fits his bike: Yeah, that setup is cool. Hadn't seen that before and is giving me lots of ideas. One van idea I saw recently was from Craigslist and it seemed pretty sweet. Room for bikes and room for a bed/couch, but unlike the video above, my wife can still join me. Bed doesn't have to be a king but we both need to fit. http://losangeles.craigslist.org/lac/cto/5330775903.html I don't need to bring two motorcycles and a bicycle so I'm thinking if it goes in and then is parked sideways, I can have a pretty comfortable spot in the middle. goddamnedtwisto posted:Alternatively, hammocks. Not even joking, some camping places even sell hammocks with those flat discs that go into the keyhole-shaped mounting points you get in vans (man my jargon game is off today) If it was just me, I'd be down with the hammock. Used my brothers camping hammock a few times and loved it. Being able to raise and lower the bed would be awesome, especially if there was room for the bike to be sideways in the rear.
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My dad did this. he bought a Mercedes/Dodge Sprinter van and put an extra row of passenger seats up front and then a storage shelf in the back, still has room for 2 bikes too. Turbo Diesel with 4x4 wheels is pretty fun to get to the dirt 
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I have a standard V6 1500 Express and even with tool shelves, we've transported 2 motorcycles, 6 bicycles and enough camping gear for 6 people. Also a 32" TV, solar panels and a generator. Enough space inside for a full size air mattress, but we slept in tents because camping. Vans rock
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Is $4000 a fair price for a 2013 CBR500R that is in mint condition with 12000 miles? Maintenance looks like it was done well, but I haven't seen the bike in person yet. Edit: I misread, it's 16000 miles and I forgot to add that the bike has ABS. Ideal Paradigm fucked around with this message at 00:34 on Dec 12, 2015 |
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Pay attention to wear items and big service intervals. Tires may or may not last 12k but you probably don't want them much longer past that, the chain is probably on the last 1/4 of its life too.
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Can you even find one for less than that, regardless of condition?
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Sealed the deal on the 2014 CRF250L, 4200 otd and got them to throw in some Cycra Probend handguards~ Picking it up on the 22nd. A nice Christmas present! 
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Tactical Lesbian posted:Sealed the deal on the 2014 CRF250L, 4200 otd and got them to throw in some Cycra Probend handguards~ Nice 
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Tactical Lesbian posted:Sealed the deal on the 2014 CRF250L, 4200 otd and got them to throw in some Cycra Probend handguards~ http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=2895016
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I'm looking for a midsized adventure bike, something highway capable, dualsport-touring that I can ride a few hours or days out to trails and forest service roads and ORV areas. Weekend and maybe occasional weeklong motocamping trips around WA and the PNW, building up to backcountry discovery routes, maybe an alaska trip. Tierra Del Fuego and Magadan are probably a bit outside my reasonable range expectation at this point. Not wanting a glass-jawed 600 lb all-electronic SUV on 2 wheels for accountants. My daily driver is a ninja 650 with near 30k mi so I have commuting and sport touring trips taken care of, no plans to get rid of it. I'm 5'10, 175, 30" inseam, FWIW. Any bike purchased under this category MAY be subjected to consideration for reversible supermoto conversion because supermoto. I have not done offroad riding (successfully), just street up to now. Right now the bike that seems to fit the bill the best is the DR650. It's dead simple, well documented, apparently really reliable once you take care of the *just suzuki things* that will explode the engine. I sat on one (that had the suzuki lowered seat) and was amazed at how well the bike fit. It can probably be repaired by banging rocks on stuff that isnt working. One problem is that its apparently the best bike in the world and I don't know if i'm man enough. I had been cross-shopping with the KTM 690 but that costs $rape, may not actually exist anywhere outside epic videos, and I'm concerned about the amount of power for a new dual sport rider. The Husqy 701 isn't out yet and MAY show up around April, but they're saying that's coming as a supermoto (not that there's ANYTHING wrong with that) and possibly not the enduro that's been seen in video. A friend (with a KLR, who suggested the DR) is convinced a 250 wouldnt have the power for long highway portions, and also be a concern in the mountains. DRZ felt too tall and doesnt seem to do anything the DR doesn't. DRZ SM felt just about right like the DR. KLR weighs like a million pounds. BMWs just break down. Other than being a suzuki, with exactly zero technological elements to it (like the KTM's ABS, EFI, ride modes, 6th gear, etc) is there any reason not to get a DR? It would need some $$ thrown at it for real ADV stuff but other than the lack of anything resembling wind protection it certainly looks capable of weekend trips and local powerline roads off the showroom floor while I develop dirt riding skills while hopefully avoiding more MRIs.
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My spouse is a midget (5'4") and rides a dr650. He'll take it almost anywhere, and where he won't I'll do it for him. Spend a little money on the suspension, especially the rear shock. Front forks have a collar inside you can flip to drop the bike's ride height, the shock has a second hole to put the pivot into to drop it as well. TM40 carb really wakes em up. Having owned a KLR, don't do that. also BMW F650s are pretty drat reliable, so don't rule those out. (they're also injected) as for DR/DRZ? If you want to do tight technical stuff, DRZ. if you prefer superslab and double track, DR. With skill you can take them both to the same places. E: Sometimes he'll do poo poo like this:  
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HAMAS HATE BOAT posted:I'm looking for a midsized adventure bike, something highway capable, dualsport-touring that I can ride a few hours or days out to trails and forest service roads and ORV areas. Have you looked into Koruthaiolos Husky Strada in the forsale thread? I have similar desires as you, and it looks Perfect In Every Way. Every way except being able to fit a 17 front and make it the sumo it always should have been, of course. Are KTM's other than the usual 690/1290 worth looking at for road use? There are so many models and I've heard that they are either not worth it and will break, or they are not worth it because they will murder you (500exc?!).
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clutchpuck posted:Pay attention to wear items and big service intervals. Tires may or may not last 12k but you probably don't want them much longer past that, the chain is probably on the last 1/4 of its life too. I know that valve clearance needs to be checked at 500 miles and at 16,000 miles, and then every 16,000 miles afterward. Seller claims there is 70% of tread left on the tires. I can always ask whether or not the tires are original or if he is on the second or third pair. Renaissance Robot posted:Can you even find one for less than that, regardless of condition? No, I can't find any CB500 (whether it's F, X, or R variation) for that price. Not only that, this bike has ABS as well.
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Seems a real good price so if it's still around after being up a couple days, I'd be concerned there's a reason for it being so low. Or it could be one of those crazy people who think 16,000 miles is EOL for a bike. I'd be wary. Reading back, it's got 16k mi and if that's the valve interval, anticipate spending dollars at a dealer for that. 16k is a reasonable expectation for chain life too. If it needs new tires, chain, and valve check, you could be looking at like $800ish in expenses.
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Coydog posted:Have you looked into Koruthaiolos Husky Strada in the forsale thread? I have similar desires as you, and it looks Perfect In Every Way. Every way except being able to fit a 17 front and make it the sumo it always should have been, of course. One of those huskies would probably be great if that version of the company was still around and there would be support for them, not sure about that anymore though. Also DC to Seattle on a unicorn the week of xmas is maybe a bit hardcore for a fly and ride. It is a mild december so far though. I looked at the plated KTM 350 and 500 enduros a while back, naturally thinking they might be smaller, lighter, easier to handle than a 690. But they're basically motocross bikes with plates ziptied on, and have the maintenance intervals to prove it. The 690 at least has periodic maintenance thats measured in thousands of miles and does not necessarily include replacing the piston, valves, valve springs, etc as consumables on a monthly basis, which is nice. I did read a review that the 690 enduro had a strange close ratio gearbox that made it a bit awkward to ride. I'll probably have suspension parts on order as soon as i get the bike. Unfortunately finding a used one seems difficult unless i want to pay +4k for an 8-13 yr old brick that MSRPs new for 6 (plus a larger gas tank and a bash plate etc)
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