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Ronwayne posted:Note, certain individuals within the NCR need to be set on fire, but those are individuals, not the entire thing. I've been listening to this very good set of podcasts on the French Revolution and that sentiment is very much present there. You run through a set of people in control at various times each of whom have their idea of who needs to be set on fire. Then then each do so until nearly everyone of note is dead or has managed to flee half way around the world. On a slightly tangential note, I still find it crazy that Revolutionary France managed to run any kind of war effort when their policy towards their generals was to hand one their commission, guillotine them when they lose a battle and then move on to the next one until they managed to get a couple who didn't lose. [edit] I was triggered, that lovely music was especially triggering.
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The Vosgian Beast posted:There is not a thread on SA immune to the Fallout curse. At least it's the good one! Munin posted:I've been listening to this very good set of podcasts on the French Revolution and that sentiment is very much present there. What is the podcast?
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HBomberGuy delivers. At 24 minutes it's about twice as long as it should be (and apparently there's a 40 minute version for Patreon supporters), not as tight as his classics The Sarkeesian Effect: A Measured Response or The Sarkeeskian Effect: IN CRISIS!, but anyone who's read this thread and has nothing better to do will enjoy it.
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Munin posted:I've been listening to this very good set of podcasts on the French Revolution and that sentiment is very much present there. You run through a set of people in control at various times each of whom have their idea of who needs to be set on fire. Then then each do so until nearly everyone of note is dead or has managed to flee half way around the world. Well, as opposed to just going "no, we need to actually just murder society as a whole", Pol Pot style.
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Ronwayne posted:Well, as opposed to just going "no, we need to actually just murder society as a whole", Pol Pot style. Well, if Robespierre hadn't been ousted, I'm sure he would have gleefully exterminated the French to save France.
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:What is the podcast? It's called, appropriately enough, Revolutions: http://www.revolutionspodcast.com/ He just finished the section on the French Revolution and just kicked off his stuff on the Haitian revolution. Other aside, weep at the Republic of Virtue.
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Deport The Irish posted:Well, if Robespierre hadn't been ousted, I'm sure he would have gleefully exterminated the French to save France. Even well before Robespierre got going properly you had already had about three or four rounds of previous stout revolutionaries who ended up on the wrong side of a political fight getting guillotined. Often the very people who orchestrated the removal of the previous heads getting chopped a few months/weeks later. Robespierre being of course an example of that. The other thing to note is that the Great Terror had a pre-Robespierre run-up. That run-up also had the biggest atrocities occurring in France in general as opposed to focused in Paris. There were brutal reprisals against several cities which didn't want to get with the program dictated by Paris and that then also led to more general purges of people seen to foment that kind of federalism. Finally, they didn't quite get to Pol Pot levels in part because dear old Robespierre did get stopped in his tracks. Not having really read up about Pol Pot I don't know why no-one ended up stepping in there. [edit] Any of the NRxers worship Napoleon btw or is he too dangerously French for them? vv I have. It is indeed good stuff as well. Munin has a new favorite as of 00:46 on Dec 12, 2015 |
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Munin posted:It's called, appropriately enough, Revolutions: Also you should listen to the completed History Of Rome podcast from the same guy. You will learn things and enjoy it. To bring it back on topic, every now and then he slams the kind of person this thread makes fun of by making it clear the world was not a better place during the historic times he talks about
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Munin posted:
But Napoleon wasn't even French in the first place! 
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Munin posted:Finally, they didn't quite get to Pol Pot levels in part because dear old Robespierre did get stopped in his tracks. Not having really read up about Pol Pot I don't know why no-one ended up stepping in there.
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Klaus88 posted:But Napoleon wasn't even French in the first place! Next you'll tell me that these towelheads aren't Muslim! 
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Munin posted:Next you'll tell me that these towelheads aren't Muslim! Actually, Hitler was a socialist
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^ We need to find a way to lock Moldbug and Goldberg into a war of words. Ideally words that no one else would ever read.
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Peztopiary posted:^ We need to find a way to lock Moldbug and Goldberg into a war of words. Ideally words that no one else would ever read.
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Sorry, Jonah Goldberg, he's one of the NY Times token conservatives and he wrote a charming book called Liberal Fascism. Though honestly, Bill Goldberg vs the entire DE would be pretty great.
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Nessus posted:I thought the north Vietnamese army finally did. Basically, but Western support and intervention kept him from an internal ousting. The thought process was basically, "Support him til he helps us kick the rear end of the North Vietnamese, then maybe do something to stop him, if we feel like it", except it failed in part one.
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What's your source for Western support of the Khmer Rogue, especially pre-1978?
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Munin posted:It's called, appropriately enough, Revolutions: Seconding this recommendation. He easily gives one of the most objective (and entertaining) historical accounts of various revolutions.
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Neoreactionaries will occasionally compare people they dislike to Pol Pot, as he's the only fascist dictator they don't have some respect for.
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He's also the only one who didn't surround himself with a cadre of nerdy technocrats...gee, that sure is a coincidence... If Pol Pot had a bunch of Himmlers and Eichmanns helping him run the country the Dark Enlightenment would have loved him.
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Woolie Wool posted:He's also the only one who didn't surround himself with a cadre of nerdy technocrats...gee, that sure is a coincidence... One reason to like Pol Pot then. (Measured against about 1 to 3 million reasons to dislike him)
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Klaus88 posted:One reason to like Pol Pot then.
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Cingulate posted:Breaking news: Skeleton Warriors unmask as secret Pol Pot supporters https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3ZlpTp_dJA
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Funny: first recommendation for me following that one was https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHucMFKM44Q
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Woolie Wool posted:I will never, ever get over people using the word "cuckold" in the 21st century. It's like you're having dinner with your family and then suddenly a guy with a violin barges through the front door followed by a couple all decked out in brocaded coat and knee breeches for him and a corset and giant-rear end hoop skirt for her and they perform a Haydn minuet in your living room. Only they're also in blackface. CUCKED IN THE CUCK BY MY OWN CUCK "CUCKED IN THE CUCK BY MY OWN CUCK"
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I feel like the internet has forgotten that to be cuckolded, you must, by definition, have a relationship first.
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Cingulate posted:What's your source for Western support of the Khmer Rogue, especially pre-1978? Western support was all post-1978 as far as I know. The US and Britain continued to recognize them as the legitimate government of Cambodia for years after their ousting, insuring they kept their seat at the UN. In the 1980s they kind of got rolled together with the leftovers of the pre-Khmer Rouge monarchist opposition and may have received military aid with them, then were mostly pardoned after the ceasefire in the 1990s. Today's Cambodia is a constitutional monarchy led by the Marxist-Leninist Revolutionary party installed by the Vietnamese whose Prime Minister is an ex Khmer Rouge officer. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegations_of_United_States_support_for_the_Khmer_Rouge
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Not gonna fight about that, I just thought Fancy had implied the US were deliberately supporting the actual genocide (instead of accidentally/negligently supporting the genocide).
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Woolie Wool posted:He's also the only one who didn't surround himself with a cadre of nerdy technocrats...gee, that sure is a coincidence... Which is ironic because he wanted to take Cambodia back to an idealized 12th century version of itself, which is like 90% of what these jerks want. Unfortunately the other 10% which is to keep computers and the internet going strong in your medieval fiefdom is just as important
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Yes, and it was also Cambodia's storybook fantasy world, and that strain of atavistic romanticism hasn't marketed itself to white nerds as well as anime, wuxia, or Tolkien.
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The Vosgian Beast posted:I feel like the internet has forgotten that to be cuckolded, you must, by definition, have a relationship first. It makes sense when you realize that when they say "cuckold" they mean "race traitor."
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The other thread has just come to life again, and the ensuing discussion is a giggle. The guy knows nydbug, btw.
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I hope he doesn't actually post here. Reading his posts in that thread was painful enough.
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I know we joke a lot here, but it's really sad how in denial about Nydwracu's death a lot of DE types are.
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The Vosgian Beast posted:I know we joke a lot here, but it's really sad how in denial about Nydwracu's death a lot of DE types are. Elaborate?
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Antivehicular posted:Elaborate? He died by falling off the official Dark Enlightenment blimp. It was very tragic.
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The Vosgian Beast posted:He died by falling off the official Dark Enlightenment blimp. Rest in peace, to those who died.
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