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Feral_Shofixti posted:Has he at least stood up and banned those that Arson for Carson or (god forbid) think JEB! can fix it? Jeb supporters? I don't think those ever existed on Freep, since they blame him for Terri Shiavo's death... Freep is pretty hardcore these days and if you support Marco Rubio you're bound to get tarred and feathered.
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if you think about it its kinda amazing that american primaries are so different from presidential elections and yet both manage to be equally terrible at being democratic by disenfranchising half of the country
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Dec 13, 2015 18:50
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Freepers will fall in line to support whomever the nominee is once JimRob announces it.
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Subvisual Haze posted:Ready for more crazy Trump focus group footage from Frank Luntz? Thank you! This is fantastic.
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Dec 13, 2015 18:56
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babypolis posted:is it better to let it be decided by two lovely small states that no one gives a gently caress about otherwise? Illinois is not small, and we've produced better administrations than any other state. Hillary's from IL, after sll.
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Vegetable posted:Political campaigning must surely be a net boost to Iowa's and New Hampshire's economies. I wonder why don't more states jump on the bandwagon. because it's against the rules. its in the bylaws that everyone has to care about nh and iowa lmao.
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Dec 13, 2015 19:01
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So this is the second CNN debate that has hosed with its own debate criteria to let someone into the debate. Why do we let anyone other than FOX News host debates again?
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Why do they even care to keep Rand in? It's not like he brings much to the table...
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Logikv9 posted:Freepers will fall in line to support whomever the nominee is once JimRob announces it. With broken hearts they will weep in the voting booth as they pull the lever for Jeb!
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My Imaginary GF posted:Illinois is not small, and we've produced better administrations than any other state. yes thats what i mean. its really stupid and weird that small irrelevant states like iowa and nh have disproportionate influence because of some accident of history. having an actual important state like IL first would be infinitely better
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Dec 13, 2015 19:06
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So we have: Trump Cruz Carson Rubio JEB!!! Kasich CARLY Christie Rand Is this correct? Trump center, flanked by Cruz and Carson. Should be fun, hope JEB!!! is next to Marco.
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Dec 13, 2015 19:07
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ohgodwhat posted:Why do they even care to keep Rand in? It's not like he brings much to the table... He gives Trump a target to draw in ratings.
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Dec 13, 2015 19:09
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Michael Corleone posted:So we have: If they're going to be arranged in that order then Jeb will be across the stage from Rubio.
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Brannock posted:If they're going to be arranged in that order then Jeb will be across the stage from Rubio. e; http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/13/politics/republican-debate-gop-stage/index.html Businessman Donald Trump, the front-runner for the nomination, will again be center stage flanked by retired neurosurgeon Ben Carson on his right and Texas Sen. Ted Cruz on his left, CNN announced Sunday. The six remaining participants in the prime time contest will be Florida Sen. Marco Rubio, former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, businesswoman Carly Fiorina, New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie, Ohio Gov. John Kasich, and Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul.
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Libertarian people watch TV, that must be it.
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Vegetable posted:Libertarian people watch TV, that must be it. They do nothing else.
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babypolis posted:is it better to let it be decided by two lovely small states that no one gives a gently caress about otherwise? New Hampsire has a law on the books that if another state schedules their primary to go first, NH's will automatically jump back by a week (or whatever it takes) to be the first again. I really want to see another state pass the same law. It'd be cool to see their primaries leapfrog themselves back to the instant of the Big Bang.
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I find it hilarious that Rand is demanding affirmative action from the media.
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how long are they going to keep up these clown-car debates, mother of god
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Peel posted:how long are they going to keep up these clown-car debates, mother of god Until the money stops flowing
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So is Graham the only one left out?
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Lindsey Graham's off to polish off a bottle of Jack Daniels in one sitting. His one chance to clown on Rand, down the toilet. Lindsey Graham's depressingly miserable life just got a little sadder.  Kiddie table's Huck, Santorum, Graham, and, sigh, Pataki.
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the iowa gop caucus was supposedly 99% white in 2012, hilariously http://iowacaucusproject.org/2015/08/what-types-of-people-participate-in-the-iowa-caucuses/ more than 10% of iowa nowadays is nonwhite, it's only the sixth-whitest state in the nation now https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-Hispanic_whites i wonder what would happen if maine, vermont, west virginia, or north dakota tried to negotiate an early primary. i bet the conversation would be different than if a diverse state went for it
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Louisgod posted:So is Graham the only one left out? Huckabee I guess. unless he dropped out and I just didnt hear about it.
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oystertoadfish posted:the iowa gop caucus was supposedly 99% white in 2012, hilariously http://iowacaucusproject.org/2015/08/what-types-of-people-participate-in-the-iowa-caucuses/ i would love if the first major test for a presidential candidate was how much they love lobsters or maple syrup.
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oystertoadfish posted:the iowa gop caucus was supposedly 99% white in 2012, hilariously http://iowacaucusproject.org/2015/08/what-types-of-people-participate-in-the-iowa-caucuses/ North Dakota is one of three states on the GOP side that's trying to just...not vote...and allocate its delegates through a state convention (Wyoming and Colorado are the others).
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Both Graham and Pataki are returning after being excluded from the last debate, so you could argue that they have momentum now.
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Oh hey, the debate is on the 15th? I'm watching this for sure, it's definitely! going to be when Jeb unleashes Chang.
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that sounds like the traditional caucus, where the 'straw poll' or 'presidential preference vote' or whatever was just a meaningless side show and delegates 'pledged' themselves by saying who they wanted to vote for, so it makes some internal logical sense. whereas iowa just sold out, man, so they could still be the first edit: it would be great if west virginia was the first primary. the party that promised to dump the most strip-mine tailings into the drinking water would win the vote
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Peel posted:how long are they going to keep up these clown-car debates, mother of god I think this is a side effect of everyone raging against "the establishment". The RNC basically has no control of the process anymore. I'm sure they'd be all too happy to up the minimal requirements to winnow down the field and let support consolidate behind a few non-Trump candidates, but they're completely toothless at this point. And so Christie/Carly/Rand can keep bitching everytime their support slips to a minimal level and still get a ticket to the big stage. Chaos reigns and Trump laughs.
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Christie next to Paul! I expect them to shove their hands in each others' faces as they argue about the Fourth Amendment.
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Find the most diverse state in the nation and make that the first primary, probably CA or NY. Let Iowa keep their caucus.
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Michael Corleone posted:Find the most diverse state in the nation and make that the first primary, probably CA or NY. Let Iowa keep their caucus. Find the state which produces the most corn and make that the first primary state.
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Michael Corleone posted:Find the most diverse state in the nation and make that the first primary, probably CA or NY. Let Iowa keep their caucus. Republican primary. Even if you have a diverse state go early, how diverse is the GOP primary electorate going to be?
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Alternative: Go from least populated state to most populated state, to really kinda drum up the intensity as the race goes on. OR, go in ABC order, Alabama doesn't get enough love!
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nevada is a very early state and is quite diverse but nobody cares about them for some reason also south carolina is extremely nonwhite but after you split into parties you've basically got an unrepresentatively white gop primary and an unrepresentatively black democratic primary edit: make dc's primary the first. the gop establishment would probably literally have a majority in the gop primary just with their personal votes and the votes of the staffers who they can fire if they vote the wrong way
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oystertoadfish posted:nevada is a very early state and is quite diverse but nobody cares about them for some reason because they are crazy and would caucus for LaRouche if given the chance
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an actual interesting state to go early would be texas california too really. the california gop and texas democrats would have fun being relevant in something besides fundraising gently caress it run american samoa's primary first it'd be a fun tradition like dixville notch or whatever that poo poo is the whole conversation is silliness oystertoadfish fucked around with this message at 19:46 on Dec 13, 2015 |
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Peel posted:how long are they going to keep up these clown-car debates, mother of god After January, be my guest.
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